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  • #31945
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    Hi its Ben
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     By far one of the most versatile freshman that will be playing this year, he is listed as a power forward on this site.  I wanna ask some things.

     

    Before the 2011 college basketball season started, I would always look ahead to the next draft.  So looking onto the 2012 draft I saw the plethora of small forwards that were in it.  One of them was, indeed, Anthony Davis.  The reason I bring this up is because I’m wondering why he isn’t listed as a combo forward instead of only a power forward.

     

    I’m not exactly sure when he got switched from small forward to power forward, but considering his slight frame (that might not allow him to guard big/average-sized power forwards), history as a guard, outside shot, and versatility.. Those are some reasons as to why I feel he could play on the wing sometimes.  I know this means very little but even he said he "models" his game after Kevin Durant.

     

    What are your thoughts?

     

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  • #574361
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    ilike.panochas
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    His length (6’10 + 7’4 wingspan) and his commitment to rebounding and shot blocking ability is why he is considered a pure PF instead of a “combo-forward”.

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  • #574184
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    ilike.panochas
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    His length (6’10 + 7’4 wingspan) and his commitment to rebounding and shot blocking ability is why he is considered a pure PF instead of a “combo-forward”.

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  • #574371
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     Ok I get you but I’m pretty sure any high school kid that’s 6’10 is gonna be able to block and rebound shots at the high school/prep level.

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  • #574194
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     Ok I get you but I’m pretty sure any high school kid that’s 6’10 is gonna be able to block and rebound shots at the high school/prep level.

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  • #574226
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    i think he will be whatever he wants to be. he said that he models his game after Durant so i think he will end up being a SF. if he works hard on his shot and everything else in his game then he will play the position that he wants to play.

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  • #574403
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    i think he will be whatever he wants to be. he said that he models his game after Durant so i think he will end up being a SF. if he works hard on his shot and everything else in his game then he will play the position that he wants to play.

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  • #574238
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    It is really hard for a player who stands 6’10"+ to play wing in the NBA.  A player that tall has too rely on off-the-ball movement since their dribbles take longer and they have a high center of gravity.  Kevin Durant is an exception, but their aren’t many like him.  Anthony Randolph thinks he is a wing, and has incredible coordination and quickness for a player his size, but when he tries to handle the ball like a guard, he frequently turns it over.  Most player’s who are that size and have shown the ability to play like a big man, like Davis did so well in the all-star games, are going to be projected as big men, especially those that play center in college, as Davis will.  

    I was actually really impressed with the fact that at the all-star games, Davis really played his role well and didn’t try to do too much.  Some players, such as Marquis Teague and Austin Rivers, seemed to play more like they would have against inferior competition and fared poorly as a result, but, at the McDs and Jordan games, Davis left the ball handling to the guards and didn’t float around the perimeter.  He attacked the boards and moved well w/out the ball, positioning himself down low for dump off passes.  Because of this, I am optimistic that Davis won’t end up like Anthony Randolph.

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  • #574415
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    It is really hard for a player who stands 6’10"+ to play wing in the NBA.  A player that tall has too rely on off-the-ball movement since their dribbles take longer and they have a high center of gravity.  Kevin Durant is an exception, but their aren’t many like him.  Anthony Randolph thinks he is a wing, and has incredible coordination and quickness for a player his size, but when he tries to handle the ball like a guard, he frequently turns it over.  Most player’s who are that size and have shown the ability to play like a big man, like Davis did so well in the all-star games, are going to be projected as big men, especially those that play center in college, as Davis will.  

    I was actually really impressed with the fact that at the all-star games, Davis really played his role well and didn’t try to do too much.  Some players, such as Marquis Teague and Austin Rivers, seemed to play more like they would have against inferior competition and fared poorly as a result, but, at the McDs and Jordan games, Davis left the ball handling to the guards and didn’t float around the perimeter.  He attacked the boards and moved well w/out the ball, positioning himself down low for dump off passes.  Because of this, I am optimistic that Davis won’t end up like Anthony Randolph.

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  • #574530
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    LazarusMunoz
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    is there any footage out there when he was 6"2?

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  • #574352
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    LazarusMunoz
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    is there any footage out there when he was 6"2?

