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Andrew Wiggins vs. Julius Randle @ LeBron James Skills Academy

http://www.slamonline.com/online/college-hs/high-school/2012/07/andrew-wiggins-vs-julius-randle-at-lebron-skills-camp-video/

Reading up on LeBron camp breakdowns (Scout.com, ESPN, other sites), these two guys looked to be possibly the two best players there. As Aran reported, was a very good game (with Ivan Rabb vs. Diamond Stone, two 2015 bigs, taking center stage in a head-to-head as well) with Wiggins team coming up with the win.

As SLAM reports, Wiggins got the better in match-up situations with Randle (including a fantastic block on a Randle triple attempt and three dribbles to a throw down), while Randle was better at getting teammates involved while having the more complete game. With rumors of Andrew Wiggins moving to Class of 2013, so is the popular belief that he might be the best prospect in al of HS basketball right now. Meanwhile, Julius Randle is no slouch himself with a man's body and game.

Two very exciting prospects who will be making a couple schools ecstatic, than do the same for the fans of some lucky NBA team. This video shows just a tad of what the current projected #1 pick and #3 pick in the 2014 Draft can do. Also, should be a preview of what is to come at the Nike Peach Jam (July 19-22). CIA Bounce (Wiggins), Team Texas Titans (Randle) and Mac Irvin Fire (Jabari Parker) are all in the same Pool. Will have to go through stiff competition to get to that #1 spot.


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So glad to see

So glad to see those 3 guys going head to head at the Peach Jam. Wonder what the box score looked like? They all look like sure fire NBA all stars at this point though Wiggins seems to be from all accounts and this video the better player. I think it is a toss up between Randle and Parker for the #2 spot.

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Looks like Randle had more

Looks like Randle had more success when he was physical with Wiggins.

Wiggins athletism & length though, is unbelievable.

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wiggins >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

wiggins >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> randle

i think randle dribbles to high, shot mechanics are weak to say the least and he "trucks" too much, i dont see that projecting to the nba very well.

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Not to sound like a hater but

Not to sound like a hater but am i the only one that doesn't see Randle as having star power? whether all-star or superstar? He's a very good player in my eyes but he's dominating due to his NBA strength level in highschool and height.. but thats just ME

I think Wiggins has that potential though

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I agree ^^^^ don't get me

I agree ^^^^ don't get me wrong he looks like he can be really good but I just don't see what will make him special or stand out in the NBA ...... To me Andrew wiggins and Jabari Parker are at a whole different level when it comes to what they will be in the NBA

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fan of both

Look I like Randle, but he reminds me soo much of Beasley coming out of high school. He's a man among boys out there, but he might be a bit of a "tweener" at the NBA level. He seems to have his head on straight though, which is something Beasley still struggles with. Wiggins on the other hand, WOW. That kid has elite athleticism and an improving skill set. I'm a big fan of Jabari Parker, but perhaps Sports Illustrated got it wrong saying that he's the best high school prospect since LeBron. I truly think Wiggins might be the better prospect. He has things u can't teach and just keeps on getting better

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i dissagree for me in

i dissagree for me in '13class Randle is number one he has already range handles and his athleticism and quickness are like elite's SF..he just measured legit 6'10 240, he is one of the better passing bigs in HS too..he is just a monster, a little Blake Griffin out there or because of versatility some say C-Webb

check out this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt8pMZ7Gg-M&feature=relmfu

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While i like Randles game and

While i like Randles game and all, if he reclassifies, he will definitley not be the top prospect, he isn't close to the players Shabazz and Zeller are already. He should stay in his current class and he will suceed just fine

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im talking about '13 HS

im talking about '13 HS class..

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great match up of contrasting styles

the smooth finesse player (sg/sf) vs the attacking bully(sf/pf).

Im a big Randle fan if Im honest, I see the Beasley comparison too. I just think Randles is really strong going to the basket and not just because of his size but he has a quick looking first step and a strong second step. this mixed with a good touch around the rim. Its clear to me that he operates better closer to the basket(mid post) than Wiggins who likes to set up from outside to set you up for the jumper or a slippery drive. From what I know Randle is prone to force the issue so it was great to see him getting those assist showing more diveristy to his game. With more work on his jumper I think he could have a Melo like effect on the college level (statistically and game wise)

2 great prospects either way you cut, and I would put both above Parker on my darft board personally

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Randle is my dude. Cant

Randle is my dude. Cant wait to see these guys in college, but on another note...I think we all may be underrating what Parker brings to the game and what he will be able to do at the next level. I would rather watch Randle and Wiggins as they are much more exciting and athletic. We may be underrating Parker intagibles though. Myself included.

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I think i'll go on a little

I think i'll go on a little limb here and say most people on here have not seen Randle play in a full game. For those who have seen him in a full game as well as other full games they will tell you that the guy doesn't just over power players. He is a elite athlete as well as a skilled player. The kid can consistantly hit the mid range and Drive past PF/C with ease. He isn't a SF but he can play spot SF and should have no problem driving past NBA bigs. His game is a lot like Chris Webbers at the same stage except his handles are better and he is a little quicker driving to the basket because of it.

Another thing is he is a monster when it comes to going after rebounds which shows he is a max effort guy. On a side note, i just read a interview done by Adam Zogaria, with Wiggins and Wiggins said he plans on stayin gin the class he is in but he culd change his mind later. His coach said its possible but he would have a good amount of extra work he would have to do soon in order to move to the next class. As far as the Match up, Wiggins had good success on the outside Vs Randle but Randle had more success inside while showing some on the outside as well. Randle was more of the get everyone involved guy though and overall won the match up.

