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I forgot about the Wiz too...but they're right behind the Knicks

They have Arenas acting a little enigmatic and that can hurt them through the season...I think they have arough year, get another high lottery pick and bounce back and become a playoff team next year...If Gilbert wasn't a headcase they'd be a sleeper team to make the Playoffs too...

Now As far as Hyping up the Sixers and Trashing the Knicks...This thread about Bill Simmons was Hyping the Knicks up and thought it was a good time to talk about something a lot better...The Sixers...

Now Speights is not Amare but he can score and rebound at will on most nights and if was giving the starting spot would have huge games against good to great competition...He's put up big numbers against Howard and Gasol in his young career...

My point is he's better than Randolph all day, every day...Randolph is a al hype and potential...at least Speights as found a role and has actually looked good when put in big games...

Turner will not become a 6th man canidate this year stupid( I said next year he'd easily become a 6th man...He can get 15-5-5 off the bench next season...he's going to get around 12-4 and 4 this year off the bench...

The Sixers have the talent to be a Playoff team easily, but with their youth and inexperience in certain spots they may just fall short...I love the idea of having a real bad season this and I'm a huge fan and competitor...i just want that 1 player we might need to get wayyyyy over the top...Perry Jones,Jared Sullinger and Enes Kanter could be those type of players that could help do it...

But we will be in the Mix and are better than the Knicks...I just left a detailed reason why...

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Dude I did what???

" FYI...The Nuggets would rather trade him to The Sixers...The Knicks have garbage to offer in a trade...Melo is just to blind to see their team is Garbage too...minus Amare and maybe Felton and Gallo ( who are average starters at best people) LMFAO....."

"You got that from me because I made a post about it."

What the hell are you talking about...I think you just confirmed what I been saying...New York has garbage to offer teams in a trade...and their roster isn't good at all...Amare is the only player people respect and he could get injured at any point of the season...why didn't The Suns offer him a Max Deal??? because they had first hand information that said he's on the way to a bad injury and it wasn't worth it to give a walking Injury a 6 year/100 million Dollar Deal...Good Move New york...You got the Knees no Team wanted to trade for...

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Scare Crow Vs NY fans

Scare Crow 1....NY Fans 0

You guys suck and can't argue with me about basketball...Your Team has the highest Fan base ever...Mosgov is your savior...Go pray for Melo and CP3...Maybe GOD is a Knicks Fan too...

I'm still waiting for a Rebuttal...even if It was Biased and full of Shyt....at least you fought back...

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The Bulls, Heat, Celtics,

The Bulls, Heat, Celtics, Bucks Hawks, And magic are clearly better than the Knicks.

Simmons was quick to mention the bright spots, but left out the negatives, their the worst rebounding team in the league, they play pretty bad defense, and they dont have a legit second guy, If you guys cant keep Luke Harngody off the boards have fun with Dwight Howard, if that ends up as a 2 v 7 matchup they would get swept easily.

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It's Holiday Season!!!!

The Sixers best lineup thus far has actually been Thad at 4 and Brand at 5 with M16 providing that scoring punch off the bench.

I hate when people say Brand cant play center because he actually does very well at Center. Brand got a 7'6 wingspan and a 9'2 standing reach giving him more then enough length to play with any big.

Speights needs more minutes tho the dude is a scoring machine what Eddie Jordan was thinking last year nobody knows but how he handled Speights was a disgrace and one of the more obvious reasons he lost his job.

Speights should of been a 12 and 7 guy last year at the least but didn't get any playing time. Per 40 minutes he was a 21 and 10 guy. Speights got gobs of potential as a scorer. Him and Hawes are the reason the Sixers really need a defensive big just like Sammy D but then again most teams need another Defensive big.

Trade Idea: Reunite Iggy with Durant in OKC. They played great together in the Olympics and Iggy provides that elite defense they need on the wing to compete in the West. Him and Thabo make OKC one of the scariest perimeter defense teams in the league.

OKC gets Iggy

Sixers get Serge Ibaka and Mo Petes expiring contract, and a first round pick.

OKC steals Iggy off us for a pick and Ibaka pretty much. The Thunder have the cap room to eat the difference in contracts too so it gives the Sixers cap relief. And also a rim protector who could develop into an elite defensive big man.