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  • #574559
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    xavier328
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    Hes Andray Blatche with a motor…

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    xavier328
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    Hes Andray Blatche with a motor…

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    • #574561
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      WizardofOz
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      ^^ That’s a solid comparison. Both were long, tall toothpicks with perimeter skills, although I think Blatche was more skilled at the same stage.

      Blatche was a beast in HS!

      He was basically his team’s PG! And he still can be a beast. If he gets his shape and starts trying every game, he’ll be an All-Star!

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    • #574382
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      ^^ That’s a solid comparison. Both were long, tall toothpicks with perimeter skills, although I think Blatche was more skilled at the same stage.

      Blatche was a beast in HS!

      He was basically his team’s PG! And he still can be a beast. If he gets his shape and starts trying every game, he’ll be an All-Star!

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  • #574565
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    He’s skinny right now, but I think he’ll fill out and eventually have no problems defending bigger/stronger post players… He’s still adjusting to his body since he had such a late growth spurt.

    I’m really intrigued by this kid… I think he’s modeling his game after the wrong Kevin though…

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  • #574386
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    He’s skinny right now, but I think he’ll fill out and eventually have no problems defending bigger/stronger post players… He’s still adjusting to his body since he had such a late growth spurt.

    I’m really intrigued by this kid… I think he’s modeling his game after the wrong Kevin though…

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  • #574569
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    WizardofOz
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    But yeah, the site had Davis as a SF earlier in the year, but switched his position to PF after the All-Star games. I’ve only seen him play in the All-Star games, but he didn’t show me enough perimeter skills to warrant being a full-time wing player.

    And he shouldn’t model his game after Durant (but if he is, he’s doing a bad job). He doesn’t have Durant’s handles, or shooting stroke. His handles are good for someone his size, but just like Perry Jones, his handle isn’t good enough to use to break down perimeter defenders. And his jumper has potential, but it’s no there yet.

    He should model his game after K.G. They were both stringbeans and raw out of HS, but they were long, athletic, and both have/had crazy upside.

    And he’s no John Henson! He has wide shoulders, and a good base, so he should fill out in time.

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  • #574390
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    But yeah, the site had Davis as a SF earlier in the year, but switched his position to PF after the All-Star games. I’ve only seen him play in the All-Star games, but he didn’t show me enough perimeter skills to warrant being a full-time wing player.

    And he shouldn’t model his game after Durant (but if he is, he’s doing a bad job). He doesn’t have Durant’s handles, or shooting stroke. His handles are good for someone his size, but just like Perry Jones, his handle isn’t good enough to use to break down perimeter defenders. And his jumper has potential, but it’s no there yet.

    He should model his game after K.G. They were both stringbeans and raw out of HS, but they were long, athletic, and both have/had crazy upside.

    And he’s no John Henson! He has wide shoulders, and a good base, so he should fill out in time.

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  • #574757
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    He should be modelling his game after KG. The fact is, Kevin Durant has some incredibly rare shooting ability and perimeter skills. Anthony Davis is incredibly quick and agile for his size, but he is barking up the wrong tree trying to model his game after Durant. As much as it is stressed that he has "guard skills", I do not necessarily believe he has Durant skills. He does, however, have great speed, aggression on the boards and fantastic timing for blocking shots, not to mention a huge ability to alter them. The most positive things people tended to remark on Davis about is his low post defense, even with his being slight. So, why not use this to become an absolute terror to match-up with at the 4 spot? Kevin Durant is a fantastic talent, but I think Davis should be watching how KG developed into the PF that every team was looking to emulate with his combination of skill set and athleticism.

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  • #574576
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    mikeyvthedon
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    He should be modelling his game after KG. The fact is, Kevin Durant has some incredibly rare shooting ability and perimeter skills. Anthony Davis is incredibly quick and agile for his size, but he is barking up the wrong tree trying to model his game after Durant. As much as it is stressed that he has "guard skills", I do not necessarily believe he has Durant skills. He does, however, have great speed, aggression on the boards and fantastic timing for blocking shots, not to mention a huge ability to alter them. The most positive things people tended to remark on Davis about is his low post defense, even with his being slight. So, why not use this to become an absolute terror to match-up with at the 4 spot? Kevin Durant is a fantastic talent, but I think Davis should be watching how KG developed into the PF that every team was looking to emulate with his combination of skill set and athleticism.