Fans sleep on Parker because he isn't as athletic but he is more skilled than both and has a higher basketball IQ than both. Wiggins and Randle have higher celings because they are more athletic while being skilled though

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Highlights from the camp

Here are some highlights, featuring a good deal of Wiggins/Randle. Randle puts on a dunk clinic which is pretty damn impressive. The thing with Randle that I think separates him from a Michael Beasley is his court vision, he is a very adept passer. His length does not appear to be otherworldly, but he has the strength and ability at his size that make him one of the top prospects in this HS Class (or any HS Class, for that matter).

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Agreed. I think his handles

Agreed. I think his handles and athletic ability seperates him from Beasley as well. Beasley has him on shooting though. It's scary how much he reminds me of Webber when i watched him in H.S

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTYiW8l8wX8

If you get a second watch this clipof Beasley in HS. the similarities are really blatant to me

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Seems like almost everyone

Seems like almost everyone loses some of their bounce once they get to the NBA

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I think Both are great

I think Both are great talents. The difference is face up 4's have a much harder time dominating the ball than a sg/sf. Randle will be dependant on guards and a system that plays to his strengths. Much like PJ3 just went through if he gets a coach that wants to play him as a traditional back to basket 4 then he will run into problems because that is not his game. If he plays in a double post offence he could struggle also due to lack of space to drive into with another big waiting in the paint.

Wiggins is not going to the have that problem it is scary but if you designed the perfect wing player you would be pretty much make Wiggins. His athleticism is off the charts, his skill level is increasing at a speed I have never seen before. In a year he has basically not only cuaught up to the top players in his class and class above, but by many accounts surpassed them. At his current trajectory by this time next year it won't even be a discussion of who is best in high school. The discussion will comparing him to Lebron, Kobe and Garnett. It is not that Wiggins is just very good, its that he is getting better and better so quickly and that every part he adds to his game seems so easy for him. Even though Jabari is more skilled right now he looks close to his ceiling, which still makes hime great player Wiggins doesn't seem close at all it looks like he is still figuring out how good he can be.

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Randle can play while not

Randle can play while not handling the ball. In now way is he like PJ because he actually attacks the glass for rebounds and posts up as well as having post moves. The players Randle are compared too had to rely on a pg to get the ball(Webber and Beasley) and they did pretty well for themselves while needing a PG.

I'm really starting to wonder how many people have actually watched Randle play because it sounds like most on here are going off just his YouTube clips. The kid is a very good back to the basket player

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if you wonder how many people

if you wonder how many people have seen him play a full game, i would say about 3 people in the entire website.

i've havent seen him play, i've seen all his videos though. i can tell you right now he has a much better back to basket than pj3, and terrence jones. the guy has a very soft touch around the rim, knows how to use the backboard, and most importantly is able to finish thru contact. he is a monster in the lows, i can see that. my thing is that his perimeter game is over rated

if julius randle ends up a better player than wiggins IN THE NBA, i would be extremely surprised.

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@F_S. Thats the perfect

@F_S. Thats the perfect scouting report about his game. He actually used to be mostly a back to the basket player before he got better at handling the ball and shooting the ball. Now he can punish you on the block or handle the ball and hit the midrange. His outside game has gotten much more consistent this summer (according to scout.com and Rivals scouts who have watched him this summer). Last year it was so inconsistent that people would tell him to stop handling the ball or shooting from midrange but now it's a very strong part of his game.

Personally I have no problem with him doing it since he will need to do those things in the NBA, you don't get much better as a 6'9 240 big in H.S overpowering 6'4 centers all game

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@F_S. Thats the perfect

@F_S. Thats the perfect scouting report about his game. He actually used to be mostly a back to the basket player before he got better at handling the ball and shooting the ball. Now he can punish you on the block or handle the ball and hit the midrange. His outside game has gotten much more consistent this summer (according to scout.com and Rivals scouts who have watched him this summer). Last year it was so inconsistent that people would tell him to stop handling the ball or shooting from midrange but now it's a very strong part of his game.

Personally I have no problem with him doing it since he will need to do those things in the NBA, you don't get much better as a 6'9 240 big in H.S overpowering 6'4 centers all game

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Beasley was

was a go to guy who could and would bring the ball up , or post high or post low or spot up. Never having to r'rely' on a pg as such. I think this why bigmen diversify their game so much so they dont have to post and wait for some guard. But Dont get it twisted Beasley was a complete as it gets on the HS level.

Also think Randle has great foortwork as he never really runs trhoungh guys he more put them on his hip and goes. quite quickly for 6'9 240.

Interestingly Wiggins doesnt really strike me as being a 1 on 1 ball handler at this stage(in an attacking sense). Hell blow by you with two quick dribbles off the jab step . or rock you with a cross over and the pull up. A system/timing slasher opposed to a creating slasher. I think once he gets that it could be over. needs somw weight room time too eh

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^^^ and that is very dangerus

^^^ and that is very dangerus for a defender who has to guard him (Wiggins) because most of the time a H.S player or even college player with that God given athletic ability will just try to fly past you but he already uses jab steps,quick dribbles and other moves that Vet NBA guards use (I'm sure his former NBA dad has alot ot do with that). This kid's game was already good as a freshman and soph but he has gotten much better at the little fundamental things at a very fast rate. He doesn't have that Kobe/Jordan killer in him yet but hopefully it will come so he can maximize his potential

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