Anyone liking Nerlens at #1
12p - 9r - 2a - 3blocks - 3steals
He is putting better stats than Andre Drummond as well and considering he is a PF, he projects as quite the athlete and defender at the 4.
Another thing i liked a lot is the toughness he's shown in court, very serious/ professional demeanor and concentrated at all times.
But he'd be an excellent playmate for cousins. However again, I'm not excited as a Kings fan to take another first class trip into the lottery.
I'm not sure; you usually want your #1 overall draft pick to come in and make a big impact and change the culture of the team: I don't think Nerlens can come in and make a huge impact on both ends of the court right away.
At this point i like Alex Len a little more. Len might not be the defensive phenom that Noel is but hes a pretty decent rim protector(Led the ACC in block shots per 40 minute last year). He runs the floor, has great length, and the biggest reason though is his ability to play with his back to the basket. I think hes one of the most well rounded C prospects to come out in a while.
As long as you do not expect him to score for you then he will be an asset to your team. Also I think he will improve by the end of the year. Coach Cal helps his players making winning plays and his players get better over the course of the year. Ask me this again at the end of January. he is extremely quick and long and in the new NBA he will be a center who can pick and roll and finish at the rim. He can run the floor and block shots and rebound. By doing that he will be successful and be a good NBA player at the very least.
Alex Lin is an excellent basketball player. I like him as well!
4 games against Maryland, Duke, ND, and Baylor (1-3)- 31.8 minutes, 34.1 percent shooting, 3.5 off reb, 10 reb, 1.25 ast, 3.5 stl, 2 blk, .8 tos, 3.3 pfs, 9.5 pts
4 games against Lafayette, Morehead St, LIU Brooklyn, and Samford (combined 11-23 with 4 of those wins coming over one another)- 29.5 minutes, 77.4 percent shooting, 2.5 off reb, 8 reb, 3.3 ast, 2.3 stl, 4.3 blk, 2.5 to, 2.5 pfs, 13.8 pts
I see many more games against big conference teams, and just a handful of Portland, Lipscombs, and Eastern Michigans left. He was outplayed by Alex Len, Mason Plumlee, Jack Cooley, and Isaiah Austin, not to mention looked smaller than all of them, most startingly was when he was shoulder to shoulder with Jack Cooley and appearing to be at least twenty pounds lighter. It is a long season, and Kentucky is young across the board, but I would not categorize this as a good start for Nerlens Noel. Beyond just the start, I just don't think he is that big. Andre Drummond and guys who are playing at probably a legit 6'11 and 300 lbs as well as have tremendous athleticism get a degree of latitude that guys who are 6' 9 or 6' 10 and maybe 215 lbs simply do not.
thats definitely who i would draft #1..nerlens all day..i think his situation is similar to shabbaz @ ucla...once the season starts rolling noel will break out..once they play florida and teams like that and hes going head to head with guys like patrick young then that will be the tell tale..but id take him #1 no doubt
YES I DO.
the best defensive big in passing lanes in years, most like second best shot blocker and overall comparable with Drummond for top3 defensive prospect in last couple years, also he "had" one hole even defensively rebounding and now he is a double double guy almost.. and still not shy away to say he is easily the best passing C since Monroe(if we call him C) ..and offense will come, he might not have great touch but his explosiveness and overall athleticism is just GREAT..his length is close too, and 228 doesn't scare me at all, he looks to be working hard I mean since Nike Hoop Summit he gained 12lbs, since previous summer in just over a year 27lbs! he will easily be in 240s one day..and don't underrated his move at least of the dribble..
looks like more athletic and potentially even better defensivelly Joakim Noah, what means a star, i mean Noah is a bordeline allstar this year for sure
If noel gets drafted over zeller the GM who makes that decision should be fired immediately
actually i would be pretty surprised if he gets drafted top5
whatttt? why would that be bad? hes WAY better than zeller cmon
I didn't like Nerlens in the top-3 before the season started and I definitely don't like him in the top-3 now.
I'm not sure he's even the best prospect on Kentucky I wouldn't be surprised to see Goodwin leap him on Mocks. I'm also not sold on Noels being a better prospect then Austin who outplayed Nerlens and is clearly longer and more skilled on offense.
i doubt Sacramento picks 1st.. they've been in the lottery almost every year.. the last time they picked 1st.. 1989.. if only Andrew Wiggins were to be available, i think they should tank the whole season just to get a shot at him or maybe even a Jabari Parker.. i like Marcus Smart! built like a linebacker.. Smart Coach, Smart Player LOL
As far as post players are concerned, I'd take him after Cody Zeller, and Alex Len.
