I'll start by saying that I never understood the hype behind Anthony Davis. I watched him play multiple times and to say I was underwhelmed is an understatement. With his weight issues, he'll have trouble in the post throughout his career. Some people think he can supposedly play the 3 for some short stretches but I haven't seen anything that tells me he'll be able to do so. Even with his low weight, he doesn't look all that quick or athletic.
Anthony Bennett is the opposite of Davis. Apparently, he recorded a 39" vertical, which is phenomenal for a guy his size. Not only is he super athletic and quick, he's around 6'7" and weighs 255 pounds! Bennett played in the perimeter for much of his freshman season and converted on an impressive 38% from threes after attempting an average of 3 per game. He's very explosive and has shown flashes in the preseason.
Call me a homer if you will, I'll take Bennett over Davis. Just because Davis is taller doesn't mean he'll dominate Bennett. Besides, they only have like 4" difference in their standing reach but Bennett has like 40 pounds on Davis.
I don't think you have watched Anthony Davis play.
Is this a joke? Did you not watch Anthony Davis win national player of the year and dominate on the defensive end while leading Kentucky to a national championship? Anthony Bennett super athletic and quick??? He's a solid athlete but nothing spectacular. One of the most puzzling posts I have ever seen...
Yeah, he's obviously a trolling homer. There's a reason he averages over -1 points per post.
Davis is going to be special. His ability to finish above the rim, shoot from distance, and defend with the best of them is going to take him far in the league. I still need to be convinced that Bennett has the motor to improve his play or to even give 100% on more than just offense.
Davis isn't that athletic or quick? I think you're confusing him for the out of shape Bennett...
Larry Johnson is decent player to be compared to for Bennett. Anthony Davis is being mentioned with THE TWO BEST POWER FORWARDS OF ALL TIME - Duncan/KG!! There is a reason for this.
If the league started over and had a draft it would go Bron, KD and then I don't think I am overstating that Davis would go top 10 or somewhere very close to that.
It would probaly go:
1. LeBron James
2. Kevin Durant
3. Chris Paul
4. Kyrie Irving
5. Anthony Davis
6. Dwight Howard
7. James Harden
8. Dwyane Wade
9. Paul George
10. Blake Griffin
Davis has the ability to establish himself as a franchise player by the end of his rookie contract, if not earlier. His efficiency last year as a rookie was only paralleled by all-stars and all-time greats. His ability as a cutter of the ball, especially on the pick-and-roll, and his developing post-up and face-up game give him the potential to develop into a 20 ppg scorer in time. His coordination and understanding of the game is elite for a young big man.
Bennett is an intriguing scorer with explosive finishing ability at the rim, but he has a whole host of question marks about his game that will likely lead to disappointment for any Cavs fans expecting him to live up to the traditional expectations placed upon a first round pick. Bennett's injury and conditioning concerns are not insignificant. While Davis missed time with injury last year, he has a physique that should improve over time and has not suffered any significant injuries. Bennett's shoulder issues, asthma, and conditioning issues are fairly significant.
In addition to health concerns, Bennett has yet to show the motor, two-way intensity, or general understanding of the game that Davis has. While Bennett has solid physical tools to defend the four, he will almost certainly never be the defender Davis is, and will likely be a liability on defense for at least the early parts of his career. And on offense, Bennett is much more reliant on creating his own offense than Davis, but he still will likely always be the inferior interior scorer. Bennett could develop into a Paul Millsap-type offensive player, but he could also be the next Derrick Williams (although I don't think he will be that bad).
Anthony Bennett is a mix of Rodney Rodgers/Anthony Mason, a prime Larry Johnson would have murdered Bennett on the court.
Anthony Davis is a mix of Kevin Garnett/Marcus Camby & Tim Duncan, I'll take Davis over Bennet anyday!!
That is just insane though to compare Davis to a mix between two of the greatest big men to ever play the game and an absolute beast defender.
This guy is obliviously massively underrating Davis but you are making one hell of a call on Davis.
