Ben McLemore #1 in 2013???
A draft with no clear cut projected "superstar". Who do you go with? Big Handsome? I doub it. Noel? Probably not. Smart? Meh. Shabazz? I dunno... I'm just not overly impressed at the moment. Afterall, we're talking about the # 1 pick!
I'm calling it now so I can look smart later.
Ben McLemore is going #1 in the 2013 draft. No caveat. Team needs, draft position, potential injury? ...forget it. Ben McLemore somehow goes #1.
Post in this thread if you feel the same.
Even if you don't, leave your name here and put your rep on the line for all to see. Call your shot. Tell us all who goes #1.
Noel, Zeller, McLemore, Smart, Shabazz,...someone else?
We're at the half way point, 183 days from the draft.
Whats your opinion?
you should be impressed and im still going with him as the number 1 pick this year
With his improved diet and work ethic, perhaps he'll get his explosivness back but I feel a player worthy of a #1 pick shouldn't have been that out of it to begin with. That was his main advantage at this point in his career. Since his game is not overly 1 on 1 oriented he will struggle against elite defenders in the NBA. I also feel his shot is average at best... so whats to love? He's a solid player, but #1?
Who knows though? We're six months out. Things could change in a hurry.
I'll mark you down for Shabazz.
hes streaky , but he can score in bunches , he also has been showing that he can put it on the floor a bit more. He has a quick first step and hes explosive , the only one thing that bothers me is his passing. And he had valid reasons for being out of shape unlike some of his other teammates...
There isn't a clear cut winner. I'm thinking it's going to be totally depending on whoever wins the first pick, and who they like. I wanna know who people think will end up being the better player between Shabazz and Mclemore ? I haven't gotten the chance watch either two much. Who is the better shooter between the two ? People were saying Shabazz shot is streaky, but from the limited time I watched him his shot looked elite.
I think he's going to be a top 3 to 8 pick..
But i still have Shabazz and Goodwin rated ahead of him as the top shooting guard prospects...
He does a great job of getting open ,finds a way to get to the rim,combine that with great athleticism and sensational shooting skills...But still has to make some improvements to his game,like the ability to create his own shot...Becuz he wont be able to do the things at the next level,he's doing now....
How do you have Goodwin ahead of Ben Mac? Archie is good but he's a combo guard that screams Tyreke Evans with a slightly better J to me, watching Ben play is just one word to describe it: smooth. His stroke is effortless and the way he gets up above the rim looks effortless
OK,Lebron's Hairline..U compare Goodwin to Tyreke Evans...The comparisions i see most for McLemore is Jason Richardson..So who do you think is the better player Evans or Jason Richardson?
Lmao JRich all the way, Tyreke has proven time gain that he can only be effective with the ball in his hands, yet he's not good enough to be a full time ball handler; it's his 4th year yet still no J. Ben is way much better than JRich was at this stage of their careers, I really think he could possibly be a Ray Allen type of player, yet even JRich seeing as how he had multiple 20+ seasons and dunk contest invites isn't a bad guy to be compared to
I have already gone down saying Ben could be the number one pick, but Im still not ready to say he WILL be. I do think he is a better prospect than Zeller, but as of now I think Shabazz is the favorite for number one. It may just come down to the draft need of the team, you never know until the season pans out. Ben is still improving every game, but in order for him to go number one he has to show us more driving ability and his handles which seem pretty weak. For someone of his athleticism, I have not seen an impressive first step from him, yet at least, but his jumping ability is off the charts.
As a Bobcats fan I would absolutely love Kemba Mclemore MKG going forward if they get the chance to draft him, Ben compliments MKG and Kemba a lot more than Shabazz, who's game is very similar to MKG.
That all sounds pretty fair. Who's your man though?
I like how you used words/phrases like "could", "you never know", "yet at least"... Are you chickening out with a "too early to tell"? Make the tough call. :)
Shabazz or Ben?