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  • #574766
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    Tongue-Out-Like-23
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    Is he just another long, lanky, athletic bigman that gets by because of his "potential"?

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    Tongue-Out-Like-23
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    Is he just another long, lanky, athletic bigman that gets by because of his "potential"?

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  • #574770
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    mikeyvthedon
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    He is not all potential, the fact is, the guy is really good right now. That is why he is being talked about in such a positive light. Seeing is believing with Davis, and I liked what I saw of him. His speed is real, and for those saying he lacks aggression, they more than likely were watching something other than I was, because the guy is pretty relentless. I am fairly surprised that so many people are still sceptics, but I am not one of them. I am not at all saying the guy is going to take over college basketball, and his best days are certainly in front of him, but he will be a force and should make an immediate impact. I do not see him as being someone getting by on potential, because he is already playing at a noticeably higher level than many of his peers. I do not know if you could say the same thing about, "another long, lanky, athletic bigman that gets by because of his "potential"? Whoever you may be referring to (Anthony Randolph, Brandan Wright, Ekpe Udoh, just hope the Warriors do not draft him), I do not think there is as long a line as "players getting by on potential" as one would think.

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  • #574588
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    He is not all potential, the fact is, the guy is really good right now. That is why he is being talked about in such a positive light. Seeing is believing with Davis, and I liked what I saw of him. His speed is real, and for those saying he lacks aggression, they more than likely were watching something other than I was, because the guy is pretty relentless. I am fairly surprised that so many people are still sceptics, but I am not one of them. I am not at all saying the guy is going to take over college basketball, and his best days are certainly in front of him, but he will be a force and should make an immediate impact. I do not see him as being someone getting by on potential, because he is already playing at a noticeably higher level than many of his peers. I do not know if you could say the same thing about, "another long, lanky, athletic bigman that gets by because of his "potential"? Whoever you may be referring to (Anthony Randolph, Brandan Wright, Ekpe Udoh, just hope the Warriors do not draft him), I do not think there is as long a line as "players getting by on potential" as one would think.

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  • #574772
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    kobyz
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     what set him apart from a prospect like Perry Jones, only rebounding?

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  • #574591
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    kobyz
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     what set him apart from a prospect like Perry Jones, only rebounding?

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  • #574788
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    JNixon
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    Yeah Davis is a PF. He can be a very good player too, and I agree that he has the frame to fill out. He should look to be like Kevin Garnett too. Davis is one of those guys you have to see in conference play to get a read on just how good he can be and how fast he’ll be able to adjust to the NBA.

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  • #574606
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    Yeah Davis is a PF. He can be a very good player too, and I agree that he has the frame to fill out. He should look to be like Kevin Garnett too. Davis is one of those guys you have to see in conference play to get a read on just how good he can be and how fast he’ll be able to adjust to the NBA.

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  • #574794
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    niQ
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    I think he’s more Kevin Durant than Kevin Garnett to be honest. The fact that he used to be a guard at 6’2 should only help that cause. He’s a lot more quick (and wayyy skinner) than your regular PF, I think he’d get pushed around if he were to play PF in the NBA….my 2 cents.

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  • #574613
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    I think he’s more Kevin Durant than Kevin Garnett to be honest. The fact that he used to be a guard at 6’2 should only help that cause. He’s a lot more quick (and wayyy skinner) than your regular PF, I think he’d get pushed around if he were to play PF in the NBA….my 2 cents.

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  • #574796
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     I think Davis has a higher feel for the game than Perry Jones, and he looks like he will be a better shot blocker and rebounder.  Jones has always been criticized for a lack of production, but is still a likely top half of the lottery pick.  Davis has not had those same questions asked about his game, and that is part of what makes him a better prospect.  Mikeyvthedon hit the nail on the head: Davis is ready to be productive in college now and is not a long term project the way that Anthony Randolph or John Henson was.   

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  • #574615
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     I think Davis has a higher feel for the game than Perry Jones, and he looks like he will be a better shot blocker and rebounder.  Jones has always been criticized for a lack of production, but is still a likely top half of the lottery pick.  Davis has not had those same questions asked about his game, and that is part of what makes him a better prospect.  Mikeyvthedon hit the nail on the head: Davis is ready to be productive in college now and is not a long term project the way that Anthony Randolph or John Henson was.   

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