I think Davis came in the league and he was a step behind what many expected in terms of skills development, especially on the offensive end. That being said he has all the tools and the potential to be a franchise player if everything goes in the right direction. Obviously he's got a lot of work to do and I don't know if his structure will allow him to add a lot of weight and strength without losing anything in terms of athleticism, but aanyways, even if he doesn't improve at all, he's still a very valuable player and a game changer at least on the defensive end because of his versatility (he can guard multiple positions, he can switch on pick and rolls, he blocks shots, makes plays etc).
Bennett is a very good player, I like him a lot, I always thought he was a bit underrated and a potential all star, but I don't think he has any chance at all to be a franchise guy.
Anthony Bennett would be unstoppable if he didn't have lousy genetics.
That's laughable, are you kidding me? Have you seen him play? Once he gets used to the NBA game, he'll be unstoppable. He's got a Shaquille type of body. Genetics where very kind to him, actually.
I'd go with Anthony morrow over both of them. And I think it's safe to say that of there was a draft today morrow would go 2 behind bird man
Are you unaware or just ignoring the fact that after the All-Star Break Davis dropped 15.3 ppg 9.3 rpg 1.5 bpg 1.2 spg while shooting 52% from the field and 81% from the stripe as a 19 and 20 year old?
Bennett is actually 3 days younger than Davis and during that time ( The 9 games after 2-13-13 ) at the same age, Bennett dropped 12.2 ppg 7.7 rpg .45 spg 1.5 bpg on 53% from the field and 46% from the stripe against NCAA competition.
Literally, two players at the same age playing at the same time and Davis was putting up superior numbers against NBA players compared to what Bennett was doing against NCAA competition.
After mid - Feb, Bennett's best game was against Air Force where he torched them for 23 points and 7 rebounds while Davis' was when he dropped 20 points and pulled down 18 rebounds against the Memphis Grizzlies and against defensive player of the year Marc Gasol.
Didn't you or another person on this board say that you can't compare college stats to NBA stats? Why don't we compare Davis freshman stats to Bennetts freshman stats?
PPG - 14.2
RPG - 10.2
APG - 1.3
BLK - 4.7
STL - 1.4
FT % - 71
FG % - 62
3P % - 15 (20 attempts)
MPG - 32
Games - 40
PPG - 16
RPG - 8
APG - 1
BLK - 1.2
STL - 0.7
FT % - 70
FG % - 53
3P % - 37.5 (96 attempts)
MPG - 27
Games - 35
Bennett played 5 less minutes per game. Davis had that ridiculous 4 blocks per game but that didn't quite translate to the NBA eh?
Nice sassy comment, but Davis was 11th in the NBA in blocked shots this season at 1.75 per game and if there's 300 players in the NBA that's roughly the top 3% of the entire NBA in blocked shots per game as a 19 and 20 year old.
You missed my point dude, they're the same age. While Bennett was having a nice freshman season at UNLV, Davis was having an arguably better rookie season, definitely the 2nd half of the year.
You're the biggest Bennett homer on this site, but I feel like you're completely ignoring anything that Davis did. The numbers you bring up Davis has the edge on rebounds, assists, blocks, steals, FG%, FT%, and he was doing it while Bennett was playing high school ball at the same age.
I forgot again, did Anthony Bennett win all of the NPOY awards? Or DPOY? Or the POY in his own conference? Also, did he lead his team to a national championship? You say that Bennett's weight will mean more than Davis' length, just do not see it happening. An inch is one thing, but 4 inches tends to equal a height advantage. To go along with a speed advantage, as well.
Think the thing you try to point out is Bennett being more of a long range shooter. The issue with that is, how many three pointers does a player tend to make in a game? You have those games where you get 4-5, sometimes even upwards of that. Yet, law of averages dictates, you are not making more than a couple a game for a PF, at most. Add in that Davis played in a better conference, think your point lacks quite a bit of substance.
