What team do you think would hone his skills the best?
The teams that would best hone his skills are teams with a strong veteran presence. Problem with the draft for talented guys with character issues or other contributing factors is that teams that have good vets don't see the lottery often. I think Sacramento is the absolute worst spot for Shabazz, the organization is full of guys with issues. I think a couple decent fits would be Oklahoma, Boston Philadelphia and even Portland. Not saying these are his best on-court fits right away but they might be the best to see his full potential eventually unfold.
Boston Celtics. KG and PP wouldn't let him get away with anything but working hard every single day. What else does a rookie really need?
I'm not so sure KG & P Double will be in bean town next season.
Minnesota, Portland, OKC, Dallas all look like good landing spots for him to me.
He will not get past them at 11 if he's still available, the 76ers are ready to move Turner for a late lottery pick too (Milwuakee and Minnesota have had interest in the past)
is kind of a mess right now. The original question was about where he would fit best. In my opinion, it would benefit him best to go to a team with solid veteran leadership and also, to a situation where he wouldn't be expected to step right in and be the savior right away. I don't know if Philly would offer him either. First they need to address what the hell they are going to do cray cray Bynum. If they don't resign him they have to take a big in the draft. The three headed monster of Kwame, Lavoy and Spencer just isn't going to cut it.
When someone who isn't a fan of Philly looks at their roster, what do they see? Jrue Holliday is nice, I personally like Thad although he is a bit of a tweener, I'd like to see what Moultrie could do with more minutes, and you might be able to get something of value for ET, but other than that they are junk. They need to start over by acquiring draft picks, drafting wisely, developing those draft picks and then making shrewd free agent acquistitions. Last year, they had a chance to revamp the roster on the fly, but wasted their cap flexibility on Kwame, Dorell Wright and Swaggy P, who collectively earned $12.5 million from Philly this year. Add in losing Iggy, Vucevic and Harkless for the aforementioned Bynum and J Rich (who made $5.8 this season), and management has definitely had a year to forget.
He may very well end up in Philly, and if they can move ET for a lotto pick I do it with no hesitation, I just don't know if he would benefit from that type of pressure to have to produce right away.
Philly is a Bit of a mess right now but their plans are going to be revealed soon...
1. for better or worse Andrew Bynum will return as our starting Center, the Team cant sign a better Free Agent this year and have loss a ton of assets to get him in the first place...With a healthy Bynum this Team is in the playoffs, still worry about his knees but the Deal in place should protect the Team in case he re-injures himself in the 1st two seasons...
2. Evan Turner and Kwame Brown are going to be traded at the deadline or let go at the end of the 2013/2014 season(10 million in cap space) Turner is being shopped for a late lottery pick as I type this(Milwuakee has shown interest in playing him at G and F, they're not going to keep both Jennings and Ellis, Reddick and Turner can play alongside either, The Bucks are said to favor the Ellis/Reddick/Turner trio, and I think the 15th pick is being targeted so the 76ers can draft a Bigman (Olynyk, Adams, Dieng and Gobert are all good fits with or without Bynum)
3. Nick Young is as good as gone, Dorrell Wright is set to return and start in place of Turner at Sf, watching longer defenders like Paul George and Jimmy Butler has gained Wright one last chance to show what he's got to offer the Team, he matches up better against those longer wings then Turner does...
4. The 76ers Front Office loves Shabazz at 11, they may even try to move up using those 2nd round picks to get him, they are one of the few Teams that would take Shabazz Top 5 if they had the Pick, they love his motor and his driving ability is much needed alongside Holiday and Wright, he's also a better jump shooter than given credit for, he'd be a great fit for the Team all around...
1. Yeah I think they are pretty much stuck with Bynum as well. Like you said, they have given up too much to let him go now. A sign and trade would be interesting, but you have to wonder if they could get back enough to make it worthwhile.
2. I like that ET deal for both teams.
3. Young is just not a good basketball player. I'm not sure if Dorell is the defender they are hoping he is going to be. He shoots three's and that's about it.
4. One thing we hadn't discussed is the Pistons potentially taking Muhammad at 8. Do you think Philly is prepared to move up if they feel like Detroit is going to take him? Or would they take BPA at that point?
Where are you hearing this Turner to Milwaukee stuff... I'm from Milwaukee and follow everything that has to do with the Bucks and I've heard nothing...
Detroit needs a wing scorer who will be demand the ball in the late quarters of the game....Singler isn't cutting it, neither is Stuckey.
I think Minnesota would be a good fit for him. Since he's a poor iso and off-the dribble guy, he could be utilized well in their motion offense with Rubio spraying the ball around. Get him moving around off the ball and active, utilizing cuts, curls and running the baseline instead of standing around and clapping for the ball, watching the team's "stars" pound the rock.
So siggy you don't buy that bazz didn't fit the UCLA system and that style didn't suit him? Bazz has said in several interviews that he likes taking guys off the dribble and iso's are big parts of his game and that he didn't get to showcase that in college and that he always felt comfortable bringing the ball up the court in high school.
Not at all. I think the way that they used him helped him. He didn't have to rely on his ability to create his own offense. They used him in curls, set screens for him, allowed the offense to create the space and supply the momentum for him since he couldn't do it on his own. In order for whatever team who drafts him to maximize his ability, I think they should use him in a similar manner.
It doesn't matter what he's comfortable with if he's not effective with it. He doesn't have the handle, creativity or first step to be effective in iso situations. He doesn't have the awareness or passing ability to be used in PnR situations either. He should never be the primary or even secondary ball-handler given his decision making and handle.
Ya coming off screens and curls did help his game but he didn't do too much of that in HS and created his own shot more than what we saw at UCLA. I agree his handles, creativity, and ISO game isn't that great but they never ran isolations or pick n rolls for him which he says he was capable of doing
I don't think he's capable of running a pick n roll but his ISO game could have been used more, but than again he never really even tried to take guys off the dribble even when he had chances to
Cha, if they can't get Ben at #4, Bazz will also be nice fit next to MKG on the wing and provide the need of scoring.
This is the guy in this draft. He has a boulder on his shoulder right now and I think it will motivate him into a star for whereever he goes. The Pistons need a scorer who can create on the wing. I think this is their guy. If they don't pick him they should pick up Ledo. These were the top two scorer coming out of high school. Bazz has the potential like Paul pierce did with a lil more speed at his age.