[RUDEBOY_Participant]

Who have had the worst debut Harrison Barnes or Evan Turner?

I know its waaaay too early to give up on these guys..Becuz you can still see they have the skills to become great players…

Turner has shown an all around game,despite showing a bad shot selection and trouble playing without the ball..

Barnes is so mature and seems to be a good kid..But he looks lost on the court…

But they were suppose to be Instant Super Stars from the Start…Barnes was said to be UNC’s best recruit since Jordan…

And Turner was compared to Scottie Pippen..So far he’s playing like Minnie Ripperton

[Ghost01Participant]

Turner, because we he was a 3 year college player, his game should have been semi-polished at this point. How much better is he going to get? I have my doubts. Barnes, will get older, and has a great chance of vastly improving over this season alone. Turner though, i mean seriously, what will happen to him? He seems like a "im pretty good at everything but not really good at anything" kind of guy, which just doesnt fit in the NBA.

[Ghost01Participant]

Turner, because we he was a 3 year college player, his game should have been semi-polished at this point. How much better is he going to get? I have my doubts. Barnes, will get older, and has a great chance of vastly improving over this season alone. Turner though, i mean seriously, what will happen to him? He seems like a "im pretty good at everything but not really good at anything" kind of guy, which just doesnt fit in the NBA.

[Ghost01Participant]

Turner, because we he was a 3 year college player, his game should have been semi-polished at this point. How much better is he going to get? I have my doubts. Barnes, will get older, and has a great chance of vastly improving over this season alone. Turner though, i mean seriously, what will happen to him? He seems like a "im pretty good at everything but not really good at anything" kind of guy, which just doesnt fit in the NBA.

[mikeyvthedonParticipant]

Evan Turner to me has easily been more disappointing. Barnes has done far less than expected as well, but Evan Turner was being compared to Brandon Roy. Barnes has played less of the season and has played below expectation and all, but Turner has not even come close. The thing also with Turner is that he is getting minutes, yet doing very little with them. I even feel like the 76ers are underachieving at a greater level than UNC, which is saying something. Turner was killing college ball this time last year, and Barnes was killing HS ball, both have been far below expectations, but Turner much more so. He is barely even talked about as one of the better rookies in the league, much less rookie of the year. I still think both will improve greatly as time goes by, but I would bet more money on Barnes turning things around this year than Turner.

[mikeyvthedonParticipant]

Evan Turner to me has easily been more disappointing. Barnes has done far less than expected as well, but Evan Turner was being compared to Brandon Roy. Barnes has played less of the season and has played below expectation and all, but Turner has not even come close. The thing also with Turner is that he is getting minutes, yet doing very little with them. I even feel like the 76ers are underachieving at a greater level than UNC, which is saying something. Turner was killing college ball this time last year, and Barnes was killing HS ball, both have been far below expectations, but Turner much more so. He is barely even talked about as one of the better rookies in the league, much less rookie of the year. I still think both will improve greatly as time goes by, but I would bet more money on Barnes turning things around this year than Turner.

[mikeyvthedonParticipant]

Evan Turner to me has easily been more disappointing. Barnes has done far less than expected as well, but Evan Turner was being compared to Brandon Roy. Barnes has played less of the season and has played below expectation and all, but Turner has not even come close. The thing also with Turner is that he is getting minutes, yet doing very little with them. I even feel like the 76ers are underachieving at a greater level than UNC, which is saying something. Turner was killing college ball this time last year, and Barnes was killing HS ball, both have been far below expectations, but Turner much more so. He is barely even talked about as one of the better rookies in the league, much less rookie of the year. I still think both will improve greatly as time goes by, but I would bet more money on Barnes turning things around this year than Turner.

[hiphopismylifeParticipant]

Damn good question. There’s really no wrong answer here. Personally, I wasn’t that high on Turner coming in. Considering that Barnes was picked as preseason National Player of the Year by a major publication like USA Today, the first freshman EVER to get that honor, I’ll have to take him. As much as it pains me

[hiphopismylifeParticipant]

Damn good question. There’s really no wrong answer here. Personally, I wasn’t that high on Turner coming in. Considering that Barnes was picked as preseason National Player of the Year by a major publication like USA Today, the first freshman EVER to get that honor, I’ll have to take him. As much as it pains me

[hiphopismylifeParticipant]

Damn good question. There’s really no wrong answer here. Personally, I wasn’t that high on Turner coming in. Considering that Barnes was picked as preseason National Player of the Year by a major publication like USA Today, the first freshman EVER to get that honor, I’ll have to take him. As much as it pains me

[MelParticipant]

 Definitely Turner, if you had to choose. 