If we used college numbers as a gauge of someones future NBA success, than Michael Beasley would be running circles around both of these guys as prospects. The thing is, it is sort of ridiculous to do so. You combine that with height, length, athleticism, skill set and intangible factors. Bennett may be stronger than Davis, yet why do you want your stronger player spending as much time on the perimeter as Bennett? Not to mention, is it going to be easy to defend and move laterally against guys with 4 inches more of standing reach, who may even be faster tha you are?
Final thoughts on the matter, you are being a total homer and right now it just looks like you are trolling. If Anthony Davis were on the Cavs instead of Anthony Bennett, you would be doing back flips for joy. Wish Anthony Bennett the best of luck, just think that he has nothing on Anthony Davis as a prospect. It is not even close as far as impact on a game.
Did you notice the 62% FG%? That is a monster dominating percentage. Bennett had a nice 53% percentage. But that doesn't dominate games like shooting in the 60s.
Anthony Davis has the potential to go down as one of the greatest big men to ever play the game if he ever develops a good post game. Bennett might not bust out of the league but I doubt he will ever make the all-star team.
I actually don't see the hype around Davis either.
I think he'll be a great 3rd option for a team. Getting points in transition and putbacks, rebounding, shot blocking, stuff like that.
In terms of being a "franchise player", I just don't see how he ever develops the offensive skills. Last year he couldn't shoot, and he had no post up game. He needs to get good at one or the the other or he's just going to be a slightly more versatile Serge Ibaka.
Comparing him to Bennett is still absurd at this point, however, we have really no idea how two players this young will progress. Had we compared Tyreke Evans to Paul George coming into Evan's 2nd year and George's rookie year, it would have been absurd to think 3 years later George would be the vastly superior player.
Finally, somebody that thinks outside the box. People bash me on these forums for having a different opinion from the majority. They aren't going to change the way I think just by making multiple accounts and negging me like crazy though.
Your argument feels homer-ish, and that's why people are negging you, that and everyone's man crush on Davis. But generally, don't listen to a word anyone on here ever says to you about anything. 90% of the people on this board are complete idiots, and most of them will just front-run whatever opinion or stance is doing well on each thread, because some pointless score system is more important to them than actually having an opinion on something. Thinking outside of the box isn't allowed. Having an opinion that everyone agrees with is. The people who do best are those who post vanilla and lazy topics that are unarguable, and those who just post ESPN/NBA.com/SI articles that anyone with a twitter account or even the internet can find in 2 seconds.
Not sure if you've watched AD during the preseason but he's made serious strides offensively. His face up game looks phenomenal. He's taking advantage of his quickness and ball skills, blowing by defenders and using his touch to finish with a number of different releases. He was never going to be a post up threat with his frame but as a face up player his offensive game has serious potential. Combine his improved face up game with his PnR, cutting, o-rebounding, transition and occasional jumper and he could easily be a high teens scorer as soon as this yr with more room for growth. I know they're just preseason stats, so naturally take them with a grain of salt, but through 5 games AD (in 28 mpg) is only behind KD in scoring with 23 ppg.
I won't address the Bennett/Davis comparison because I don't even think Bennett is in the same league as a prospect , but I think you're underselling Davis' offensive potential.
I will save my judgement for what he does in games that count.
I like Davis as a basketball player, as a guy who will help his team win games in this league. I do not like him as a franchise changing player, because I don't think his offense will ever get there.
Where would his offense have to go? Defensively his potential is obvious. He has elite help defender potential, which some could argue is already a franchise changing attribute. What would he have to do offensively in order to be considered a franchise changing player in your eyes taking into consideration both ends of the floor and intangibles?
Be able to score in isolation on a consistent basis.
Superstars create plays for themselves, and that's what makes them superstars.
Last year he couldn't shoot, and he couldn't post up, rendering him of any scoring beyond layups, alley oops and putbacks.
If you look at the GREAT power forwards of the past decade, they could put their teams on their back in half-court offense. Davis cannot do that. Duncan had an unbelievable post up game, Garnett had a great midrange game with a plus post up game added in. Webber could create offense in a variety of ways and score from anywhere inside the arc.
