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Aussies fleeing NCAA in waves

An alarming trend is occuring, and it's a bad look for the NCAA.

And these are future pro players, whether internationally or in the NBA.

Several players have left their College and are looking at Pro Options.

Jonah Bolden: Left UCLA abruptly after a bad run with the NCAA, and is doing really well in Europe

Harry Froling: Left SMU as a freshman recently. Played at Nike Hoop Summit. Looking at pro options.

Tom Wilson: Left SMU shortly after Froling.

William McDowell White: Another Hoop Summit guy that just never made it through NCAA red tape. Listed as a 5-star prospect and will have pro options.

Here's a newsflash to American prospects. You don't need to be that good to play pro somewhere and earn a couple-hundred G-stacks. And you only have to watch the Ben Simmons documentary to see what attitude Aussies have about the concept of Amatuerism.

Terrence Ferguson is doing well playing pro in the Aussie League and earning good cash. I guarantee at least half a dozen American prospects will follow his lead next season.


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I find it a huge relief not

I find it a huge relief not having to scout Aussie players. Tuff titties for teams like Gonzaga and St Mary's.

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St Marys is the only one

St Marys is the only one doing it right.

Produced 2 NBA champions in the last few years and currently ranked #19 in the nation.

Extremely impressive program.

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I just hope Isaac Humphries

I just hope Isaac Humphries doesn't head out Kentucky will need him the next couple years

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I'm not sure Isaac Humphries

I'm not sure Isaac Humphries has any intention of ever turning pro. There was a time I had him pegged as the next Marc Gasol but I don't think basketball is his #1 priority.

Hes a 7footer who has opportunities through basketball, but I believe academics and creative arts are equal, if not greater priorities for him.

And it shows in his play. His talent levels significantly surpasses his current production.

Fair play to him, hes a bright, well-raised kid who will be successful im whatever he does.

But he doesnt have the drive of a street kid who needs basketball to feed his family.

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I guarantee you no 5 star

I guarantee you no 5 star prospects will be in the NBL next season. Terrence Ferguson is the biggest endorsement for those type of guys to NOT come out here. They struggle against fully grown men and their stock stagnates- Ferguson is projected to be a late first round pick at this point, whereas he was previously rivalling Malik Monk as a top 10 pick. Yeah you make some easy money now, but the dollar difference between pick 25 and pick 8 contracts is a lot bigger than any cash you are making here in Aus.

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Thats not true. Terrence

Thats not true. Terrence Ferguson has carved out a nice role for himself. Anyone that expected him to do more had unrealistic expectations.

Many international lottery picks got much less playing time in weaker leagues than the NBL.

Once again, He Gets Buckets criticism of Aussie hoops dwarfs his positivity.

The sport of basketball already gets no respect from mainstream sports fans....so we don't need local hoopers casting it in an artificially negative light

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You make it hard for me to

You make it hard for me to love you Hype, as per usual you completely missed my point. I never said I expected more out of Ferguson or that he'd be gettting more minutes in Europe, I'm saying I expected him to do this poorly because hes an 18 year old kid playing grown men. The NBL just isnt a great place to boost your stock because no matter how skilled you are, the physicality is too much for 18 year old kids. If your intention is to go NBA after a year here its not worth it if you have an offer from a top NCAA program, like Ferguson had from Arizona. He would have had more exposure there and played better because he would be playing similarly physically developed players.

The NBL is great for upperclassmen who get drafted late and need to be stashed somewhere, they get a lot of minutes and get to show their team a broad range of skills. But for your young prospects theres no reason at this point in time to spurn the NCAA unless you are absolutely desperate for money this second for your family.

And this point rings true for Europe, China, any pro league. Look at guys like Brandon Jennings and Mudiay, Jennings was the number one ranked prospect in his class coming out of highschool and slipped because other guys got exposure, Mudiay was meant to be in the top tier with Oak and KAT as the best 3 prospects in the draft and he slips out of the top 5. Going overseas just hasnt proven to help your stock at all at this point.

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The NBL hasnt traditionally

The NBL hasnt traditionally been an NBA farm league but it has the potential to be and times are changing.

I think prospects will look at Ferguson and think he made a great decision. I think NBA teams will respect his approach.

The NBL is on the rise. The TV deal is great, its expanding again and the talent is better than ever. I'm sticking with my prediction that many more will follow Fergusons lead.

And its worth remembering that first 200k to pull your family out of financial hardship is crucial. Some kids genuinely need money now, even at the risk of getting less later (which is hard to predict anyways).

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Again you completely ignore

Again you completely ignore all my points and create a different argument to respond to.

"I think NBA teams will respect his approach"

What does that even mean? They'll respect the fact that he avoided playing top level competition to go play against a bunch of guys who couldn't cut it in better quality pro leagues, then struggled mightily against them, whilst his contemparories are flourishing and proving themselves against other top tier amateur prospects?

The NBL is on the rise? The TV deal is great? I know maybe one other person out of my big group of hoop friends who has Fox Sports let alone actually watches the NBL games when they're on.

"Im sticking with my prediction"

Based on what evidence?!?! You've just completely ignored all my criticism and have not provided anything of substance back. Terrence is the only thing for other prospects to base their choice of and his escapades down under have been an unabashed failure! And on top of that, after watching Terrence be a glorified role player, do you really think that NBL teams are going to be ponying up the kind of money that these kids are going to want in order to take care of there families? China is still far and away the best option financially for these kids, the NBL simply does not have the kind of money to be throwing it at role players. You can write this down as another bet (you still owe me Dominos and KFC from our last 2 bets), NO American ranked in the top 50 will be in the NBL next season. Especially not after Ferguson drops to the late 20s of the draft.

On a seperate note, I really wish a public TV network would pick up the NBL contract. Like you said, the talent is better than ever and no matter how much I try and convince hoop heads I'm friends with to watch its just too difficult for most people. With rise of netflix and other subscription services very few people have foxtel anymore. Its a shame because theres a market to be carved out and being restricted to the ever dwindling cable TV audience is really hurting growth IMO.

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It's been a real treat to

It's been a real treat to watch Hype's points and creditability plummet in the last year.

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My track record proves I

My track record proves I could get those points back quicker than the time it takes for Superchronics to write one of his trademark 1-sentence threads.

Why don't you just save a few up and combine them into a single 140-character tweet.

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Your track record lolol your

Your track record lolol your ego maybe hahahah

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