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  • #28128
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    kngojc
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     So if Bismack Biyombo is as young as a recent thread says he is (17 or 18), and the Timberwolves slide to the 3 or 4 spot in the draft, do you think it would be smart for them to take Biyombo and package him with Rubio and send him to the Clippers for their original 2012 pick plus the Clippers pick? Ideas for a trade on draft day or others?

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  • #523161
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    OhCanada-
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    What is wrong with you boy? Biyambo isnt going Top 3.

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  • #523164
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    M-DYMES
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    I don’t get u freakin people at times I swear.  There is a thread damn near DIRECTLY below this that is all about damn near exactly what you are talking about.  Y do you have to go and start a whole new thread about the same damn thing!  Its not like u make commissions off a thread, unless u r like McDunkin or someone.  Put down the pride and just write in someone elses thread.  damn.

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    M-DYMES
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    funny gifs

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  • #523166
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    Memphis Madness
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    He is listed at 6’9 in shoes.  I thought that he was a little taller than that.

    If he is really closer to 18 or 19 then I think he is a top 5 or 6 pick, especially if the team already has a good point guard and some good forwards.

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  • #523168
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    OhCanada-
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    Come one do we really need another detailed essay from BTPH telling you why he is not worth a lotto pick.

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  • #523167
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    ilike.panochas
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    Derrick Favors went #3 overall, and this guy Brismack is probably just as raw as Favors w/ longer wingspan. I didn’t like Favors being chosen top 3 at that time, and I wouldnt take Brismack in top 3 either.

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  • #523170
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    OhCanada-
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    Biyambo is so much more raw on BOTH ENDS. I know I made a statement saying something like well if people are so high on Favors why not be high on Biyambo a while ago. Although its night and day… Biyambo’s potential is dwarfed by Favors…

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  • #523173
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    Tha_Prince
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    I go away for a week and peoples perceptions on here of Biyombo goes from late 1st rounder now to top 3?

    You guys are crazy! Lol

    I agree he’s a high energy guy who’ll rebound and block some shots for you but there is no ways he’s going that high. If your beloved Kahn picks him at #3 or 4 he’s up their with George Bush.

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  • #523175
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    M-DYMES
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    And Minnesota trading Rubio and the 3/4 slot (who you say is Biyambo smh), for their original 1st rnder next year is stupid.  Im sorry Im being so harsh but come on.  The Wolves always suck in the lotto, they would have to again struggle in another season (and if they did develop that pick would drop so you are saying they should have no faith in their own team).  Plus Rubio was a high lotto pick and everyone raved over his potential, some claiming the next Pete Maravich (smh).  To trade all that just for your original pick which you dont even know the value of is something that shouldnt even be contemplated. 

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  • #523178
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    I could not see an undersized guy going too high in a draft just for those reasons, the needs a lot of development and can a team coming off a 25 win or less season risk taking such a gamble?

    The only way I could see him going in the top 10 would be if Cleveland get the top pick with their own draft pick and take a safe choice and just take a flyer with the pick from the Clippers on Biyombo further down the lottery at around 8th.

    The guy might be a good prospect but what is the best case scenario, he’s at least a couple of years away from being able to contribute?

