[SubZeroParticipant]

I honestly don’t know if this has been suggested yet, but I had this thought:

Nerlens Noel for Brandon Knight

We all know Philly is looking to trade Noel because he’s basically twisting management’s arm at this point. The rest of the league knows that, so the value on him is probably at its lowest right now. Coincidentally, Knight has been pretty bad this year so his value is probably at its lowest as well. These are 2 guys whose actual value could be exponentially higher than what their trade value is at this point. Phoenix clears out the backcourt a little and adds some rim protection that can also run the floor, and Philly gains some much needed shooting and playmaking while also clearing out their frontcourt a bit. Plus Knight’s on contract for $12 mil/4 years, so resigning him won’t be an issue with their other guys, and by the time he runs out they should have their guard for the future by that point, if not this next draft

Thoughts? This might be my first trade suggestion ever

[Sewok15Participant]

 I think this trade would make sense for the Sixers since Noel doesn’t appear to be in their future plans and they need some perimeter scoring. 

I just don’t see Noel fitting that well in Phoenix with a team that already has Tyson Chandler (two more years at 13+ million after this season) and Alex Len who has really been coming into his own and is a more complete Center than Noel. 
 

Noel can’t shoot at all so he can’t play PF. He would be a nice fit in the future next to Dragan Bender but where does that leave Len? 

Maybe a three way deal with someone like Moe Harkless going to Phoenix and Portland getting Noel would make more sense but I am not sure how that would work financially. 

[SubZeroParticipant]

I honestly didn’t look at how much longer Chandler has in Phoenix. I was just thinking about Noel-Len-Bender-Chriss as their frontcourt

The main crux of this was Philly getting Knight. I still love the thought of Portland getting Noel, would Phoenix prefer Harkless over Allen Crabbe? I’m thinking Harkless might be redundant with PJ Tucker and TJ Warren

[Sewok15Participant]

 That is a talented young front court but there are only 48 minutes per game at PF and C. I didn’t even mention Chriss in my original post but he only adds to the log jam. Nerlens would be right back in the same situation he was in Philly sitting on the bench behind more complete players. Noel could be a really good 6th man with his defense and energy but you have to play him at C. That would limit Len’s minutes to around 25 per game which will only stunt his development. 

Even if they could trade Chandler to a contender in need of an interior presence they still have too many big guys. It wouldn’t be quite as bad as Philly with 2 better centers ahead of him but still not ideal for Noel. 

 

 

[HitsterParticipant]

 As a Phoenix fan we already have Len, Chriss and Bender as young front courters apart from veteran Tyson Chandler. If we took Noel then he’d want a larger contract than Chandler is currently on. I don’t see a lot of point Chandler being on a rebuilding team unless he is happy to be there and mentor the young guys so I’d think it would be mutually beneficial to both sides to move him to a contender of choice.

Noel may well be a rental to a team for this year and move on as a FA next summer if a contender wanted a big man for a this season but would not have room to meet Noel’s 2nd contract. 

I’d quite like to see Noel at Dallas as he’d have a good coach to help him along and being with Bogut and Dirk would surely help his game. Houston would like his energy too so that could be an option.

 

 

[The Scare Crow RisesParticipant]

Nerlens Noel for Andre Iguadola straight up

Andre comes back to help bring a veteran presence and leader in the locker room, he’d be great SG and SF next to Fultz and Simmons, he’d be great in the starting lineup as a defensive SG or SF (depending on where we slide Simmons, I want him to start at PF, and play some PG/SF while Saric and Stauskas come off the bench)

A Starting line up of Fultz/Iguadola/Simmons and Embiid only needs that SG or SF to slide into Robert Covington’s role 

It me thinking about a trade involving Okafor/Covington and the Lakers pick (9th-15th)

We can use that package to either move up in the Draft (Josh Jackson of Jayson Tatum???) Or Trade for another experienced SG/SF to start with the Core of Fultz/Simmons/Embiid, Iggy/Sergio/Ilyasova and possibly Bayless can stick around as veteran role players, Saric and Stauskas play a similar role as Diaw and Danny Green in San Antonio, aka Versatile playmaking F and Floor Spacing 2 Guard, Holmes/TLC and Korkmaz develop slowly with no pressure to produce immediately (hopefully one of the international guys turns into a steal)

IDK, I’d rather add Iggy and role the dice in the draft, hopefully landing Fultz in the Top 3 and trading Okafor/Covington and the Lakers pick for the final piece (Tatum or Experienced Wing)

 

  

 

 

 

 

[vulture711Participant]

 

 What happens here.  I haven’t seen Noel or Okafor run with Embiid never mind Simmons.  For all I know Simmons and Noel form a chemistry like he had with Ish Smith and it’s lob central.  I already know he plays better D and boards than Okafor

Also Brown just said he sees Simmons as the starter at point – not a point forward – so it’s not clear you’d want to trade for another lead guard

I’d probably stand pat until everyone is healthy and see who plays well with whom

 

 

 

[SlickBouncePassParticipant]

saw Brandon Knight this year vs Philly, he was underwhelming.  Doesn’t look as athletic as two years ago.  Maybe its the limited minutes, but he doesn’t seem as aggressive.  Noel in PHX is not a good fit.  Noel in POR or GSW is a very good fit…

But GSW doesn’t have assets to trade.  Iggy is a defensive stalwart for that team they won’t trade him, he is a huge part of the chemistry of that squad and they have to redeem themselves, they’re not going to trade a glue guy.

