Im not sure if i have asked this b4, but im wondering to which u guys think are the better athletes between fball and bball and y?
basketball...marginal college basketball players go to the NFL & become All-Pro's...doesn't happen the other way around (Charlie Ward kinda, but not really lol)
Basketball easily. In football you play one side of the ball and you become good at that. Sure in pros you need to be fast, quick, strong, and flexible in order to make the big plays and all that but you also get about a minute break in between each play. In basketball, the supreme talent always rises to the top because of their speed, quickness, ability to finish, etc. Not only that, but you have to be able to play both sides of the ball for extended periods of time. Not to mention the shortest guy in the NBA is 5'9 which in football isn't too far off from the typical DB size. In basketball, if you're not bigger, stronger, and faster than your competition, you can't make it in the NBA.
I would say football players get the slight edge for me just because of their ability to move at the speed that alot of them do while carrying the huge amount of weight. Tight Ends nowadays run 4.5 to 4.7 40 yard dashes at 245 to 265 pounds. Defensive Ends usually weight between 265 and 290. 2 345 pound nfl draft prospects just recently at the combine/pro days ran sub 5 second 40 yard dashes. Thats just not supposed to happen.
I guess from a pure explosiveness standpoint, it would be football. But from a lateral quickness, stamina, and speed Basketball may get the edge. Football is alot more about Power and Explosiveness while Basketball is typically more speed and Explosiveness. It really could go either way though and is impossible to really speculate because the sports are so different.
Depends who you're comparing. WR or DL to SF or C.
All in all, I think basketball players are more athletic due to their size. Basketball is the only sport where you'll find 6'6 players with 40in verticals. The size-to-athletic ratio is through the roof whereas in football, it's usually the 5'8 - 6'3 WRs/CBs that are the most athletic. (Obviously some exceptions) In the NBA, even at 6'10-7ft you'll find athletic freaks and in football, anybody over 6'6 is usually a quarterback or line-man.
Inch for inch, basketball is more athletic.
Football, you have all the training for speed and explosion incorperated with basketball and then you add freakish strength. I think the addition of strength without deterioration of speed or vertical leap makes football players ( usually excluding linemen although there are exceptions) the superior athletes.
For example, I'll use wide recievers because they are usually the closest to NBA players as far as build.
This year in the NFL combine there were 6 WR's who tested over a 39'' vertical leap. Those same guys are benching 225 lbs between 15 and 22 times and running 4.4 40's. There are NBA guys with 39 - 43'' verts, but none of them are benching 400 and squatting 600.
I feel football players because they wiegh so much but move so fast.And most football players jump higher and are stronger
Football. if you just go off the combine in itself from a run and jump perspective it has to be football. Look at the no step vertical jumps(draft express) for basketball players compared to the no step vertical for football players and they're standing verticals are lower. Football players are stronger and weigh more. I mean the NBA combine strength test is 185 compared to 225 for football and the football players stil rep out way more than the basketball players. Now obviously it takes more skill to dribble and shoot but based on raw numbers it's football. Don;t get me wrong a great athlete can play either sport but it's football hands down if you're talking about a combine run and jump setting.
In terms of run/jump athletes football players are easily more athletic. Derrick Rose is considered the most athletic point guard ever and he has a 40 inch running vertical. Tim Tebow is a fairly athletic quarter back but has a 38.5 inch vertical from a stand still. Thats just one example, but football players are trained to the limits of their athletic potential by doing all sorts of weight training and conditioning, the nature of the sport necessitates it . Its an extraordinarily taxing sport where you have 6'6" 260 pounddefensive ends running 4.5s and being as graceful as a gazelle. With that being said, I'm sure that many NBA players could have been in the NFl had they decided tofrom an early age and received the same training, LBJ is as athletic as youll find in any sport.
Different kind of athlete and different conditioning. Anyone who had guys come to high school basketball season a few weeks late becuase of the football overlap know that it always took them a while to adjust their conditioning. I'm going to have to say overall football though. Force= Mass x Acceleration.
I guess it depends on how you want to define athlete. For every NFL player that could play in the NBA, I could probably name 5 NBAers who could play football. How many potential WR's, TE's, S's, DE, LT's, DB's are there in the NBA? A LOT!!! If 40's, benches, etc...were as important in basketball as they are in football, I'm sure you would see some very impressive numbers too...let's be honest, basketball players hate the weight room!