Can you honestly tell me people were talking about Evan Turner BEFORE his Junior season. What I mean is, Barnes was hyped but he can turn it around in a major way.

Turner is good at a lot of things , great at none. And the 76ers are a team that has too many players that need the ball. 

Holiday, Lou Williams, Andre Iguodala, Evan Turner….. They aren’t a balanced team and there arent enough minutes for Turner to do something Iggy is getting paid a lot of money to do. We’ll see though

[MelParticipant]

 Definitely Turner, if you had to choose. 

Can you honestly tell me people were talking about Evan Turner BEFORE his Junior season. What I mean is, Barnes was hyped but he can turn it around in a major way.

Turner is good at a lot of things , great at none. And the 76ers are a team that has too many players that need the ball. 

Holiday, Lou Williams, Andre Iguodala, Evan Turner….. They aren’t a balanced team and there arent enough minutes for Turner to do something Iggy is getting paid a lot of money to do. We’ll see though

[MelParticipant]

 Definitely Turner, if you had to choose. 

Can you honestly tell me people were talking about Evan Turner BEFORE his Junior season. What I mean is, Barnes was hyped but he can turn it around in a major way.

Turner is good at a lot of things , great at none. And the 76ers are a team that has too many players that need the ball. 

Holiday, Lou Williams, Andre Iguodala, Evan Turner….. They aren’t a balanced team and there arent enough minutes for Turner to do something Iggy is getting paid a lot of money to do. We’ll see though

[JoeWolf1]

 A lot of people questioned what role Evan Turner would play for the 76ers, and pretty much everyone expected Barnes to come in and tear things up. 

So far I’d say Barnes is more of a disappointment, BUT its early December, either one if not both of these guys could be tearing it up by mid spring after they both adjust.  

[JoeWolf1]

 A lot of people questioned what role Evan Turner would play for the 76ers, and pretty much everyone expected Barnes to come in and tear things up. 

So far I’d say Barnes is more of a disappointment, BUT its early December, either one if not both of these guys could be tearing it up by mid spring after they both adjust.  

[JoeWolf1]

 A lot of people questioned what role Evan Turner would play for the 76ers, and pretty much everyone expected Barnes to come in and tear things up. 

So far I’d say Barnes is more of a disappointment, BUT its early December, either one if not both of these guys could be tearing it up by mid spring after they both adjust.  

[Mr. 19134Participant]

I have watched every Sixers game this season and a couple UNC games so I have a good deal of Turner and only enough of Barnes for me to understand why he is not playing on the level we know he can right now.

Fist off Turner isn’t playing as bad as people who only look at his numbers and think he is.  Here’s a number i’ll tell you too look at, his turnover percent, and his free throw percent compared to other rookies, and his teamates on the Sixers.  He is playing mistake free basketball right now instead of creating the action like we all know he is capable of.  Collins has Turner playing as just another passing cog in the offense, and his confidence is down because of inconsistent minutes.  If Turners does something and get;s a turnover he is taken out the game and that is the biggest reason he has a low turnover rating and low scoring and assists numbers, but amazing  rebound numbers per minute for a guard. People are forgetting that in his debut Turner dropped 16, 7 and 4 against the Heat shooting 7-10 including a cross over and spank em of Dwane Wade and sweet spin move off Chris Bosh for a floater in the lane.  Also in the first Washington game after John Wall looks apparent he was going to get a triple double going into the fourth Turner asked Collins if he could guard Wall and he did so better then anybody else on the team did.  Turner’s problem is Collins don’t know how to handle rookies transitioning to the NBA because instead of letting Turner play thru his mistakes Turner is on the shortest leash of any rookie in the NBA.  Look at Deron Williams whose numbers were very similar to Coach Sloan coming in as an NBA Ready Rookie being a JR at Illinois and a NBA ready body to boot. But Williams and Turner have similar numbers thru the same time span and will probably end up with similar numbers overall for the year.

Harrison Barnes problem is more simple.  He is just not comfortable in the offense and his confidence is little low so he is not hitting jump shots either.  But Barnes like Turner has show glimpse of the skill he posses and all he needs to do now is just get consistent with using that skill like Turner.  