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What the hell are you talking

What the hell are you talking about...I think you just confirmed what I been saying...New York has garbage to offer teams in a trade...and their roster isn't good at all...Amare is the only player people respect and he could get injured at any point of the season...why didn't The Suns offer him a Max Deal??? because they had first hand information that said he's on the way to a bad injury and it wasn't worth it to give a walking Injury a 6 year/100 million Dollar Deal...Good Move New york...You got the Knees no Team wanted to trade for...

I made a post about Melo to the Sixers like 3 weeks ago.

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The Heat, Celtics, Magic,

The Heat, Celtics, Magic, Bulls, Hawks, Bucks, Bobcats are clearly better then the Knicks. The Sixers, Nets, Wizards, and the Pacers are all arguably better. But thats why we play the season nobody knows till the end of the show.

The Knicks play no defense that is going to kill them this year. They will be exciting and fun to watch, score a lot of points, but won't win any close games before they can't clamp down when need be. Nobody they acquired in the offseason is a great defender with the exception of Ronny "Number One Towel Waver" Turiaf.

They can't beat the Bobcats cuz LB will slow the ball down and make each possession more valuable and with the way the Knicks take bad shots that will kill them in a slowed down game pace.

The Knick actually match up well with Hawks tho.

The Bucks are another team that play a slowed down pace a long with Brandon "I Can't Believe You Drafted Jordan Hill Over Me" Jennings coming to reap his revenge on NYC.

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No seriously tho on paper the

No seriously tho on paper the Knicks arent very good at all. They got Amare and nothing else besides Gallo and possibly Felton who so far looks clueless in D'Antonis offense.

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Gallinari is much better than

Gallinari is much better than Thad.

Chandler is a good comparison to Thad but Chandler is better too.

The sixers have been more effective without Brand anyways.

Amare is head and shoulders above anyone on the sixers team.

If you think that Holiday and Lou are clearly better than Felton, Douglas than you're insane.

Holiday isnt any more proven than Douglas and Williams is nothing but a poor man's Nate with less athleticism.

The Knicks and Knicks fans will get the last laugh when we look at their records after this season.

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What dude Chandler is better

What dude Chandler is better then Thad Young really? By what comparison? Thad is younger, more athletic, bigger, has more potential, and heres the kicker, has better numbers...So what do you mean? And Gallo don't play enough defense to be considered better then Thad plus Thad is a more efficient scorer.

Jrue Holiday has already proven himself to be one of the best on ball defenders in the league. And Ray Felton is averaging 8 points a game in the preseason shooting 33%. Spoiler Alert: Jrue Holiday had a triple double the other night and has way better numbers thus far.

Felton 8 ppg, 2.8 rebounds, 5.8 assists, 1.2 steals

Holiday 11 ppg, 7 rebounds, 5.2 assists, 1.8 steals.

And Lou Williams was averaging 17 points a game shooting 50% in 20 plus games last year before he broke his jaw and the Sixers signed back A.I.

He still ended the season averaging 14 points shooting 47%. And is waaaaaaaaay better then Toney Dougles. And here's the kicker...They're the same age.

Williams is averaging 12 points in the preseason shooting over 50%

Toney Dougless is averaging 6 ppg shooting 36%

Let's stop speaking from your heart because you're just embarrassing yourself and other respectable Knick fans by saying stupid things.

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What are u smoking to say the

What are u smoking to say the knicks are on the same level as the bucks?  That's laughable

I actually think the sixers have a better tram then the knicks because they rebound and play defense. Two things the knicks have shown in the preseason that they are bad at

The knicks will have trouble making that 8th seed. I thought they had a better chance before seeing how bad they are at rebounding and defense and that has nothing to do with chemistry 

Miami,hawks,bos,bucks,   Bulls, magic are locks. Bobcats were there last season and have two allstar talents so they have a much better chance then the other teams so that leaves sixers,knicks,wiz. If Gilbert is healthy they are better than the knicks. They rebound and play better defense. I think the knicks with Larry brown or Scott skiles are the 8th seed. But with the offensive minded d'antoni  on top of what ive seen I have big doubts 