basketballjunkie - zellers got a chance to be a pau gasol type player and doesn't have such a low floor like nerlens. Noel is obviously better at defense but thats his strong suit and its not like zellers a slouch. They are both probably equal at rebounding and obviously zeller has the advantage with post moves and all around offense in general. Also after watching nerlens a couple times he doesn't have quite the basketball IQ or instincts i would want with a number 1 pick. another advantage for zeller is he's single handed brought the Indiana program back in less than 2 years. noel doesn't seem to have a leadership role or want one so far.
how in the world he can be Pau please tell me maybe im missing something..
he is 1-2 inch shorter not to mention close to 1foot shorter wingspan, his athleticism might even be overrated, he isn't strong or tough, and his rebounding and defense isn't his strength either..
my comparison for Cody Zeller would be Tyler Zeller..
first of all you need to relax, cody is by far going to be better than tyler. and have you not seen him play at all this year? He's gotten a little taller, probably a solid 7 feet and is probably around 250. To be clear im not a cody zeller fan at all, just simply think he should be rated ahead of noel and that he's got potential to be a legit player in the league. Anyways, from what ive seen this year hes got a nice looking shot, can create his own shot easily in the post, is much more athletic and aggressive on offense and defense than you give him credit for, and has the basketball IQ a big man needs. were probably just gonna have to agree to disagree but last i checked he was the best player on the number 1 team right now...something tyler zeller could have never said
I have not seen much of his play this season as I live in the UK so getting to see the "other UK" games is limited to what I see online effectively. Noel is still a work in progress and whilst he would not strike me as a top 3 guy at this moment, he has a proven "one and done" coach guiding him plus is on a powerhouse team so I would not see him falling that far if he declares this year. Add on that he'll measure out well at combine then it makes his downside in the draft fairly limited.
With players like Noel I don't worry too much about concerns regarding his offensive game at the moment, his main draft value will be on defence as a paint defender and shot changer. What he does on offence is a bonus and players like him develop offence as their career goes on or they are fed easily baskets to keep them interested. Look at a player like Tyson Chandler who does not average 10ppg in his NBA career but has huge value for his defensive play, likewise Marcus Camby has had a very successful career as a defensive specialist.
I agree that Nerlens would really need to be a two way player to go top 3 but don't see him falling outside the top 10.
Any1 taking in consideration Nerlens is a fresh. Cody Zeller and Alex Len are both Sophmore. Alex Len didn't do much freshman year. If Nerlens were to stay he would have a Much better season next year,
he's gonna be an elite shot blocker. Although 'he leaves his spot' and sometimes is not there to boxout... He can almost contest every inside shot in the game and is still averaging 9rebs. He' s playing better than I thought he would actually.
Last Year, This Far Into The Season:
Anthony Davis stats: ....................12.2 points - 9 rebounds - 1 assist - 4.5 blocks - 1.3 steals
Compared to Nerlens Noel:........ 11.6 points - 9 rebounds - 2 assist - 3 blocks - 3 steals
Last Year, This Far Into The season:...... I was getting negged like Crazy for saying Davis was gonna be the number 1 pick
Yes sire. People here refused to see the obvious that Anthony Davis was the number #1 pick from day one last season and it seems that Noel is in the same situation this one. Don't get me wrong I'm not as sold on Noel as I was Davis at this point of the season but I see Noel as the #1 pick he should be. The other potential number #1 picks I see are Zeller, Gorbet, and Austin. It will be hard for Bazz to take number #1 because as history shows wing players very rarely get drafted #1.
I still like Shabazz at # 1 out of this draft...he isnt putting up great stats at UCLA but who does? Just look at players like Westbrook and Jrue Holiday who didn't do much at UCLA but are doing good things in the NBA. I think he is going to be a star in the NBA and in my opinion this is a weak draft. I admit I have not seen Len much at all this year but I would take Shabazz over Noel or Cody Zeller
I've seen a lot of posts like these recently and I don't know why. What is wrong with Shabazz' line? Is he not being productive?
He's putting up 16/6 on good %'s from the floor in less than 28 mpg.
Noel really doesn't seem like a franchise player type talent man. He has struggled in all the quality games Ive seen. He gets outsmarted and struggles with offense in general other than athletic finishes and finds himself out of position alot on defense, even though he blocks some of that. He really needs another year at UK
I like him as well!
JNixon has probably hit it on the head as usual by correctly stating that Noel does not look a potential franchise changer which you'd probably look for from a top 3 pick. That being said guys who could be excellent at one facet of the game or good complimentary players can skill go high, look at MKG this year and Tristian Thompson was never considered a franchise changer but got taken at number 4 last year,
If teams cannot get a potential superstar or need a solid running mate for him then that is where I see them looking at a guy like Noel, you either use him as a specialist complimentary support to a star player or build via the draft by taking solid picks and getting the right mix without having that X-Factor player.