Both players are good comparisons because they are coming from levels where they dominated the competition thru more skill then athleticism and are having trouble adjusting into the next level because skill is harder to integrate and use in the next level then your athleticism is going to be.

[Mr. 19134Participant]

I have watched every Sixers game this season and a couple UNC games so I have a good deal of Turner and only enough of Barnes for me to understand why he is not playing on the level we know he can right now.

Fist off Turner isn’t playing as bad as people who only look at his numbers and think he is.  Here’s a number i’ll tell you too look at, his turnover percent, and his free throw percent compared to other rookies, and his teamates on the Sixers.  He is playing mistake free basketball right now instead of creating the action like we all know he is capable of.  Collins has Turner playing as just another passing cog in the offense, and his confidence is down because of inconsistent minutes.  If Turners does something and get;s a turnover he is taken out the game and that is the biggest reason he has a low turnover rating and low scoring and assists numbers, but amazing  rebound numbers per minute for a guard. People are forgetting that in his debut Turner dropped 16, 7 and 4 against the Heat shooting 7-10 including a cross over and spank em of Dwane Wade and sweet spin move off Chris Bosh for a floater in the lane.  Also in the first Washington game after John Wall looks apparent he was going to get a triple double going into the fourth Turner asked Collins if he could guard Wall and he did so better then anybody else on the team did.  Turner’s problem is Collins don’t know how to handle rookies transitioning to the NBA because instead of letting Turner play thru his mistakes Turner is on the shortest leash of any rookie in the NBA.  Look at Deron Williams whose numbers were very similar to Coach Sloan coming in as an NBA Ready Rookie being a JR at Illinois and a NBA ready body to boot. But Williams and Turner have similar numbers thru the same time span and will probably end up with similar numbers overall for the year.

Harrison Barnes problem is more simple.  He is just not comfortable in the offense and his confidence is little low so he is not hitting jump shots either.  But Barnes like Turner has show glimpse of the skill he posses and all he needs to do now is just get consistent with using that skill like Turner.  

Both players are good comparisons because they are coming from levels where they dominated the competition thru more skill then athleticism and are having trouble adjusting into the next level because skill is harder to integrate and use in the next level then your athleticism is going to be.

[Mr. 19134Participant]

I have watched every Sixers game this season and a couple UNC games so I have a good deal of Turner and only enough of Barnes for me to understand why he is not playing on the level we know he can right now.

Fist off Turner isn’t playing as bad as people who only look at his numbers and think he is.  Here’s a number i’ll tell you too look at, his turnover percent, and his free throw percent compared to other rookies, and his teamates on the Sixers.  He is playing mistake free basketball right now instead of creating the action like we all know he is capable of.  Collins has Turner playing as just another passing cog in the offense, and his confidence is down because of inconsistent minutes.  If Turners does something and get;s a turnover he is taken out the game and that is the biggest reason he has a low turnover rating and low scoring and assists numbers, but amazing  rebound numbers per minute for a guard. People are forgetting that in his debut Turner dropped 16, 7 and 4 against the Heat shooting 7-10 including a cross over and spank em of Dwane Wade and sweet spin move off Chris Bosh for a floater in the lane.  Also in the first Washington game after John Wall looks apparent he was going to get a triple double going into the fourth Turner asked Collins if he could guard Wall and he did so better then anybody else on the team did.  Turner’s problem is Collins don’t know how to handle rookies transitioning to the NBA because instead of letting Turner play thru his mistakes Turner is on the shortest leash of any rookie in the NBA.  Look at Deron Williams whose numbers were very similar to Coach Sloan coming in as an NBA Ready Rookie being a JR at Illinois and a NBA ready body to boot. But Williams and Turner have similar numbers thru the same time span and will probably end up with similar numbers overall for the year.

Harrison Barnes problem is more simple.  He is just not comfortable in the offense and his confidence is little low so he is not hitting jump shots either.  But Barnes like Turner has show glimpse of the skill he posses and all he needs to do now is just get consistent with using that skill like Turner.  

Both players are good comparisons because they are coming from levels where they dominated the competition thru more skill then athleticism and are having trouble adjusting into the next level because skill is harder to integrate and use in the next level then your athleticism is going to be.

