Any 20ppg players in this Next Draft?
Not that this is the bench mark of greatness, but this past draft current leader is avr 15ppg i believe. So out of all of these players coming out who has potential of getting 20 or 20+ppg. I think it all depends on the situation that each player get's drafted into. But from skill set I think there are 2 players. Maybe not their Rookie year but sometime in their Career.
DWill has the game to get 20-21ppg
Alec Burk can also be in that Range if he is drafted by a team that will allow him to shoot. 20-21ppg
Yall are going to hate me but:
UCLA has been known to hide a player's true offensive ability with their team concept... I think that this kid will be a steal if he is taken outside the Top 10.. He can really create for himself and has an offensive game that can be like a poor Joe Johnson if he is in the right situation...
I think Harrison Barnes could do it for a few years. People hated him in the beginning of the year because he wasn't living up to his huge hype. He has improved substantially since day. He may not get there because he isn't a selfish player though.
More than his game i liked his story line. Single Parent Home & smart kid. He was reading a copy of Millionare next door as a Senior. He should do well in L. I hope he gets to that 20-22ppg stage.
If he gets confidence in summer league he will be fed the ball in the NBA. His guards were jackers in college. None of them could pass and struggled to dribble wich led to the teams biggest problems being turnovers.
European players... I feel they are the key to this classes success
I like the point scout4real made about Perry Jones. I think he will land in the Washington Wizards organization for some reason, and playing alongside John Wall would be a huge upgrade from playing alongside Dunn. Yet I do not think he will ever average 20-ppg in the league unless he extends his range.
Sullinger, Kanter, Barnes, Williams, Burks, and Motiejunas have the skills and potential to average 20-ppg in the league but would have to find the perfect team to play with and be given plenty of oppurtunity to suceed. personall I think Sullinger and Barnes will be the only 2 to do it more then once.
The more I see of Burks...the more I like. I think he is going to climb the draft board. He can just flat out score.
Derrick Willims is a guy who I think will be a perenial 20ppg player. His offensive skills are so advanced for him not to be.
I'd say Sullinger has the potential to be a 20 +ppg scorer someday. Derrick Williams, if he pans out, will be a 20ppg scorer, as mentioned in this thread, his offensive skill is very large.
Jimmer Fredette has that Mark Price look about him, he could be a borderline 20ppg guy also.
Perry Harrison offcourse leads the way..there is big IF but they can be much better even than 20ppg ...then you will never know Sully DWill Kyrie Kanter Motiejunas all have skills..sleepers are Knight and Kemba cause we are looking at them like at guys who won't translate well but who knows..like who thought 2nd rounder Gilbert Arenas will score 29ppg for two straight years or M.Redd for example..
Sullinger sprang to mind when I read the thread, Williams again I'd agree should have 20ppg seasons in his NBA career.
Jones would need to be the number one option to be a 20 point per game scorer, and that's only if he develops as many of you draftheads project. Walker and Fredette would need major green lights as well. None of those three are likely to ever pull 20 a game.
Hamilton and Burks are second/third scoring options, best case scenario.
Jonas Valanciunas and Jan Vesely make their money on the defensive end. That doesn't mean they can't improve offensively, but they won't be premier scorers in the NBA.
Tyler Honeycutt is an interesting mention. I love his skill set, and if he's taken out of the lottery he will be a steal. Still he hasn't proven to me he has that kind of scoring potential. He's averaging 12.6 points a game in 34.9 minutes on only 40.7% shooting from the field. I don't see Joe Johnson, maybe Josh Childress (the site's comparison).
Brandon Knight is a nice darkhorse. I haven't had the chance to see him play much, so I can't really comment.
Motie, Kantar, Barnes and Williams all have the stuff. Still, a lot has to go right for them to hit 20 ppg for an entire season. Nobody is a lock in this year's crappy draft, but those four have the best chance. No opinion on Sullinger yet. I want to see how he performs in the tourney.
@ middletonvb :who arethe big 3 European platers?there is actually 4 European players:Jonas,Donatas,Vesley&Kanter
for me I think there will be a lot of good scorers in this draft,Burks,Sullinger,Barnes, Perry &Williams All has the potential to be good scorers
Also all the 4 Kanter,Donates and Jonas have a huge potential as scorers ,Donatas is the best scorer out of the international player but his defense,rebouding could limit his minutes
if i have to pick few of them:Burks,Donatas&williams
Burks can be a team's go-to guy. People are still selling him short.