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  • #523203
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    kngojc
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     I agree with all you guys. I don’t think Biyambo deserves a top 3 or even a top 5 pick. If he impresses some NBA scouts during workouts however, that thought could change. I’m not a big fan or supporter. But if Biyambo is picked by the Wolves, you know he will develop and you know he will get better and realize some of his potential in a short time. The Wolves have given Darko a huge contract and big minutes and he isn’t the best of players. Anthony Randolph is even given starter minutes sometimes and on most any other team, he is a bench warmer. Biyambo on any other team doesn’t get better than a 6th man role for multiple years but on the Wolves, he’d get starter minutes in two years. Now I’m just saying, the Wolves as they are, are not winning 20-30 games next season, even if everyone on their team develops more during the summer. This draft, as weak as it is isn’t going to put them up any more wins than they already would have. The addition of Kyrie wouldn’t do them that much good if they are so entranced by Rubio’s passing ability. M-Dymes, I agree that the comparisons to Maravich are absolutely absurd. All I’m saying is, if the Wolves drafted Biyombo if they slide to the 3 or 4 slot in the draft (which is likely), why not take a chance on a high risk, high reward player like Biyombo? If he draws interest from other teams, we can see if we can deal him or package him with Rubio to get better positioning for next year. I am not the one making these comparisons because I don’t see this in him but people have said he could be like Dwight Howard. Sure he could be like him, but he could also be like Sene. If he turns into a great player, sweet, franchise center to pair with Love. But if he doesn’t look all that good I don’t see why this would be such a mistake pick because at the 3 or 4 spot, who else is there to pick, Kanter? Knight? Jonas? Hell, even this site has Jimmer getting picked in the top 10. This draft is weak and stretching to get someone with loads of potential and the physical attributes that could bring some defense to this squad, why not? This is all assuming Kyrie, Williams, and (probably) Kanter are all picked ahead of them. Beyond them, who does this draft hold that is worth using a high pick and a big contract for? I just think that if the Wolves can show some confidence in their drafting abilities and show that Biyombo could be a good pick for them, they could send him to the Clippers, who would love a show-time point guard in Rubio that could set up Blake for even more highlights and also a low post defensive presence that can also dunk the hell out of the ball, for a great return on next year.

    This way we could give Kahn and Rambis one more year together to see if they can change anything on this team (I honestly don’t see it but maybe) and if they can, stick with them. However if they can’t, there could be a big shake up in the entirety of the front office to start fresh moving forward with two possible lotto picks going into the DEEP 2012 draft and moving forward with Love, Beasely, and Wes Johnson being the focus points. This could be a unique opportunity for them to make a move to progress this team. Giving them another year where they won’t have to worry about wins gives them another chance to all develop, especially the guys like Johnson, Flynn, Randolph, Love, and Beasely. Because if they can go into the 2012 draft with their guys looking ready to take the next season seriously and also having added two players that could make a definite impact, I think they could make a move out of the basement of this league and hopefully prove to Kevin Love to stay in Minnesota for another couple years with a chance to get into the playoffs.

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  • #523228
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    Fritz
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    IF he even is this young, Then dont worry kngojc, the Timberwolves will be bad enough to have a shot at him next year. You have to be 19 to play in this league, and if he is that young, hes too young to be drafted this year anyways. So I dont know why people keep talking about his draft stock due to his age. If he is that young yes his potential improves and could be a higher draft pick in the future, but he cant be drafted in this draft so who cares can we let this guy show us more than just one game vs our American All-star team before we rate this guy so highly? All of this talk for a guy who was impressive in one game vs a team that doesnt normally play together. Its not a big deal. Those American kids are used to playing high schoolers, they have never faced someone with NBA size and athleticism. I think people are making too big of a deal out of this guy who has absolutely no offensive game.

    Sure, he oozes defensive potential. But this guy hasnt proven anything to me yet, lets see him play some more before we start saying hes a top 5 pick.

    This guy just screams Saer Sene to me. (if thats how its spelled) I just dont think players who can only play defense are worthy of a top 5 pick. Hes so raw still I think it would be a mistake for a team to reach for this guy in the top ten unless he’s got more to his game than we have seen. 

    If you really want your team to reach for this guy go ahead, to me hes closer to the next Thabeet rather than closer to the next great defensive big man.

     

     

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  • #523232
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    OhCanada-
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    Ill give everybody the benefit of doubt and sweet satisfaction in agreeing he could be a Top 10 draft pick. There is not much talent in this draft, and if a team like Toronto who desperatly needs a C was picking with Kanter gone, Valanciunas, etc all gone why not take a gamble right. He is a good defensive player. He is big and strong and has quiote possibly the best wingspan ever. Also he is just 18-19. But not Top 5.

     

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