[stanford hoops]

i was about to say turner hasnt been horrible he just hasnt been as good as what people expected. ‘m more down on Barnes because he has a easier transition going from HS as the numbe rone player in the nation to college instead of going from college to the NBA

[stanford hoops]

i was about to say turner hasnt been horrible he just hasnt been as good as what people expected. ‘m more down on Barnes because he has a easier transition going from HS as the numbe rone player in the nation to college instead of going from college to the NBA

[stanford hoops]

i was about to say turner hasnt been horrible he just hasnt been as good as what people expected. ‘m more down on Barnes because he has a easier transition going from HS as the numbe rone player in the nation to college instead of going from college to the NBA

[Mr. 19134Participant]

 Thank You Stanford Hoops you pretty much summed up the whole argument i thought the same thing about that difference in transitions.  

[Mr. 19134Participant]

 Thank You Stanford Hoops you pretty much summed up the whole argument i thought the same thing about that difference in transitions.  

[Mr. 19134Participant]

 Thank You Stanford Hoops you pretty much summed up the whole argument i thought the same thing about that difference in transitions.  

[Mr. 19134Participant]

 Barnes disapointing is more like if John Wall was underachieving to me.  Turner wasn’t picked by anybody for rookie of the year lets be honest.  It was a 3 man race between Wall, Griffin, and Cousins we all know that.  Turner did and still does have a shot for first team all rookie tho.

Harrison Barnes was number one like Wall.  He was the first freshmen ever to be named an all american.  If he fails they are gonna look like dummies and now it’s gonna be super hard for another incoming freshman to be named a preseason all american.

[Mr. 19134Participant]

 Barnes disapointing is more like if John Wall was underachieving to me.  Turner wasn’t picked by anybody for rookie of the year lets be honest.  It was a 3 man race between Wall, Griffin, and Cousins we all know that.  Turner did and still does have a shot for first team all rookie tho.

Harrison Barnes was number one like Wall.  He was the first freshmen ever to be named an all american.  If he fails they are gonna look like dummies and now it’s gonna be super hard for another incoming freshman to be named a preseason all american.

[Mr. 19134Participant]

 Barnes disapointing is more like if John Wall was underachieving to me.  Turner wasn’t picked by anybody for rookie of the year lets be honest.  It was a 3 man race between Wall, Griffin, and Cousins we all know that.  Turner did and still does have a shot for first team all rookie tho.

Harrison Barnes was number one like Wall.  He was the first freshmen ever to be named an all american.  If he fails they are gonna look like dummies and now it’s gonna be super hard for another incoming freshman to be named a preseason all american.

[sheltwon3Participant]

Barnes will get better because he has the makings of a great one but it would appear it will take a lil more time.  Evan Turner is on the wrong team and I think he is a guy who will do more his 2nd season that will show why people liked him.  Imagine if Tyreke Evans went to Philly instead of Sacramento where he got all the touches he wanted.  I am not comparing the two but saying that situations can determine stats and a player comfortability.  The pick was never a good one for Philly unless they trade Iggy

[sheltwon3Participant]

Barnes will get better because he has the makings of a great one but it would appear it will take a lil more time.  Evan Turner is on the wrong team and I think he is a guy who will do more his 2nd season that will show why people liked him.  Imagine if Tyreke Evans went to Philly instead of Sacramento where he got all the touches he wanted.  I am not comparing the two but saying that situations can determine stats and a player comfortability.  The pick was never a good one for Philly unless they trade Iggy

[sheltwon3Participant]

Barnes will get better because he has the makings of a great one but it would appear it will take a lil more time.  Evan Turner is on the wrong team and I think he is a guy who will do more his 2nd season that will show why people liked him.  Imagine if Tyreke Evans went to Philly instead of Sacramento where he got all the touches he wanted.  I am not comparing the two but saying that situations can determine stats and a player comfortability.  The pick was never a good one for Philly unless they trade Iggy

[stanford hoops]

i gotta agree as far as turner on the wrong team. they have three guys who are the same type of player( although iggy is better then young and turner) but i agree only for the short term because i think philly trades iggy

[stanford hoops]

i gotta agree as far as turner on the wrong team. they have three guys who are the same type of player( although iggy is better then young and turner) but i agree only for the short term because i think philly trades iggy

[stanford hoops]

i gotta agree as far as turner on the wrong team. they have three guys who are the same type of player( although iggy is better then young and turner) but i agree only for the short term because i think philly trades iggy

[delfamParticipant]

Turner played good when Iggy wasn’t playing, so I think it’s more Turner is trying to fit it to much and when Iggy gets traded he’ll be more inclined to take over and not feel like he’s hoggy the ball.

