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  • #51722
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    franfran
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    Who is best player in 5-10 years?

    Last season Anthony Davis: 13,5 ppg 8,2 rpg 1 apg 1,2 spg 1,8 bpg in 28,8 mpg is very amazing

    Last season Andre Drummond: 7,9 ppg 7,6 rpg 0,5 apg 1 spg 1,6 bpg in 20,7 is very pretty amazing

    Prediction this season, Anthony Davis: 15,2 ppg 10,1 rpg 1,6 apg 1,4 spg 2,5 bpg in 35 mpg

    Prediction this season, Andre Drummond: 10,5 ppg 9,3 rpg 0,8 apg 1,5 spg 2,6 bpg in 30 mpg

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  • #831570
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    hoopscop
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    Barring injuries Anthony is a perennial All-Star Player, as for Drummond, right now he has unbelievable physical gifts, a solid Motor a no clue what is going on on the court, his Shooting is well lets say horrific, his ceiling is very high but he could be a real deception. Davis will be great period.

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  • #831678
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    hoopscop
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    Barring injuries Anthony is a perennial All-Star Player, as for Drummond, right now he has unbelievable physical gifts, a solid Motor a no clue what is going on on the court, his Shooting is well lets say horrific, his ceiling is very high but he could be a real deception. Davis will be great period.

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  • #831572
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    BasketBalAllan
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    Davis is going to be special. Not many people who are in the NBA have the potential to be a top defensive player and a top offensive player. Drummond could develop an effective offensive game but not to the point Davis is almost already at.

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  • #831680
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    BasketBalAllan
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    Davis is going to be special. Not many people who are in the NBA have the potential to be a top defensive player and a top offensive player. Drummond could develop an effective offensive game but not to the point Davis is almost already at.

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  • #831590
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    Chilbert arenas
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    Two different players in my opinion. Davis as much more versatile and can be effective 15-20ft out when bigger slower defenders are on him and punish small defenders in the paint. Davis is and will be more versatile defensively as well especially when it comes to the pick and roll. Drummond is an imposing center who will be spending most of his time in the paint and will match up with any big in the league. If I had to pick one it’d be Davis for what he’s proven already in the pros and his versatility. Drummond has huge upside but I don’t see them as similar players in the future.

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  • #831698
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    Chilbert arenas
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    Two different players in my opinion. Davis as much more versatile and can be effective 15-20ft out when bigger slower defenders are on him and punish small defenders in the paint. Davis is and will be more versatile defensively as well especially when it comes to the pick and roll. Drummond is an imposing center who will be spending most of his time in the paint and will match up with any big in the league. If I had to pick one it’d be Davis for what he’s proven already in the pros and his versatility. Drummond has huge upside but I don’t see them as similar players in the future.

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  • #831594
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    Everyone talks about Drummond and his crazy potential but he might never reach it. Davis on the other hand is all ready a game changer and could be an all star next year. He is a true basketball player who happen to grow to 6’10 while Drummond is the the way around being a huge body trying to grow into a basketball player. Back to Davis he is gonna become such a complete player with an all around game he is not just a shot blocker even though he is one of the best at doing it

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  • #831702
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    rileymcshea3
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    Everyone talks about Drummond and his crazy potential but he might never reach it. Davis on the other hand is all ready a game changer and could be an all star next year. He is a true basketball player who happen to grow to 6’10 while Drummond is the the way around being a huge body trying to grow into a basketball player. Back to Davis he is gonna become such a complete player with an all around game he is not just a shot blocker even though he is one of the best at doing it

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  • #831613
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    If davis gains 20 more pounds of muscle and can shoot 15-18 ft jumpers with consistency, he will be one of the best pf/c centers in the league. What impresses me more than his physical skills is his iq and motor.

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    • #831749
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      phila9012
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      Davis looked like he improved his shooting, in the blue white game he shot jumpers with confidence and made them.

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    • #831857
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      phila9012
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      Davis looked like he improved his shooting, in the blue white game he shot jumpers with confidence and made them.

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  • #831722
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    If davis gains 20 more pounds of muscle and can shoot 15-18 ft jumpers with consistency, he will be one of the best pf/c centers in the league. What impresses me more than his physical skills is his iq and motor.

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  • #831756
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    BasterdInABasket
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    This shouldn’t even be close. Team-first, all-around player with superstar potential, sounds kinda Duncan-esque.
    Drummond is boom or bust, but on offense what can he do besides dunk? (37% FT, really??), He just turns 20 in 2 days, so a lot of time to develop but I see best-case scenario for him being a fringe all-star player.

