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Are the Sixers holding Thaddeus Young back?

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Are the Sixers holding Thaddeus Young back?

Coming out of college heading into the league, Thad was as versatile of a player as they come being a 6'8'' 215lb SF who could slash and shoot. Since he has been with the Sixers organization, it appears to me that they have stunted his growth as a player by placing him on the block to bang down low. Not saying he was lights out, but his shooting numbers from outside have decreased each season over the course of 3 years, which tells me he may lost confidence in his shot.

Does he need a change of scenery? Will he ever go back to being a slasher elsewhere?


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Learning to play big isn't

Learning to play big isn't necessarily a bad thing. But he could use a change of scenery and so could the 6ers

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I feel like the 76ers have a

I feel like the 76ers have a weird way of handling players.. Like for Evan Turner, and Thadeus Young, even Iguadala . Idk if its just me but I don't see any real consistency with 76ers and there players.It seems like every year it's a different lineup, a different bench and players with new roles.In result players stats are up and down time after time.

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It's not the Sixers it's Doug

It's not the Sixers it's Doug Collins. Thad Young averaged like 15ppg his 2nd year in the league, and he took him and his versatile skill set, and made him into a PF/C off the bench playing like 25 mpg. Yes Thad plays C way more often then he plays SF. In fact he rarely ever plays SF under Collins but he will play C with Turner or Wright at PF.

The only reason Thad is starting this year is because Bynum is hurt, if not Hawes would of been the starting PF, with Turner, Richardson, and Holiday rounding out the starting 5.

The thing about Thad is that he's actually very effective playing PF and it might possibly be his best position, especially if he played on a more uptempo team that pushes the pace next to a shot blocking C.

Jrue Holiday's emergence this year is all the more surprising because of the way Collins uses his players. It's similar to how UCLA or G'Town would run a slowed down system making it hard to judge a player on stats alone. The same can be said about how Collins run things. Turner for instance is very hard to judge because of this.

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I don't have a link but I

I don't have a link but I know a few years ago Doug Collins asked Thaddeus Young to cut down on taking three point shots. It seemed somewhat odd to me because obviously Thad was an effective shooter earlier in his career, but now his game has been molded solely to play power forward. I think Thad could be an effective small forward if given the chance to do that again, but I don't see that happening while Doug Collins is coaching the 76ers.

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IDK

A lot of times people blame the system or the team for a player not progressing, but I think some players just get complacent with being a solid NBA player. Hey, he signed a 5yr contract extension at the end of 2011 so it's not like he wanted to really take his game to the next level and be "THE MAN" on another team, even though it would seem he has the potential for it.

As fans we sometimes forget that most pro athletes look at playing as a job. And just like most us, if we can make good money without having to put in too much extra work we're cool with that. Everybody doesn't want to be a star player or a company CEO, it takes a lot of hard work. Take James Harden for example, who WANTED to be the MAN but will have to continuously work on his game because he now has the responsibility of leading his team.

As far as Thad though, I don't think he is being held back, he just hasn't put in the work as a player to progress. He hasn't worked on his handle (which contributes to his low FT attempts) or his J. Hate to say it but he pretty much is what he is, even with his youth and athleticism, because he doesn't have the mindset of a star player.

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I completely agree with your

I completely agree with your point about not everybody wanting to be the man, but that does not apply to Thad Young one bit.

Thad begged for the last few years for his starting job back and finally got it. He's been the Sixers most consistent player this year on both sides of the ball and works his tail off in the offseason.

Thad in fact last summer just had a new house completed in Memphis with a full sized built in basketball court. The guy lives and breathes basketball. He usuallly reports to training camp around 240 with 4% body fat, and in impressive shape by all means. He might be the hardest worker on the Sixers.

If you put Thad Young on the Bobcats he's probably averaging closer to 20ppg. The system the Sixers run, is slow ugly and sloppy and has seemingly affected everybody performance except to Holiday's. Even Nick Young is having trouble scoring in this system.

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YUP

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I certainly don't think that

I certainly don't think that Collins told him to become a worse shooter. His best position is as a small ball PF because his best attribute is slashing and taking bigs off the dribble. At SF, that ability is less of an advantage. To complement that type of game, he still would need a jumper. Becoming a worse shooter is on Thad.

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No coach has ever asked a

No coach has ever asked a player to shoot worse obviously. I know that Doug Collins asked Thad to stop shooting three pointers.

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Thad didn't become a worse

Thad didn't become a worse shooter, his shooting %'s are up, except for FT because of the 15 pounds of muscle he added coming into this season. And I'd argue that Collins should encourage him to take more long shots, just to keep the defense more honest, because Thad is one if not the quickest forward in the league, and the closer the defender plays him, the less chance they have of stopping his assault to the rim.

Also if he were to play SF, he'd be abusing defenders in the post and on the perimeter SF's would still have trouble keeping up with his quickness.

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His mid-range jumper is down

His mid-range jumper is down from 39% to 32%. That's where he shoots the majority of his jumpers since he doesn't take 3's anymore.

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Sorry I don't have access to

Sorry I don't have access to Synergy. But his mid range shot has been off this year as has his foul shooting. I think this has to do with the extra muscle, and the fact he spend all summer working on his long ball, because going off the eye test his shot looks much improved overall, and he looks comfortable shooting it from distance, more so then since his sophomore year.

Thad could be a 35% 3pt shooter taking over 2 per game if he was allowed the opp.

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Thad isn't being used right,

Thad isn't being used right, the guy is a walking mismatch; too big for threes and WAY too fast for bigs. Put him on a running team like Houston and watch him put up close to 20.

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I love Thad but the reason he

I love Thad but the reason he isn't a consistent scorer is because he doesn't have a consistent jumpshot. He won't put up 20 a game for anybody but he is a great glue guy. He plays hard every night and is a mismatch with his quickness at the 4. He never plays the 3 anymore for a reason...he can't really shoot or handle the ball outside of attacking the rim with his left hand. Iggy had consecutive years in Philly 18, 20, 19 and 17 PPG and once Collins was hired his average dipped to 14 PPG. Doug is a very good defensive coach but offensively he leaves a lot to be desired. The truth is that Doug wants to run but this team can't get stops, cause turnovers or block shots to start the fast break this year. The reason Holiday is having a breakout year is simple...he is the one consistent shooter they have. Turner has improved his shot but still isn't really considered a reliable shooter. Richardson has been hurt most of the season. Nick Young can get hot but can also shoot you out of a game in a hurry. Holiday is the guy they go to at the end of the clock and when they need a bucket for a reason. He is their best shooter and for the most part jumpshooting is a key to scoring consistently in the NBA. This team was designed to revolve around Bynum but since that isn't the case they are really struggling...they have major issues scoring in the half court sets which I completely anticipated after losing Lou Williams and even Iggy.

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