[delfamParticipant]

Turner played good when Iggy wasn’t playing, so I think it’s more Turner is trying to fit it to much and when Iggy gets traded he’ll be more inclined to take over and not feel like he’s hoggy the ball.

[delfamParticipant]

Turner played good when Iggy wasn’t playing, so I think it’s more Turner is trying to fit it to much and when Iggy gets traded he’ll be more inclined to take over and not feel like he’s hoggy the ball.

[PureshooterParticipant]

The season doesn’t really start until ACC play kicks in.  If Barnes turns it around for conference games none of what has happened so far will matter.

[PureshooterParticipant]

The season doesn’t really start until ACC play kicks in.  If Barnes turns it around for conference games none of what has happened so far will matter.

[PureshooterParticipant]

The season doesn’t really start until ACC play kicks in.  If Barnes turns it around for conference games none of what has happened so far will matter.

[kobyzParticipant]

i hate Collins for what he is doing to Turner, not letting him to express himself, making him extra in the offense, lower is confidence, you can’t complain much about Turner, he can’t do much more in the position he is put in until he improve his shot, on defense he play very good and give great effort on the rebound.

Collins needs to make Turner the ball dominant of the team, it will make the team better… Turner is their best with the ball player, player that will make everyone better when having the ball, he is their most efficient player making plays and the only unselfish player!

[kobyzParticipant]

i hate Collins for what he is doing to Turner, not letting him to express himself, making him extra in the offense, lower is confidence, you can’t complain much about Turner, he can’t do much more in the position he is put in until he improve his shot, on defense he play very good and give great effort on the rebound.

Collins needs to make Turner the ball dominant of the team, it will make the team better… Turner is their best with the ball player, player that will make everyone better when having the ball, he is their most efficient player making plays and the only unselfish player!

[kobyzParticipant]

i hate Collins for what he is doing to Turner, not letting him to express himself, making him extra in the offense, lower is confidence, you can’t complain much about Turner, he can’t do much more in the position he is put in until he improve his shot, on defense he play very good and give great effort on the rebound.

Collins needs to make Turner the ball dominant of the team, it will make the team better… Turner is their best with the ball player, player that will make everyone better when having the ball, he is their most efficient player making plays and the only unselfish player!

[stanford hoops]

He needs to step up. These out of conference games are just as important as the conference games unless they win the ACC tournament, because the tournament committee looks at all the games. I’m not holding my breath though because its not like he’s going hard and just missing shots, He’s isn’t even attempting to take over and deferring to his teammates. That’s what freshmen usually do but not freshmen who Are ranked so high coming into college.

Someone on ESPN made a interesting point. They said he dominated during the summer and AAU which doesn’t have the same systems and structure that college has and the competition level in Iowa in High school hoops is very low so he never had to face this type of competition in a structured environment

[stanford hoops]

He needs to step up. These out of conference games are just as important as the conference games unless they win the ACC tournament, because the tournament committee looks at all the games. I’m not holding my breath though because its not like he’s going hard and just missing shots, He’s isn’t even attempting to take over and deferring to his teammates. That’s what freshmen usually do but not freshmen who Are ranked so high coming into college.

Someone on ESPN made a interesting point. They said he dominated during the summer and AAU which doesn’t have the same systems and structure that college has and the competition level in Iowa in High school hoops is very low so he never had to face this type of competition in a structured environment

[stanford hoops]

He needs to step up. These out of conference games are just as important as the conference games unless they win the ACC tournament, because the tournament committee looks at all the games. I’m not holding my breath though because its not like he’s going hard and just missing shots, He’s isn’t even attempting to take over and deferring to his teammates. That’s what freshmen usually do but not freshmen who Are ranked so high coming into college.

Someone on ESPN made a interesting point. They said he dominated during the summer and AAU which doesn’t have the same systems and structure that college has and the competition level in Iowa in High school hoops is very low so he never had to face this type of competition in a structured environment

[JoeWolf1]

 @kobyz, I don’t agree entirely with Collins as far as his dealings with Turner, but you can’t make him the ball dominant player on the team when you have a young point guard talent in Jrue Holiday.  

