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Ben McLemore is the truth.

Kansas was looking at a huge home upset at the hands of Iowa St, when Ben McLemore decided "I am unstoppable". He hit big shot after big shot, showing an ability break down the defense at will, going 5-5 for three including the game tying 3 with 1.3 seconds. 28 points, 8-10 from the field, 5-5 for three- 7-7 from the line and every shot was necessary.

He is far more impressive to me than any two guard was last year, and definitely the best two guard prospect to me since Harden. It just looks so easy for him at this level, and that a sign of greatness.


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McLemore has an amazing

McLemore has an amazing shooting stroke and its not just for show... it looks good and its also effective.

I love his shot selection aswell. He didn't appear to force too much in a tight game...untill the end, but they needed him to hit big shots and he delivered.

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Did you watch the game

Did you watch the game against Temple where he was thoroughly outplayed by Khalif Whyatt and Kansas would of lost had it not been for Whitheys down low dominance?

Facts is B Mac failed to take over the game vs Temple and they nearly lost because of it. Yes he just had a great game today and was unstoppable but let's not get carried away. He still has a lot of improvements he needs to make to his game and the dude is already 21 years old.

As far as SG prospects go entering the league Evan Turner had everything you could want in a SG except the ability to shoot with range consistently. But Turner averaged 21, 9 and 6 in the Big Ten which were numbers that nobody has saw from a SG since the likes of Oscar over 30 years ago. So coming into the league it's safe to say that Turner was a heck of a SG "prospect" You can't say what he has done since entering the league when we are talking about prospects, you can only go off of what he did before entering the league and his resume was as good as it got for a SG.

Coming into todays game B Mac is only averaging 15 ppg, 5.5 rpg, and 2.2 apg. They are very good stats especially on his high % but they aren't as good as Bazz's numbers whose been on a tear averaging over 20ppg, and they're actually on par with Brad Beals numbers last year who even tho he shot a worse % was 3 years younger then B Mac.

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Turner also didn't have the

Turner also didn't have the athleticism, or quickness, but more size and strength. He was also viewed as a slightly undersized SF given how much he played through the post.

I also saw Khalif Whyatt thouroughly outplay all of Syracuse in our one loss, especially future lotto pick MCW. Whyatt has a man body and a mans game, when he chooses to focus.

Remember, Kansas has three senior leaders that are all trying to get drafted. Its not surprising that he would be deferential as a redshirt freshman. He' s only averaging 11 shots a game, and given that Kansas is playing for a championship with an experienced team, and Bazz only other real offensive threat is another freshman, its not surprising that they'd give Bazz more leeway.

I'm just saying,McLemores ability to penetrate when focus is something special.

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Turner was actually viewed as

Turner was actually viewed as an oversized PG before a SF coming out, and everybody who said if Turner is drafted to play anything besides PG then you're going to be disapointed were right unfortunatly but that's another topic for another day.

And this is the first time I ever saw B Mac really penetrate and get where he wanted to go on the floor with the ball in his hands.

It's B Mac's catch and shoot game and ability to get points within the flow of an offense that really make him special in my eyes. but this ability is still not on par with Bazz's even tho B Mac had 2 crucial years of development in order to get there is all I'm trying to point out.

I'm just trying to curb the enthusiasm before it get's out of control because it will fast on this board. I'd like to see him continue to play this way and if he's able to do that then i will start the veritas too but Bazz has taken over the last 7 games for UCLA and is getting nowhere near the love that B Mac is getting and I don't understand that.

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@Mr. 19134 Agreed, Mclemore

@Mr. 19134

Agreed, Mclemore is not perfect. There are many areas which he can continue to improve however, I really like the tools he has to continue to build off of. Kansas plays a system game, couldn't that limit his ability to take over whenever he wants? I'm pretty sure he could inflate his stats across the board if he was given a green light.

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I agree with you on Kansas

I agree with you on Kansas system, but at the same time it's also their system that makes him incredibly efficient.