It's only preseason but that excuse doesn't apply if you're defense is bad/bad rebounding. Thoses are the things you do on a old team,new team with new teammates or in the preseason because it's alot harder to rebound and play defense in the regular season. Only exceptions are teams that are proven or that are old(Boston)  or key players hurt (miami)who only use the regular season to keep in shape

I have to laugh at the person who said the pistons are better than the knicks because of tmac and Greg Monroe. That was funny

I hope some fans aren't putting all there eggs in the mello basket because we have seen how rumors can change in the nba(lebron to the knicks)

Teams aren't just gonna sit back and not go for mello. I'm baffled at why the knicks aren't doing everything possible to get mello( everyone not named  Amare should be avalible) because if the knicks get mello I'm willing to bet they will get another star(cp3,dwill,) within the next year

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I thought the Knicks would be

I thought the Knicks would be better too going into the preseason but besides they're lack of rebounding and defense what is most striking is the fact that they're new PG Ray Felton seems lost in the sauce. So far he don't look comfortable at all running D'Antoni's offense. Hopefully that changes cuz i kinda wanted to see Felton do good but so far he looks extremely average.

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RIGHT NOW, Jrue Holiday is

RIGHT NOW, Jrue Holiday is not better then Raymond Felton.

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I thought the same thing

I thought the same thing going into the preseason

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Right Holiday is better than every one on the Knicks not named

Amare STATamire...The Knicks would trade Felton and Chandler for Holiday RIGHT NOW...That's how I know your a homer...Holiday's best is ahead of him and this may be Felton's last shot to prove he's a starter...

Thad is better than Gallo

Speights is better than Randolph

Iguadola is Better Than Amare ( Ask The Suns ) He's a way better defender/passer/slasher/team mate...All Amare can do Is put the ball in the hoop...He's such a Stat whore it's his nickname...

Holiday is again better than Felton

Williams is better Douglas...

Turner is better than Chandler

Meeks is better Walker...

Hawes and Battie are better than Mosgov and Turiaf

Brand is better than Curry( Both Big have contracts but Brand is at least a Warrior who'll play out his deal un like Curry...Curry is actually the best Thing you guys have because he expires....We'll have to wait Brand's deal out...)

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Right Holiday is better than every one on the Knicks not named

Amare STATamire...The Knicks would trade Felton and Chandler for Holiday RIGHT NOW...That's how I know your a homer...Holiday's best is ahead of him and this may be Felton's last shot to prove he's a starter...

Thad is better than Gallo

Speights is better than Randolph

Iguadola is Better Than Amare ( Ask The Suns ) He's a way better defender/passer/slasher/team mate...All Amare can do Is put the ball in the hoop...He's such a Stat whore it's his nickname...

Holiday is again better than Felton

Williams is better Douglas...

Turner is better than Chandler

Meeks is better Walker...

Hawes and Battie are better than Mosgov and Turiaf

Brand is better than Curry( Both Big have contracts but Brand is at least a Warrior who'll play out his deal un like Curry...Curry is actually the best Thing you guys have because he expires....We'll have to wait Brand's deal out...)

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Iguodala is not better than

Iguodala is not better than Amare, and it's not close. I agree Speights is better then Randolph, but don't go overboard with it. I think the 76ers are they better team by far, but Amare is easily the best player on the two teams.

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What does Amare do that makes him a better player than Iggy

Think a every thing Iggy does...he stuffs the Stat sheet...he's one of the few 20/5/5 guys out there...he can also be called one of the best defenders in the NBA...He's an overall better player than Amare who alone helps his team by scoring...if you take away his scoring, what else does he do for a winning Team???

Most coaches and GM's would want Iguadola...The Suns were claming to make a deal last year for Iggy and Amare...The Sixers Said NO!!! Get your facts straight...The guy who said Gallo is way better than Thad is high as Shyt...Thad has already proven he can get 15 ppg as a 4th or 5th option starter/6th man...He's wayyyyy better than Gallo...who just began to prove he's not the Italian Mr. Glass

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You have lost alot of cred

You have lost alot of cred and have proved that you are a homer. Turner better than Chandler?  Holiday better than Felton? Meeks better than walker 

I'm in the market of someone proving they are better then someone before saying they are better. Other than you're homer opinion what regular season proof do u have of this?  You obviously don't know how to seperate you're love for  a team as far as judging players

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The scoring difference

The scoring difference between Amare and Iggy could be as high as 10 ppg, so that scoring accounts for a lot. He still gets 8-9 boards a night, and showed in the playoffs he can play defense when he has too. Iggy is a good passer, solid scorer, very good defender. I would rather have a 25 9 than a 20 5 5 because 20 5 5 are easier to get. Get my facts straight? Ask anyone here, ask any gm or coach who is better Amare or Iggy and they will all say Amare. C'mon man, stop with that nonsense. It's honestly not close at all.