I do agree they should try to make him more of an option in the offense though, you can take a backseat, but there are games he’ll take 0-3 shots in 20-25 minutes some of that comes from some coaching and the role he is expected to play for the team.

[JoeWolf1]

 @kobyz, I don’t agree entirely with Collins as far as his dealings with Turner, but you can’t make him the ball dominant player on the team when you have a young point guard talent in Jrue Holiday.  

I do agree they should try to make him more of an option in the offense though, you can take a backseat, but there are games he’ll take 0-3 shots in 20-25 minutes some of that comes from some coaching and the role he is expected to play for the team.

[JoeWolf1]

 @kobyz, I don’t agree entirely with Collins as far as his dealings with Turner, but you can’t make him the ball dominant player on the team when you have a young point guard talent in Jrue Holiday.  

I do agree they should try to make him more of an option in the offense though, you can take a backseat, but there are games he’ll take 0-3 shots in 20-25 minutes some of that comes from some coaching and the role he is expected to play for the team.

[stanford hoops]

Look at it from a  Coach’s view. You’re losing a game and you have a losing record a fan will say " hey play the rookies we are losing anyway so lets develop them and let them take more shots" But as a coach you’re thinking " i keep losing like this and I’m gonna lose my job so i gotta stay with the vets and the players i know can hit the shot consistently"

You want you’re rookies to do well and hit there shots but if they Aren’t hitting you Have to go with the Guys you know who are more likely to hit like iggy. There’s the possibility if you give the rookie more shots he may make more but you’re not ready to risk you’re job/the win for that hope.

[stanford hoops]

Look at it from a  Coach’s view. You’re losing a game and you have a losing record a fan will say " hey play the rookies we are losing anyway so lets develop them and let them take more shots" But as a coach you’re thinking " i keep losing like this and I’m gonna lose my job so i gotta stay with the vets and the players i know can hit the shot consistently"

You want you’re rookies to do well and hit there shots but if they Aren’t hitting you Have to go with the Guys you know who are more likely to hit like iggy. There’s the possibility if you give the rookie more shots he may make more but you’re not ready to risk you’re job/the win for that hope.

[stanford hoops]

Look at it from a  Coach’s view. You’re losing a game and you have a losing record a fan will say " hey play the rookies we are losing anyway so lets develop them and let them take more shots" But as a coach you’re thinking " i keep losing like this and I’m gonna lose my job so i gotta stay with the vets and the players i know can hit the shot consistently"

You want you’re rookies to do well and hit there shots but if they Aren’t hitting you Have to go with the Guys you know who are more likely to hit like iggy. There’s the possibility if you give the rookie more shots he may make more but you’re not ready to risk you’re job/the win for that hope.

[Sonny RedParticipant]

I’ve watched every Sixers game this year, but only seen Barnes play once. The game I watched of Barnes, which was this week, he didn’t do much, but you can see the level of skill he has. The most disappointing thing was his lackadaisical play, there were times when you didn’t notice he was on the court. Even Turner has been a major disappointment for me, the guy hasn’t scored double figures in his last four games combined! I get he ain’t playing the same position like he did in college, but you have to do better then that when you are the second pick in the draft, all rookies have to adjust to the NBA style. His attitude and body language on the court have shown a lot of immaturity too, he jumps up and down and waves his hand for the ball, then gets it and does nothing. His jump shot is weak, especially for a shooting guard, he also has zero confidence in his game.

[Sonny RedParticipant]

I’ve watched every Sixers game this year, but only seen Barnes play once. The game I watched of Barnes, which was this week, he didn’t do much, but you can see the level of skill he has. The most disappointing thing was his lackadaisical play, there were times when you didn’t notice he was on the court. Even Turner has been a major disappointment for me, the guy hasn’t scored double figures in his last four games combined! I get he ain’t playing the same position like he did in college, but you have to do better then that when you are the second pick in the draft, all rookies have to adjust to the NBA style. His attitude and body language on the court have shown a lot of immaturity too, he jumps up and down and waves his hand for the ball, then gets it and does nothing. His jump shot is weak, especially for a shooting guard, he also has zero confidence in his game.