Bill Self might be the best coach in college basketball in my eyes and his teams are always going to be winners. This will make certain prospects look like they're the reason they are winning instead of the coach. The Morris brother were slightly over valued going into the draft because it was believed they were the reason Kansas was so good. Then Thomas Robinson got the same treatment last year. This year it's B Mac. These are all good players with potential to be very good starters in the league, but I just don't see the susper star potential.

I'm getting negged for comparing B Mac to Ross so people obviously don't agree, but imagine Ross on Kansas right now and the type of numbers and highlights he'd be putting up. Ross and B Mac are actually about the same age too so it's not a far fetched idea. Had Ross transfered after his fresh year, and redshirted last year, and was now playing for Kansas this year I think you're talking about a National Player of Year candidate as he would be lighting up scoreboards for Kansas.

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Ross didn't have the shot

Ross didn't have the shot selection or bball IQ that McLemore has. That to me is a big difference. Kansas shares the sugar and in that type of system, players have to really know how to pick their spots. Ben is excellent at picking his spots. Ross also doesn't have the first step or playmaking ability that Ben has either.

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I think B Macs shot selection

I think B Macs shot selection is attribute to Kansas system. Its not like he has to pick his spots, he finishes lobs at the rim and takes open 3s. Simple stuff. And Ross is every bit the athlete B Mac is and is better with the ball. His 1st step is useless without ball handling ability. Much like Rodney Carney at Memphis.

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A player has to have the IQ

A player has to have the IQ to function within a system and still be able to pick his spots within the system. Self isn't telling him that split second whether to shoot or not.

I disagree that Ross is better with the ball as well. Not only his Ross' handle weak, but so is his passing and driving game. Instead of taking straight lines to the hoop, which is what he should do given his straight line speed, he tends to hop and skip to the hole, like he has no confidence in his ability to take it all the way to the hoop. He also has a tendency to want to gather and jump off of 2 feet (which could explain the skipping) which takes away from some of his straight line speed as well.

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He finally showed some

He finally showed some confidence in his dribble penetration today. He was pushed on one of his drives that wasn't called, otherwise he would have finished with only one miss.

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he is good. but he is not

he is good. but he is not good enough to deserve a back to back threads on the same topic a half hour after the first was posted.

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Started my post before there

Started my post before there was a thread about him. My bad.

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B Mac in my eyes is like

B Mac in my eyes is like Terrence Ross playing for Kansas, not some super rare SG prospect.

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Is there anyone who is "super

Is there anyone who is "super rare" in this draft?

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I dunno about super rare but

I dunno about super rare but there are a few rare prospects in this draft for different reasons. Noels and Cauley Stein are rare specimens because of they're combination of size, length, and athleticism combined with defensive intensity.

Cody Zeller and Alex Len are both rare polished 7 foot scorers.

But the one prosect who in my eyes is truly rare is Bazz. When was the last time you saw a wing come into college as physically imposing and fundamentally polished as Bazz is? When was the last time a freshman wing averaged over 20ppg with his athleticism?

I just think B Mac is in the same class as guys like Ross and Lamb. That is not a knock on B Mac one bit because I believe that Ross and Lamb both have All Star potential and could become 20ppg scorers in the NBA.

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Are there highlights from

Are there highlights from this game anywhere yet? I didn't get a chance to watch it, but I'd love to see his "takeover", what sort of looks he was getting.

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He was taking and making all

He was taking and making all kind of contested threes. His release and lift on his jumper just let's him create soo much lift over his defender.

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Yeah

He is. Kids not playing around.

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Unlike non-takeover guys

Unlike non-takeover guys mentioned, Ben is playing in his first college season and isn't even 20 games into his career. He needs to realize he can do what he did last night on a regular basis. If he does, watch out. If he doesn't I still think he's a productive starting shooting guard in the league. I think he's a high ceiling and a high floor player.

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