Basketball has just as good as athletes besides maybe strength, but they are waaaay taller. This makes a huge difference. There is no football player over 6'6 who can move like a Rudy Gay, much less a LeBron James. Maybe the average football and average basketball player might be about the same, but when it comes to FREAK athletes, basketball has them all. Can you imagine LeBron playing football? If he trained for strength and got even bigger? There is no doubt in my mind LeBron would be able to get HUGE if he was a football player. He is jacked already, and can not get any bigger because it will hinder his speed. Could you imagine him as a linebacker or safety if he got bigger. He would have sooo many interceptions and deflections. Or as a tight end? Dominant. What about Shaquille O'Neal in his prime. Can you imagine him as a DE or a TE? He may be a little slow, but for being 7'2 340 pounds, he was unbelievabley fast. He would also be able to dominate. What about Dwight Howard. If he put on weight can you imagine him at Tight End? The average defender is about 5'9 with the same vertical as him. It would be unfair. I don't think there is any football players that you can say if they came and play basketball, that they would instantly dominate. Also in football, you can get by more by just being huge. You can even be fat. There are specialty positions and things like kicker and punter. Basketball, even the huge 7'3 guys like Pavel Podkozline could not get by on simply size or one skill. And another thing is football is drafting over 200 people a year from the USA. In basketball, there are about 60 a year from ALL OVER THE WORLD. I think it is far harder to make it into the NBA.
Just because guys like Lebron are great athletes doesn't mean every NBA player is that grt an athlete.
Also Lebron was a football player in high school too.
Look at Defensive Lineman that carry all that weight and are shorter guy like Julius Peppers comes to mind.
You seen some Offensive Lineman run at around 300 pounds or more some are pretty fast these guys in the combines get some sick numbers.
WR's like Calvin Johnson, RB like Adrian Peterson that guy punishes defender.
Please don't bring up Dwight Howard he's not even as agile as Olajuwon or David Robinson.
In a combine testing setting football easily. The stop/start nature of the game allows guys to weigh a lot more than NBA guys and give max efforts for less than 10 seconds without compromising any explosiveness. NBA guys have to get up and down the floor for longer continuous periods so need to keep their weight down. If basketball players could get away with carrying extra weight I think they would compare better strength wise.
At the end of the day we are talking about a tiny fraction of the top 1% of athletes in the world playing in either the NFL or NBA. I'd say most NFL players above 5'10 could be NBA players had they chose to play basketball and similarly most NBA guys below 6'6 could have played NFL level football in a different life.
i think bbal players are better natural athletes
Of course, when it comes to combine numbers, it's easily football players because of the fact that football players are 30-50lbs lighter and 4-8 inches shorter. It's easier to be faster and more explosive when you're smaller.
Inch for inch though, NBA players are more athletic. For every athletic 6'6" NFL player, I can name 3 athletic 6'10" NBA players.
Inch for inch, basketball players are more athletic.
I'd be interested to see some kind of competition from guys in all sports to find out the worlds greatest athlete.
Julius Peppers is a shorter guy? Not really. That man is quite tall.
julius peppers actually played ball for UNC and mcnabb played to bball for 'cuse
in the tournament one year and was actually getting some NBA talk at that point. McNabb was a bench warmer, but good point!
Basketball's best athletes are incredible. But the NBA also has a bunch of pretty mediocre athletes that just play the game because they are tall. Remember George Muereson was actually a fairly good NBA player for a number of years. But he was so slow and uncoordinated that you couldn't imagine him effectively playing any other sport in any way. I don't think the NFL has guys like that. Chris Dudly was another one of all time obviously not coordinated guys. He was strong, 6' 10" and could jump a bit. The guy was so uncoordianted even after years of being a professional basketball player he had seasons where he shot free throws at under 40%. I suspect that most grade school girls teams don't have players shooting free throws that bad. That was one seriously uncoordinated dude.
The NBA has lots of tall guys, that I doubt could competently play tennis or soccer or hit a baseball. How athletic can you be if you can't do any sport other than the one that really rewards tall guys? The best NBA athletes are incredible, but if you are talking about the entire league against league, you have to also include the NBA guys who even after years in the league don't look like they can dribble the ball. Of course, maybe there are guys like that in the NFL and we just don't know because they play the non-skill positions so they never do something that requires coordination like catching the ball.
JoeWolf said it perfectly.
Naturally football players can bench more weigh than a basketball player, but that doesn't mean a basketball player doesn't have the capacity to increase there strength if they needed to play football... Football players weight train to play football, so that doesnt mean they are better athletes..The reason why in would say basketball players because of their versatility... Duncan (ex swimmer), Lebron (all state wide out), Nash (ex soccer player), Nate Robinson (standout DB), AI (standout QB), etc etc etc.. The NBA is full of athletes that can probaly play other sports..
Take some football players that played basketball that are considered standout athletes at thei position: Peppers, gates, Gonzales (early days), Joey Graham when they played basketball in college they were just average athletes, but in the NFL they are elite athletes.. Cam Newton and Calvin Johnson are probably the most athletic players in the league, put them on a basketball court they would be just another "athlete" on the court..
I think basketball players can translate better to football than visa versa because of their superior balance/agility and hand eye coordination...
Think about a team with Westbrook and Rose flanked at the wideouts and Lebron in the slot as a TE.... SCARY!!!
And for every unathletic 7 footer the NBA has, the NFL has straight up FAT OLinemen and DLinemen. You think that they would be able to compete in other sports? Doubt it.