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I rather have Amare but is

I rather have Amare but is 20-5-5 easier to get then 25-9?

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What makes those Players better???

Holiday is bigger,faster,stronger than Felton...He's far younger and has far more offensive versatility...

Yes he's going into his 2nd full season but already he has shown that he's top tier prospect and will out play Felton every game this season...We can bet on that...

Amare is a Scorer...Iguadola is a coaches Dream...The Lakers would love to put Iguadola next to Kobe...The Top 4 Teams in the East and West(minus Miami) would love to trade for Iguadola

The Celtics... yes they'd love love Iggy,Allen is aging and they could use another gold medalist...

The Magic...Huh Carter or Iggy ??? They'd pick Iggy...Carter is aging and has proved he's un clutch in the post season

The Bucks...Maggette/Redd or Iguadola...Skiles would die if they got Iggy...

The Hawks...Huh Marvin Williams and Mo Evan or Andre " I play 4 quarters" Iguadola...they'd want Iggy too...

Lakers...Iggy in the triangle with Kobe/Gasol and Odom...that's another three peat waiting to happen...

Thunder...you've already seen Wesbrook/Iggy/KD is gold...why wouldn't they want him in OKC...

Jazz..Sloane would have the best athlete he's ever had next to fellow Illinos guy Deron "Get me a Star or I'm out" Williams...That would be match made in heaven...

Spurs...The Spurs would to put Iggy in RJ's spot and become another Solid Championship Contender for the rest of Duncan's Career...

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I would rather have Holiday

I would rather have Holiday then Felton

Turner over Chandler

And Young over Gallo

The only one I would think is close is Young and Gallo but Gallo don't play enough defense and Young has winning intangibles.

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Most of those Teams had a chance to trade for or sign Amare

and guess what ...Most that could sign him past...Like The Thunder who had plenty of money to sign Amare and choose to keep their cash and start Jeff Greene and trade for Aldrich...That's the Facts... NY over paid for a pure scorer...He did come up big in the playoffs but that confirms he can coast through the regular season ...he can't do that and expect the Knicks to get into the playoffs...They need him to be an absolute monster for 82 games to have a shot at proving that again...Remember guys he had Nash breaking down defenses and passing in perfect stride for Amare all those playoff games...

I put money any GM that say's Amare over Iguadola is doing it from a Money Stand point...although I doubt either his as regonizable as they'd like to think...

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Mare is better than Iggy

@scarecrow

Amare is better than Iggy period. Like I can't see a debate in that even.

@stanford

Yes, 25 and 9 is harder, because no one in the NBA did it last year. LeBron, Evans, Kobe got 20 5 5 off the top of my head.

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Yeah Bosh was closest in the

Yeah Bosh was closest in the league to getting that, 24.something if i remember correctly.

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It's all going to be played out this season...But Mr 19134

Would you be up for this Trade Idea...Trading Iggy for a shot at Carmelo...Screw The Knicks...Thorn can get it done...

Andre Iguadola for Andre Kirilenko/Kosta Koufas/And 2011 1st rounder...The thinking behind the deal for both Teams being this...

Jazz Thinking...Of course dump AK's contract and save money by getting another stud Illinios Area Sg/Sf...They save money this year and basicly get the perfect Sloane guy and # 3 for Deron Williams and Al Jefferson...They also stay in the mix for a top 4 playoff spot and actually match up better with Iggy on Kobe in the Playoffs...They win as far as talent goes this year and next...They'll still need a Good scorer at the Sg/Sf spot...Hayward better pan out or they are going to be sick they didn't draft Xavier Henry...They only lose AK's huge expiring contract and 1st Rounder...With Okur and Fes with Al playing some C too, they don't at all need a young Big Man like Koufas...But who would the Jazz sign that would be better Than Iggy and they'll be too good for a top pick with AK this year...

