Is anybody else sick of Ray Allen just yet?
Ray Allen left despite no-trade clause
Updated: October 25, 2012, 7:49 PM ET
By Jackie MacMullan | ESPNBoston.com
Celtics president of basketball operations Danny Ainge told ESPNBoston.com on Thursday that in addition to offering Allen twice as much money (two years, $12 million) as Miami did (two years, $6 million) to stay in Boston, he also added a no-trade clause to the contract.
Ainge said he was aware of Allen's frustration at constantly being mentioned in potential swaps during his time with the Celtics.
"I knew the (trade rumors) had been weighing on him," Ainge said.
For his part, Allen mentioned several specific instances of proposed deals he was included in, but there was no one reason that led to Allen's change of heart about Boston. Rather, it was the cumulative result of what he viewed as an erosion of his value to the team. The no-trade clause wasn't enough, nor was the $6 million a year, which would have left him as the fifth-highest paid Celtic behind Kevin Garnett, Rajon Rondo, Paul Pierce and Jeff Green. That, too, was a problem. Minutes were an issue, and so was his lack of touches. Allen had lost faith in coach Doc Rivers, his old golfing partner, who minimized his role in the offense.
When Allen decided to accept the Heat's offer, he called Ainge, texted Garnett and left town.
"Two years ago when I was a free agent, the whole organization sent me a text asking me to come back," Allen said. "This time it was a little more subdued."
This time, while Pierce and Garnett texted their support and Ainge initiated the dialogue at the stroke of midnight, Rivers stayed out of the negotiations. Their relationship, once strong, faltered in Allen's final months wearing Celtic green.
"Doc never called and said, 'We want you to come back,'" Allen said. "I can't say I expected him to do that. It's hard to say what the protocol is in those situations."
As for the constant uncertainty regarding trades, Allen said, talks began within months of his arrival in Boston. According to Allen, during that 2007-08 season, which resulted in a championship for the Celtics, Boston discussed a swap of Allen for Tracy McGrady.
"I got word of it through back channels," Allen said.
Two years later, he said, he got word that both he and Eddie House were on the block. House was the one to go, to the New York Knicks for Nate Robinson. There was the aforementioned dalliance with Phoenix in 2009, and then last season, Allen was nearly traded to Memphis for O.J. Mayo.
The team was in San Francisco on their West Coast swing when Allen got a call from Ainge at around 12:15 p.m., the afternoon of the trade deadline.
"Danny told me he had a deal on the table for me to go to Memphis for O.J. Mayo and he asked me what I thought," Allen said. "I told him I didn't like it. I told him I didn't want to leave Boston. He said, 'I hope you understand my position.' I said, 'I know you have to build this team for the future, but I'm not happy about it.'"
Allen called his family and instructed them to pack their things. Instead, 45 minutes later Ainge called back to say the deal was off.
"I went to Paul's room and he said, 'Damn, I almost got traded to New Jersey,' and I told him, 'I thought I did get traded to Memphis,"' Allen said. "What could we do? We just laughed about it."
Ainge acknowledged Allen's version of events regarding talks with Memphis, but claimed Pierce "was never going to New Jersey."
"The Nets had a No. 3 pick and they talked to us for about 30 seconds about Paul," Ainge said. "It was never close."
He is a pre-madonna. Ray Allen wants to be pampered, treated like he is a 28 year old Super Star. The Celtics went way out of its way for him and it still wasn't enough. So now he is going to a team for less money, also less minutes.
I'm glad Allen left, why should he have to show loyalty to a team that has been trying to trade him and nearly trade him to Memphis this season? It wasn't about the money to ray as he took a 50% pay cut it was the fact that he felt more like an asset than a part of the team and he went I miami that really wanted him to be a major factor on their team. I think it was too late for Ainge to try and give Allen a no trade clause as the damage to Ray was already done after countless rumors with his name in it.
Considering Allen didn't say anything, an article was written about him, no I'm not sick of him. People turn on guys so quickly these days (not referring to anyone specific).
A no trade clause? It'd be nice for a vet like Allen to have control over his future but I don't think this is much news, just everything we've been hearing until now.
I know an athlete is entitled to go where they please and look out for themselves, but man as a fan even as a fan who hates both the celtics and heat, i just dont lke seeing guys join their most bitter rival like that immediately after getting elimnated. The fact he turned down cash and i really dont see increased minutes in miami either and it really doesnt quite taste right. But whatever. The heat were on crazy fire from three during the finals with battier, miller and chalmers all dropping them so its not like they won the ring despite three-point shooting. So even if he is a great shooter, its not like they will shoot better from three as a team then they did in the finals, or at least its very doubtful.
I'm Celtics fan. The main issue have is him actually choosing to sign with our Rivals. People will being clowning on Ray Allen forever if the Celtics take the east this year. Eff him... #HatersGonHate
Oh what so he can't choose the team he wants to sign to? He wants to win another title or two before he retires to cement his legacy a little more. Miami is the reigning champions and best team in the NBA so that is his best chance to win a title. Do you just expect him to sign with the Bobcats or someone out of respect for a team he played for for 5 seasons and doesnt want to hurt their title chances? "Oh I love a franchise and owner that tried to trade me so I'm going to go play for the worst team in the NBA out of respect for them." Allen did nothing wrong, it's just bitter fans like you upset he went to the best team in the NBA that happens to be your rival.
At the end of the day, Ray Allen is a grown man who can do whatever he wants and join whatever team he pleases. more power to him.
I'm a Celtics fan. The main issue have is him actually choosing to sign with our Rivals. People will be clowning on Ray Allen forever if the Celtics take the east this year. Lets say a significant player on your team joined his Rivals. You definitely wouldn't be cool with it then or you were never a fan of your team in the first place. Eff him... #HatersGonHate
Igetbuckets99. He is not crying foul play. We are glad he is gone. He turned it over a ton. Terry is the better player right now. He would have played more on the C's too. He wont get as many shots but he should get quality shots.
Ray Allen went to miami to get a quick ring...i hope he doesn't win another ringI cannot stand "bandwagon" players.. no shade, just being realistic
It's his life, let him live it. Players want to have as many accolades as they can achieve so that they have memories of what they did and so people remember them. He wants another title, something he likely wouldnt win in Boston.
I'm 100% sick of all this whining and talking about the past and basically trying to throw the Celtics organization under the bus. Just quit talking about it Ray. You moved on, they moved on and thats just what it is. Yeah you were involved in trade discussions several times but last time i checked NBA, MLB, and NFL are businesses. Thats just how it goes. The same thing happens all of the time in other sports. So he wants to try to ride the coat tails of Lebron to another title for half as much money. If thats what he wanted good, the celtics found several very good replacements. Hope Ray goes into a season long shooting funk. Not likely with that stroke, but i can hope.
celtics "fans" are so silly
Ray helped the Celtics to their best 5 years since the Larry Bird era and he took less money to go to another team for what he considers basketball reasons so he has hardly done anything wrong. The Celtics went out and replaced him mainly with Jason Terry which at this stage of their careers is a fairly like for like replacement.
The only issue apart from the trade rumours could have been was Ray not prepared to play behind Avery Bradley as happened on occasions last season but from an ego point of view, it is much easier to play behind D-Wade who is an established franchise player. Ray got his title in Boston and like all players, I'm sure he'd like more but it is not as if he needs to actively chase a title in his veteran years.
He'll be on the Lakers next year.