J Rich? The only 2 things he does on offense are dunking & shooting 3s..He cant create plays for himself or his teammates...And unless McLemore improve parts off his game,he's going to become a similar type player.....Thats why Richardson hasnt stuck with the same team,he has holes in his game..After Evans rookie year,people were expecting him to become an all star,becuz of he stuffed the stats.....The only thing that has hurt him has been himself....
Of course... if "McLemore improves parts of his game", thats the point of this thread. If you think he will/can then going #1 doesn't seem so absurd.
I feel that during Evans rookie season he was the 1st And 2nd option on a talent starved Kings team. His usage rate was off the charts. If you gave a guy like Nate Robinson the same minutes and opportunity... I bet his stats are better then Evans were. Neither playing style seems to translate to wins though.
The Hype McLemore is getting now,reminds me of the overhyping Jeremy Lamb was getting around this time last season.....
i said that too a few weeks back but in reality i still think hes a top 3 pick in this draft as of now.
I believed Lamb deserved the hyped. The hugely overly hyped sg was Bradley Beal.
I honestly feel that if he keeps his current production, does well in march, and has espn continue running articles talking about his POY status, and If these Grandmama/Barkely comparisons continue I could see Anthony Bennett slipping in there. Top 3 at least. I know thats a lot of "if's" and that a lot of posters (myself incl.) are not too high on his ceiling. But, if you're producing 20-10 and a high level athlete, coupled with that hype machine could get you far in a draft like this. Also drafting for a superstar in this one could be a bad idea. More team needs in one like this, and he can fill a lot of roles on the floor.
Recent history tells us that shooting guards don't get drafted number one so I doubt he does, I really like the kid though and he has a bright future in the league and should be top 3. One thing I do know is that Noel shouldn't be number one.
I just hope McLemore doesn't go all Wes Johnson on us. The situation is similar because both had to sit out a year while we heard how good there teams would be with them. Then they came in and performed very well and were drafted top 5(my prediction for McLemore). They don't remind me of each other as players because Ben is a pure SG with a real nice shot while but the situations just feel similar. I think Ben will succeed but I would still take Shabazz #1.
McLemore has yet to really show he's a killer intinct style offensive player. He plays great within the offense and usually scores more than anyone on the team, but despite his great hops good outside shot, I still think any rise in his stock will be completely contingent on whether he realizes how good he can be and really takes over. He's had some great games against NCAA tournament or better caliber of teams, but he's not a take over guy yet.
21 against 9-2 Oregon State
24 against 9-2 Colorado
22 against #4 Ohio State
Shabazz seems to have gone over the hump and his confidence is great, but he hasn't played as tough a schedule and his big games have been against nobodies. He's doing much better now than he did early in the year, but he hasn't torn it up against anyone good with the exception of SDSU, but he didn't take over the game or really score a ton ( which is his best asset). The fact Bazz isn't a great passer also makes me wonder if he will struggle with the pick and roll in the NBA.
Conference play will really determine which player will get drafted higher. Now, I'd say Ben has the advantage due to what he's done against better teams, but conference play and the NCAA tournament always trumps Nov and Dec games.
All very valid points, however I'm not sure Ben's "lack of a killer instinct" is going to hurt him. I like to think he just picks his spots carefully. Most teams want system guys who can do their part (San Antonio's SG's anyone?)... and since there's no concensus #1 who could take over a game in this draft, why not Ben? Do you really want a JR Smith (pre this season) or Jamal Crawford type hoisting away all game? I think its a good thing when you let your PG do all the work and help provide your SG with wide open looks to open up the floor.
In a league where Demar DeRozan can get himself a 40/4 deal with a mediocre shot and pedestrian level killer instinct... why not Ben?
All that aside and knowing that these predictions may look silly in 6 months... who's your #1 Joe? I know its hard to pick one and put your name beside him but thats the fun part in a draft like this. Call your shot.