Sixers...They do lose a elite level athlete and all around player but they rent AK for the year and cash in that huge expiring Contract and sell Philadalphia to the Biggest Free Agent this summer...Carmelo would have to look at Philly after The Knicks struggle and their overall lack of talent shines through...Philly would be forfeiting a good possibility as the trade would open up For The Young Guys...AK is a very good player and could be a great role player going forward, but It's clear you go after Melo with the over 20 million in cash he and Kapono would represent...The team would be in place for a high lottery pick and the Jazz's mid to late 1st rounder...

Holiday/Turner/Thad/Brand/Hawes/AK/Speights/Lou/Nocioni/Meeks/Battie/Kapono...we lose Ak and Kapono next year and Add a top 5 Pick...Sullinger would be great if we get the 5th pick...either he or Kanter will be the 5th guy off the board...We could also get another wing man like Tyler Honeycutt with the Jazz's pick...Then we go hard after Melo and Greg Oden...the Blazers will be capped out and with his history I feel they'll let him walk...We could take the risk and watch it pay off big time...

Next year's Roster...

Holiday / Lou Williams

Turner/ Ty Honeycutt/ Meeks

Carmelo/ Thad/ Nocioni (Best SF line up in the NBA)

Sullinger/ Speights and Brand (3 headed Monster)

Oden / Hawes/Koufas (Offense and Defense)

Is that not a nasty ass Line Up...and they can do it by trading Iggy for AK...getting a top 5 pick and drafting Jared Sullinger( very likely with a young line up of Holiday/Turner/Thad/AK and Brand...Lou/M16 and Hawes off the bench and Nocioni/Koufas and Meeks playing spot minutes...Sullinger would become the future PF...Oden would become the Center we alway wanted Sammy to be barring another major injury...Then signing Carmelo to lead the Team in Scoring and becoming the face of a very young and talented Franchise...This make the Sixers a top 3 Team in the East and If Holiday and Turner continue to grow at the rate they are know watch out...That Team is a Championship contender...

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Iggy plays 82 games and great

Iggy plays 82 games and great defense...plus he is a great teammate who always knows when to score or facilitate those type of intangibles are invaluable to a championship team....However the Sixers are not a championship caliber teams so I'm all for trading Iggy to OKC for Harden and Ibaka

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Mr 19134...read above...

It's an interesting way to Trade Iguadola...AK and Koufas plus 2011 1st rounder isn't Harden and Ibaka...But Ibaka isn't a 7'0 starting Center... and Harden and Turner may cancel each other out...The trade is basicly trade Iggy for Ak's expiring deal...Start the young trio of Holiday,Turner and Thad and lose another season for growth...get A top 5 pick and draft Jared Sullinger...Use the Jazz pick for UCLA all around player Tyler Honeycutt...Sign Carmelo for the Max, get Oden for 5 to 10 million...Next Years Line Up..

Holiday in year 3...The Break Out...I see him having a Chancey Billups role on this Team...Williams will be the instant scorer off the bench and give the Sixers a good 1/2 punch at Pg...

Turner in year 2...ET phones home...I see ET becoming a solid Sg and playing in the Rip Hamilton role,he'll become a great mid range player and could be Brandon Roy lite...Tyler Honetcutt would be a very good defender and role player with the Jazz's Pick...UCLA guys don't let you down...

Carmelo...can just be the Elite Scorer that he is...He'll be the biggest star on a deep and talented team that has tons of youth to boot...Thad Young would become either the best 6th man in the League back up Turner/Melo and the Pf 's...He'd be an X factor every game...He'd be perfect playing in a Tayshaun Prince role off the bench...

Brand / Sullinger and Speights will share time and give the Sixers the Deepest frontcront in The NBA...Sullinger and Speights are in the plans for Sixers...count on that in the Draft...They'd be a great combo at PF...Brand will be the tough vet grooming the Sully/Speights duo...

Oden and Hawes would be the ying and yang at Center...Hawes can score and Oden can lock down the paint...Having another big in Koufas who would make the 4 th Ohio State player on the Team ain't bad either...