[Sonny RedParticipant]

I’ve watched every Sixers game this year, but only seen Barnes play once. The game I watched of Barnes, which was this week, he didn’t do much, but you can see the level of skill he has. The most disappointing thing was his lackadaisical play, there were times when you didn’t notice he was on the court. Even Turner has been a major disappointment for me, the guy hasn’t scored double figures in his last four games combined! I get he ain’t playing the same position like he did in college, but you have to do better then that when you are the second pick in the draft, all rookies have to adjust to the NBA style. His attitude and body language on the court have shown a lot of immaturity too, he jumps up and down and waves his hand for the ball, then gets it and does nothing. His jump shot is weak, especially for a shooting guard, he also has zero confidence in his game.

[GrandmamaParticipant]

Turner obviously, although Barnes is struggling mightily he is still averaging 12ppg 6rpg 2apg……not what people expected but solid numbers from a freshman.  Once his shot starts falling his numbers and confidence will increase.  He is only shooting 34% from the field, he will get better as the season rolls along.

[GrandmamaParticipant]

Turner obviously, although Barnes is struggling mightily he is still averaging 12ppg 6rpg 2apg……not what people expected but solid numbers from a freshman.  Once his shot starts falling his numbers and confidence will increase.  He is only shooting 34% from the field, he will get better as the season rolls along.

[GrandmamaParticipant]

Turner obviously, although Barnes is struggling mightily he is still averaging 12ppg 6rpg 2apg……not what people expected but solid numbers from a freshman.  Once his shot starts falling his numbers and confidence will increase.  He is only shooting 34% from the field, he will get better as the season rolls along.

[stanford hoops]

Not really down on turner because he’s a rookie in the NBA. Much harder to do well in youre first year there against the best in the world then it is as a freshmen in college against guys you have played with or against since youre freshman year in hs (if you were on varisty since year one and playing at camps and aau like Barnes)

8pts 5reb 2ast as the number two pick in the NBA draft sharing the ball with iggy,jru holiday and elton brand

vs

12pts 6reb As the numnber one recruit in college basketball shareing with Henson,Zeller and Drew

[stanford hoops]

Not really down on turner because he’s a rookie in the NBA. Much harder to do well in youre first year there against the best in the world then it is as a freshmen in college against guys you have played with or against since youre freshman year in hs (if you were on varisty since year one and playing at camps and aau like Barnes)

8pts 5reb 2ast as the number two pick in the NBA draft sharing the ball with iggy,jru holiday and elton brand

vs

12pts 6reb As the numnber one recruit in college basketball shareing with Henson,Zeller and Drew

[stanford hoops]

Not really down on turner because he’s a rookie in the NBA. Much harder to do well in youre first year there against the best in the world then it is as a freshmen in college against guys you have played with or against since youre freshman year in hs (if you were on varisty since year one and playing at camps and aau like Barnes)

8pts 5reb 2ast as the number two pick in the NBA draft sharing the ball with iggy,jru holiday and elton brand

vs

12pts 6reb As the numnber one recruit in college basketball shareing with Henson,Zeller and Drew

[Mr. 19134Participant]

 Upadate on Turner…He came off the bench because as Collins admites he does not fit with Iggy, and scored 11 points in 19 minutes shooting 5-7 from the field including a few plays where he looked like a Brandon Roy clone like the drive on Jamal Crawford where Turner got into the lane hit him with a half spin then got raked across his right arm so he switches it to his left and hits a banker while getting failed.  The Sixers were up by 15 points in the 4th quarter when Turner went back to the bench with 9 minutes remaining.  Turner didn’t play again and the Sixers blew a 15 point lead and lose by 5.  We couldn’t score in the final 2 minutes with Iggy taking and missing shots like usual at the end of games.

Then yesterday in a route of the Bobcats Turner only played 11 minutes and only took one shot.  How does the 2nd pick in the draft coming off a very impressive performance considering his minutes, only get 11 minutes especially when we were up by 20 at one point.  

This to me in inexplicable.  Something needs to change.  Turner was the 2nd pick in the draft you got to live and die with that pick but right now they are killing themselves.  They had to know he wouldn’t mesh with Iggy.  Since they can’t take the draft back they need to find a taker for Iggy and quick because the Sixers are literally turning Turner into a bust THEMSELVES.  You have to let him play.  

Yeah he only scored 7 points in a four game span but he was averaging 13 points a game and 8 rebounds in the 5 games Iggy was out!

 

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