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  • #831647
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    BasterdInABasket
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    This shouldn’t even be close. Team-first, all-around player with superstar potential, sounds kinda Duncan-esque.
    Drummond is boom or bust, but on offense what can he do besides dunk? (37% FT, really??), He just turns 20 in 2 days, so a lot of time to develop but I see best-case scenario for him being a fringe all-star player.

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    • #831762
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      Everyone acknowledges that Drummonds potential is huge, so “best case” should put him in the perennial all star category. Unless you don’t believe his ceiling is as high as pretty much everyone else.

      I do agree though that Davis will be the better player – high bball IQ, elite athlete, elite defender, developing offensive game. Drummond has the potential to be on a similar level to Dwight – or a Javale McGee (although I think Drummond will surpass JaVale this year). Whether he reaches it or not will be the big question.

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    • #831653
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      Choppy
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      Everyone acknowledges that Drummonds potential is huge, so “best case” should put him in the perennial all star category. Unless you don’t believe his ceiling is as high as pretty much everyone else.

      I do agree though that Davis will be the better player – high bball IQ, elite athlete, elite defender, developing offensive game. Drummond has the potential to be on a similar level to Dwight – or a Javale McGee (although I think Drummond will surpass JaVale this year). Whether he reaches it or not will be the big question.

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      • #831745
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        I just see a lot of established and young centers in the league and I realize how young he is but I just don’t see much basketball skill to build off of. Elite athlete? yes but that only gets you so far (see Javale Mcgee and Deandre Jordan) and I don’t see him ever being a go-to guy on a team.

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      • #831853
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        I just see a lot of established and young centers in the league and I realize how young he is but I just don’t see much basketball skill to build off of. Elite athlete? yes but that only gets you so far (see Javale Mcgee and Deandre Jordan) and I don’t see him ever being a go-to guy on a team.

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  • #831778
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    mike_r232
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    Remember when Drummond was slipping down in the draft? The Pelicans were ONE pick away from pairing Anthony Davis with Andre Drummond for the next decade! That’s some scary stuff right there. Imagine him there instead of Rivers and you have a lineup of Holiday, Gordon, Evans, Davis, and Drummond with Anderson off the bench. That’s a fun team to watch!

    I agree that they both have the potential to be great players, but they are just so different. Davis has been playing a lot of center minutes, but he is out of position. He would be better suited at the 4 where he can use all of his skill, agility, and IQ. Drummond is just a physical beast and can impose his will on most players in the league. Davis needs to gain a bit of weight and Drummond needs to work on his shooting. It will be interesting to see them develop, but it might be too soon to tell who will be better.

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  • #831669
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    mike_r232
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    Remember when Drummond was slipping down in the draft? The Pelicans were ONE pick away from pairing Anthony Davis with Andre Drummond for the next decade! That’s some scary stuff right there. Imagine him there instead of Rivers and you have a lineup of Holiday, Gordon, Evans, Davis, and Drummond with Anderson off the bench. That’s a fun team to watch!

    I agree that they both have the potential to be great players, but they are just so different. Davis has been playing a lot of center minutes, but he is out of position. He would be better suited at the 4 where he can use all of his skill, agility, and IQ. Drummond is just a physical beast and can impose his will on most players in the league. Davis needs to gain a bit of weight and Drummond needs to work on his shooting. It will be interesting to see them develop, but it might be too soon to tell who will be better.

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  • #831849
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    esperanzafleet69
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    both players will probably be great, but still have different games… one player that really intrigues me that i think should probably be in this talk as well is John henson. he basically averaged 9pts 4.7reb and .07blk in 13 minutes per game. per 36 minutes this translates to 16.5 pts 13reb and 1.8 blks per.

    for instance, per 36 drummond averages 13.8pts 13.2reb, 1.7stls and 2.8blks, and per 36 davis averages 16.9pts 10.2reb, 1.5stls, and 2.2blks.

    Im very excited to see some of these guys play this year, and luckily get to see the pistons play every game.

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  • #831741
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    esperanzafleet69
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    both players will probably be great, but still have different games… one player that really intrigues me that i think should probably be in this talk as well is John henson. he basically averaged 9pts 4.7reb and .07blk in 13 minutes per game. per 36 minutes this translates to 16.5 pts 13reb and 1.8 blks per.

    for instance, per 36 drummond averages 13.8pts 13.2reb, 1.7stls and 2.8blks, and per 36 davis averages 16.9pts 10.2reb, 1.5stls, and 2.2blks.