Tell me what you think...

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Yeah my bad I never notice

Yeah my bad I never notice the subject line you're like the only person who writes stuff in it...

But I do like that scenario the only scary part is that its up to Rod Thorn to piece all that together after the trade and so much could go wrong.

Oden is exactly what we need....Melo would fit perfectly in Philly...Look at the Eagles game today and Ryan Howard being there then later in the night on Fox we had the Phils beating up on the Giants....Philly is the spot to be for an athlete right now...Melo should seriously consider this instead of playing in a city that has so many sports teams nobody cares when they do good...In New York playing well is expected and not praised...In Philly we don't take any success for granted...

I love Sullinger I think he can be a 20 year old Elton Brand. But I also like Kanter and Jones a lot...Either way another top 5 pick would be just what the Dr. ordered as long as we dont screw it up like we did by drafting Turner over Cousins....

I would want CJ Miles in any trade involving Utah too and I don't think Kosta is better then Spencer.

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That is some ambitious

That is some ambitious thinking and people thinking its too far fetched forget what Washingtons roster looked like before the start of last year..

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Oden would be a beast for

Oden would be a beast for Philly.

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You're saying what jru will

You're saying what jru will do. He hasn't done it yet therefore there's no proof that he's better than Felton. Like I said untill proven (proven being the key word) then the players you named ate not better

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So Stanford Hoops who would

So Stanford Hoops who would you rather have Jrue Holiday or Ray Felton?

And let's talk about proving themselves this season. Holiday is putting up 11 points 7 rebounds, 5 assists, and 2 steals in the preseason... Felton is avering 8 points 3 rebounds, 6 assists, and 1 steal. And Holiday is shooting a higher % plus plays hands down better on ball defense...

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WTF has anyone expect Amare proven on the Knicks

What has Gallo done that makes hime better than Thad...What has Chandler done to be better than Turner...what has Felton done up until this point that makes him better than Jrue...Randolph has done nothing to prove to people he's better than Speights....stanford hoops you should be able to see that those guys are better then the Knicks right now...

now Oden would be Real Center...Sullinger would be the young PF that we need to take over for Brand...He and Speights would be a nice Duo for the future,,,..Carmelo would make this team official...hell even with Oden and Sullinger e'd be tough ass hell...I don't know how any sports star would pick the Knicks over Sixers...A hundred million dollars here is just as good as getting it in New York...and it can happen...how many people saw the Heat getting LBJ and Bosh...

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I'm glad you asked those two

I'm glad you asked those two questions because I'm here to answer them. First off you ask What has Gallo done to make him better than Thad, as if Young has been a 3 time all star or something to that degree. Young is a good player, he doesn't impress me but I wouldn't just say he is better than Gallo. Gallo has a very high basketball IQ and is a decebt bal handler for a person that is 6'10. My only gripe with Gallo is, he shoots way too many 3's. If he would put the ball on the floor it would open his game up so much because he has shown he can shoot off the dribble. My only gripe with Young is, he doesn't have range. Young and Chandler remind me a lot of each other, except the fact that Chandler is the better mid range shooter of the two.

I can even tell you what Chandler has done to be better than Turner, play in an NBA game. Turner has looked good in a couple of games, but still remains inconsistent and confidence is a main issue. At times he looks hesistent on offense. In fact, I didn't like the Turner draft pick as he and Iggy are essentially the same damn player. Both are very versitile, but aren't the type of player that puts a team over the hump as a #1 option.

And you can not be serious in saying how any team can pick the Knicks over the Sixers. You're joking right? First off the roster is better. The Knicks front court is better than the 76ers by leaps and bounds. I would rather have STAT, Gallo and Mozgov over Speights, Brand, and Young. And the Knicks have a way better bench than the 76ers.

And I'm even mad you tried to slip in that Jodie Meeks is better than Bill Walker. Absolutely not. Walker is 10x the athlete and has even shown in a short time that he is just as good a long range shooter. Meeks shot 38% in his 1st season with the 76ers, Walker shot 42% in his season with the Knicks, and Walker played more games than Meeks.

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Narc, let it go. I feel you

Narc, let it go. I feel you man about NY but it's pointless.

He comes on, argues and leaves for 2 weeks.

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