Tyler Honeycutt is one of those players who don't know how talanted they are, Honeycutt could do much more offensively, he just need to recognize how good he is. in the NBA i don't know if he 20-ppg player, but 16-17 ppg for sure he could be. he remind me in his game a lot of Dorrel Wright who just this season broke out.
There are always surprises. Hamilton actually could manage to be a 20 ppg scorer if he continues to play as he did the first half of the season and stop taking bad shots.
I've watched almost all these prospects minus the Euros...Perry Jones will become an Lamarcus Aldridge type PF, Barnes can be Luol Deng, Kyrie could become a CP3 look a like in the League, Burke is a great scoring combo guard much like D Wade minus the athletism, Williams has been compared to David West and Michael Beasley both 20 point scorers...then you have Knight a pure shooter and scoring machine, Fredette a Sharp shooter perfect for the Triangle based offense, Walker looks like a better Ben Gordon minus the range right now, Sullinger who I'm not that high on as a pro player can be a beast down low at times, and could be a Boozer type Pf if he gets the mid range jumper down packed, I think he's more like Glen Davis...I keep saying this and I will one more time, Honeycutt is a championship Sf in the nba, he needs a team like the Pistons a few years back to really show people on this site how to sleep on great role players in the draft...Hamilton is a good scorer and could make it his job to score for an nba team or two...
I absolutly LOVE Honeycutt's game and have often compared him to Andre Iguodala given he develops properly. Not sure he'll ever be quite the level of shooter/scorer that Joe is. As of right now, he reminds me mostly of Nicolas Batum. Very similar skillset,athleticism, and builds. Hopefully he can stay another year and become more fundamentally sound, though getting out of the UCLA system would probably do best for him to develop his one on one skills.
So you are saying, in this draft we are going to get:
Wow... Better draft than everyone is saying...
I am glad that other people see Honeycutt like I do... LoL... I was starting to feel a little crazy..
Burks may/may not have Wade's athleticism but believe me it's elite.
Aran has it as a 9, too.
Perry Jones is too soft and has really weak post moves. And has no range on his shot to be a SF.
I can't see him doing well in the NBA. I really can't.
He doesn't have a position.
He better learn how to shoot or learn some legit post moves and toughen up.
Otherwise, he's Anthony Randolph 2.0.
Or Jared Jeffries.
Yeah, that's a good comp, too.
Perry Jones has a decent looking jumper, and has the length and athletic ability to play Pf full time...he will a year or two in the league before he blows up...Burks just looks like a good guard in the league, I'm very high on Burks as a possible dark horse pick in the top 5...the draft is actually stacked compared to previous years...
My potential 20ppg guys in order of probability (in my mind)
My Sleeper: Tristan Thompson
Jimmer is starting to become overrated, there is NO WAY he is a 20 ppg scorer in the NBA... For several reasons..
1. I don't believe even with his craftiness he will be able to consistently get his shot off against NBA PG..
2. He's height and lack of athleticism will not allow him to finish in the league like he does in the Mountain West..
3. His lack of foot speed will hinder him on defense, so I feel he will be a liability on D.. With that said I don't see him as a starter in the NBA because of his lack of defense..
One more thing STOP the Mark Price comparison... Mark Price was a true PG with the ability to run a team at a very efficient level.. Price was more of a jump shooter, he was never a huge slasher.. Price was a pass first PG with one of the greatest looking strokes in NBA history..
Other than Jimmer, that's a great list, Providence.
I think its funny how much you guys flip flop on prospects all year, come draft time you'll be praising Jimmer, Jones III, Barnes, Honeycutt, Williams and Burks , they'll be good players and you'll be apologizing later...
Come on man, dont compare Jimemr to Stockton. Maybe you can compare Nash to Stockton but then again Stockton was a way better defender, other then that you cant really compare anyone to him. Jimmer is nothing like Stockton, he is a shoot first, scoring minded player. I like the Chauncey Billups comparison, and I think that just like Curry people will sleep on him and regret it.
He might get 20ppg one season.
I never compared Jimmer to John Stockton, I said that Utah would draft him with hopes he can become a Stockton like Pg next to Favors, Devin Harris and Paul Millsap could be traded at some point...I feel like Jimmer, Hayward, Favors and Jefferson will be the core guys in Utah going forward, they real just need a Sharp shooting 2 or lock down Sf to have a close resemblence to the old school jazz that challenged the Bulls in the 90's...
I shouldve added probality's to my list but I doubt any of these guys will break 17 or 18 ppg their first season. If you are looking in the order of who will do it first my list would look like this
I think in the end maybe 4 of these guys will get to 20 for at least one year