Davis doesn't possess any of those skills. From what I have seen from him (this preseason included) he is still getting points on layups and transition plays. It's great he is finding ways to put up stats, but that doesn't mean he is going to help them win games.
Again, defensively, he is what he is. He's a good player there, and I'm not questioning him being a good player, just him being a superstar.
Go to guy? Maybe not, but he is showing signs of being able to put the ball in the hole at a good rate in a number of ways. I mean, even as just an activity, PnR guy he was still up to 17 points per 36 last yr. That's pretty damn productive for not being able to create his own offense.
He has shown an ability to create out of face up opportunities though. His first step for a PF is elite and he certainly has adequate ball skills and touch to score in those situations. He's already showing that potential. The key to maximizing his ability as a face up player is the jump shot, which would force defenses to play him closer allowing for more blow by opps. His form is good, so is his touch, as exemplified by his 75% from the line. This kid grew up a guard and in HS was responsible for creating his own offense vs double and triple teams, often from the perimeter because his team sucked. He's HAD a jump shot, so developing one that is NBA caliber (say 40% from mid-range) shouldn't be out of the realm of possibility. The skills that he has weren't necessary at UK. They pretty much limited his offensive responsibility to being an inside finisher and hustle guy, despite him being capable of much more, operating from different spots on the floor. AD sacrificed his offensive game for continuity at UK. He just needs more reps and needs to adjust his touch to his physical changes (players have to adjust to more muscle). Once he gets the jump shot down 20+ ppg is in his grasp and if you follow the scoring of PFs these days, that would automatically put him in an elite category in terms of scoring for a PF. So combine his defensive potential with the potential to be a 20+ ppg... to go along with his intangibles? That sounds like a franchise changer to me.
Anthony Bennett could be the worse no1 overall selection since Andrea Bargnani.... (oden excluded)
So many sheep on here or users who change their opinion like the wind.
NO ONE and I mean NO ONE had Bennett as no1 - most mocks he went 7-10. Now, he was selected no1 quite a few of you are jumping ships saying how great he will be.
There is no way he will better than Rose, Griffin, Wall, Irving or Davis....
Bennett is a great talent anyone on here that wont admit that are acting just like the people who tried to tell me MKG was a better athlete, better player than Harrison Barnes. You do that draft after there rookie year Barnes goes before MKG in every scenario. Bennett could become a match up nightmare should he reach his potential. Yes he does have to work on his body but so does Davis. Bennett tore his shoulder up mid season last year and was never the same after. Also it came out that he does have some asthma problems. Being a coach and having had a player have shoulder surgery conditioning is very difficult. You cant lift or run really. That said i think he could have done better keeping himself in shape via diet during the summer but lets all remember he is 19 or 20 year old kid. Larry Johnson is one of my all time fav players and Bennett reminds me of him just not as good. That said Bennett to me is more talented player than David West and he has turned out to be a very good player. If Bennett works he can be an all star level player as West was.
As far as Davis i think he can be an elite defender in the mold of KG. I think both KG and Duncan were better players at he same point in there career. Remember this the kinder gentler NBA now the physicality has dropped by about 50%. this is a league now where the best player flops after being hit by guys 60lbs lighter than he is, not a league where teams made rules to foul players so hard you wouldnt come back down the lane and there was no such thing as flagrant foul. Davis offensively to me is behind Bennett. Bennett was better as freshman offensivley and I think as rookie once he gets in shape he would be better in the league as rookie too, although he will not get the touches to prove it. Davis does seem to have the intangibles that you like a player to have. That said he doesnt seem like franchise player to me, a very good player none the less. I see him more as a healthy in his prime Jermaine O'Neal.
The simple truth is none of us know the future of players. They could both be stars, rotation players, or disappointments. As another poster said after Tyreke Evans rookie who would have guessed he would barley have progressed since.I dont think dude was trolling. he is entitled to his own opinion, without opinions there would be no need for these forums.
Bennett has gone 0/12 from the field in his first 3 games this season.....
Is this for real? How did I not see this?
And Davis has a PER of 31.99 and is beasting. It's 3 games but....lulz.