    Im very excited to see some of these guys play this year, and luckily get to see the pistons play every game.

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  • #831753
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    rabidsnowman
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    You actually predict Drummond to have more blocks per game than Anthony Davis. Furthermore, you predict Drummond to have more steals, which is nearly as unlikely.

    Both players have all star potential. Davis, however, has a much higher ceiling, as he could be a hall of famer if he really maxes out everything he can do.

    Only one of these guys is a 7 footer who can handle the ball like a SF, shoot the 3, block shots at an elite level, all while having a good back to the basket game and the toughness to rebound the basketball. Oh and for icing on the cake, the ability to catch almost any pass, particularly above the rim.

    I’m not here to knock Drummond. The kid has real potential. But I wouldn’t bet on him having a better career than Anthony Davis.

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    • #832311
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      What are you on? In 8.1 less minutes per game last year Drummond averaged 0.2 less blocks. Per 36 Drummond averages over a half block more. If Davis is elite at it, then Drummond is even better. Same exact situation with steals. Davis can’t handle like a SF and has shown no ability to do so in the pro’s. He hasn’t even made a career 3 pt shot yet while Drummond has, he isn’t a better rebounder then Drummond, he’s not taller and he isn’t all that good with his back to the basket (albeit way ahead of Drummond regardless). Pretty much everything you said was wrong.

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    • #832204
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      What are you on? In 8.1 less minutes per game last year Drummond averaged 0.2 less blocks. Per 36 Drummond averages over a half block more. If Davis is elite at it, then Drummond is even better. Same exact situation with steals. Davis can’t handle like a SF and has shown no ability to do so in the pro’s. He hasn’t even made a career 3 pt shot yet while Drummond has, he isn’t a better rebounder then Drummond, he’s not taller and he isn’t all that good with his back to the basket (albeit way ahead of Drummond regardless). Pretty much everything you said was wrong.

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  • #831861
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    rabidsnowman
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    You actually predict Drummond to have more blocks per game than Anthony Davis. Furthermore, you predict Drummond to have more steals, which is nearly as unlikely.

    Both players have all star potential. Davis, however, has a much higher ceiling, as he could be a hall of famer if he really maxes out everything he can do.

    Only one of these guys is a 7 footer who can handle the ball like a SF, shoot the 3, block shots at an elite level, all while having a good back to the basket game and the toughness to rebound the basketball. Oh and for icing on the cake, the ability to catch almost any pass, particularly above the rim.

    I’m not here to knock Drummond. The kid has real potential. But I wouldn’t bet on him having a better career than Anthony Davis.

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  • #831785
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    What exactly has Davis done to have “offensive potential”? Just because he isn’t good yet, and occasionally has hit outside shots doesn’t mean he’s going to be good offensively. He has no post moves, and was one of the worst shooters in the NBA last year.

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    • #831832
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      TimeForNine
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      His form is excellent and shot pretty well from the line for a big man. His jumper just needs repetition. When you compare his rookie stats to some of the better 4’s over the past few years his numbers stack up (KG, Bosh, Stoudemire).

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      • #832303
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        esperanzafleet69
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        i hate to pull this, but tyrus thomas’ rookie year was good too.

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      • #832196
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        esperanzafleet69
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        i hate to pull this, but tyrus thomas’ rookie year was good too.

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    • #831939
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      TimeForNine
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      His form is excellent and shot pretty well from the line for a big man. His jumper just needs repetition. When you compare his rookie stats to some of the better 4’s over the past few years his numbers stack up (KG, Bosh, Stoudemire).

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  • #831893
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    Ghost01
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    What exactly has Davis done to have “offensive potential”? Just because he isn’t good yet, and occasionally has hit outside shots doesn’t mean he’s going to be good offensively. He has no post moves, and was one of the worst shooters in the NBA last year.

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  • #832775
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    Mr. 19134
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    If Drummond gets 30mpg this year hell average atleast 11rpg and score atleast 12ppg. He may not be the smartest player but based on pure physical ability he’s the 2nd scariest player in the league behind Lebron.

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  • #832669
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    Mr. 19134
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    If Drummond gets 30mpg this year hell average atleast 11rpg and score atleast 12ppg. He may not be the smartest player but based on pure physical ability he’s the 2nd scariest player in the league behind Lebron.

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