POR has plenty of assets but I don’t like Crabbe, he’s been very inconsistent and more of a one year wonder.  I know Portland signed him with the very idea of using him as an asset to trade around the deadline this year, just amassing assets to improve.  Crabbe hasn’t proved himself.  The guy I want is Aminu.  Aminu has great feet and is a very good defender and is a realiable 3 point shooter.  He is Ilyasova or Saric with much better defense, and he has a high IQ and knows how to play, and stepped his game up under pressure in the playoffs.

But, would I give up Noel for Aminu?  Not unless I get a first round pick.  Okayfor I’d move with a pic too.  I think Aminu helps you win, he’s a gamer.  I still really like Noel as my backup center because the guy is too undersized to be a long-term starter in this league.  He’s either Ben Wallace without the strength, or he’s a really good off the bench defender.  A perfect backup for the Sixers but I also don’t want to overpay for him.  

I’d do the deal, Aminu + Portland 1st round pick (not Cleveland).  Crabbe Harkless and Vonleh are all overrated.

 

I don’t care how they fit right now, the Sixers need to keep amassing talented NBA players. 

 

 

 

 

 

  

[MatosParticipant]

 If a trade occurs, its likely at the deadline. They’ll wait  until all players are healthy and minute restrictions have been lifted (with exception of Simmons who will likely be on restrictions from when he gets back until the end of the season). That should be from some time in January up to the deadline. Thats enough time to see who meshes with who, even in small sample size. If the sixers don’t feel they’ve seen enough then they’ll wait until the end of the year. What i’m figuring is that they would rather take open cap space rather than trade Noel for a "great fit" with a mid/high level salary. And no team is going to offer a first rounder for him at this stage seeing as though they can get him for free at the end of the season.

[sportspolymathParticipant]

 If I am Philly, I would want a little more.  Plus. I would really be looking for my PG at the top of the 2017 draft board, although Knight is a good player in his own right.  Many of these young big men are projects, and you know that when you draft them.  I would keep him for now, and pay him if I have to.

[r377Participant]

Well done Sixers – Just like MCW, Wroten & KJ McDaniel, you have made Noel feel about as welcome and special as a two dollar hooker after you have just finished banging her !!

Nerlens won’t want to stay around and will be a FA as end of season. I think they would lucky to get a second rounder for him

[warson24]

 

 MCW, Wroten and KJ now all proved they are bad players, who were producing on a D-League caliber Philly team. Noel is another case, and the Sixers team balance with 5 centers and nothing else is just laughable, never understood what the Colangelos wanted with this. They should have made trades in the offseason, now they succesfully diminshed noel’s and okafor’s trade value.

[HitsterParticipant]

The 76ers would hopefully want to try and get a good package for Noel but deadline day is around 10 weeks away and after that he is effectively an RFA. Someone is going to sign him to an offer sheet, so Philly would have to consider matching and it then puts down another team’s marker on what Philly’s prospects would be worth or they let him walk away for nothing.

So it might be worth taking some sort of loss even if a contender takes a rental on Noel for a late first rounder. A top team would happily give up a 25-30 pick if they thought it gives them a better run at a title IMO. also Iyasova will have nice trade value with his expiring deal as contenders would like his experience and shooting to boost their play off bench.

Philly could not really make a trade in the off season unless they had moved say Saric on draft day for a sufficiently high pick and they were always keen to keep him. Also until they had seen Saric, Embiid and Simmons in action they could not realistically decide who they might want to move. If they had got a good enough offer for Oak, Noel or Saric then they may possibly have considered it. But the consensus on here was that Oak was worth more than Boston 3rd pick and Saric was worth a probable top 5 pick too.

[binetParticipant]

 With Simmons as a PG I don’t see the 76ers being interested by Brandon Knight at all.

I think the plan is to try and test him while the PG spot is not filled with a true starting talent, and see where it goes from here. Simmons can end up being slided to the 4 afterwards if it’s not concluant, but then the new PG will be from the upcoming draft class, certainly not Brandon Knight.

I also think the 76ers have found decent backup PGs in Sergio (and possibly Bayless if he ever recovers) so there is no need there, and with Nik Stauskas ‘s progression and Gerald Henderson, I am not sure BK would truly be the solution at the 2 neither.

I also think it’s possible Simmons ends up fitting way better with Nerlens than Jah, what would lead the 76ers to review their hierarchy. Simmons elite passing in Summer League at least fitted very well with rishaun Holmes, who is closer to Nerlens than Jah in terms of skillset. Simmons play should fit better with a player with less ability to play 1v1 and more ability to move, cut and do athletical shows à la putbacks, alley oops and such… That guy is certainly not Jah in my opinion.

Whatever, trade should not happen before Simmons has shown how he fits with each player.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[HitsterParticipant]

Good points Binet so +1 from me. The worse that could happen is that Noel isn’t a fit and he walks away for nothing or they find out he is a fit and have to match a big offer for him. It is a risk possibly worth taking for if Noel is a good fit then probably Oak becomes surplus and he’d still have good trade value.

Iyasova could probably be traded regardless unless Philly were desperate to keep him as they fairly much know what he brings to the table and must have an idea if they want to try to keep him.

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