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- Posted on: Fri, 05/16/2014 - 1:53pm #55480
For_Never_EverParticipant - Posted on: Fri, 05/16/2014 - 2:05pm #902460
TRC1991ParticipantThe twitter link isn’t working…any idea what the measurement was?
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/16/2014 - 2:05pm #902576
TRC1991ParticipantThe twitter link isn’t working…any idea what the measurement was?
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/16/2014 - 2:12pm #902464
For_Never_EverParticipantSupposedly it’s 44 inches from what Andrew Wiggins agent have put out.
https://twitter.com/chadfordinsider/status/467372859019784192/photo/1
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/16/2014 - 2:12pm #902580
For_Never_EverParticipantSupposedly it’s 44 inches from what Andrew Wiggins agent have put out.
https://twitter.com/chadfordinsider/status/467372859019784192/photo/1
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/16/2014 - 2:24pm #902474
For_Never_EverParticipantI have a hard time believing it’s 44 inches.
I looked at other video’s of guys getting up around the 40/41 inch mark, and comparing it looked around the same area to me.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/16/2014 - 2:24pm #902590
For_Never_EverParticipantI have a hard time believing it’s 44 inches.
I looked at other video’s of guys getting up around the 40/41 inch mark, and comparing it looked around the same area to me.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/16/2014 - 2:43pm #902486
Memphis MadnessParticipantIf it is 44 inches that’s great. If not, it is probably still 42 inches or so.
I am trying to figure out his wingspan from that pic. Solid but not freakish. I would bet it is less than James Young’s.
I have Wiggins at number 1. A mail order small forward with the talent and potential to play the 2.
Look at the NBA’s Final Four: LeBron, Durant, Paul George, and Kawhi Leonard. It might be a coincidence but it might not.
Elite two-way wings win in the NBA.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/16/2014 - 2:43pm #902602
Memphis MadnessParticipantIf it is 44 inches that’s great. If not, it is probably still 42 inches or so.
I am trying to figure out his wingspan from that pic. Solid but not freakish. I would bet it is less than James Young’s.
I have Wiggins at number 1. A mail order small forward with the talent and potential to play the 2.
Look at the NBA’s Final Four: LeBron, Durant, Paul George, and Kawhi Leonard. It might be a coincidence but it might not.
Elite two-way wings win in the NBA.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/16/2014 - 2:46pm #902492
highflyer0ParticipantI don’t know about you guys, but all the hype that that picture is generating is getting a bit annoying to me. All of these people who have never seen a basketball before are commenting about how unbelievable it is. I’m sure if you put a picture of Lavine, Robinson III, or Markel Brown doing the test it would look exactly the same. In fact, these same people would be just as impressed by a 36 inch vertical because there is no context surrounding the picture. I’m not trying to be a killjoy, as I think Wiggins is an insane athlete and the picture is fun to look at, but for it to be trending for days on twitter/facebook is sort of stupid.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/16/2014 - 2:46pm #902608
highflyer0ParticipantI don’t know about you guys, but all the hype that that picture is generating is getting a bit annoying to me. All of these people who have never seen a basketball before are commenting about how unbelievable it is. I’m sure if you put a picture of Lavine, Robinson III, or Markel Brown doing the test it would look exactly the same. In fact, these same people would be just as impressed by a 36 inch vertical because there is no context surrounding the picture. I’m not trying to be a killjoy, as I think Wiggins is an insane athlete and the picture is fun to look at, but for it to be trending for days on twitter/facebook is sort of stupid.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/16/2014 - 3:06pm #902501
Lotto StudParticipantI’m not downplaying the fact that 44” isn’t high at all but I expected something unreal when it came to talks of Wiggins before he tested for this. More so I look at a guy like Shane Larkin who matched what he posted yesterday, although Larkin’s vert does not translate it has to say raise eyebrows even more now.
Anyone bummed out as I am about the number because it was not in the 46-47” range?
0- Posted on: Fri, 05/16/2014 - 3:49pm #902521
Ebown5ParticipantAnything over 40 is a really high vertical, so 44 is truly elite leaping ability. However, there are many other things that go into athleticism than just vertical and Wiggins is elite in all of those areas as well, such as speed, quickness, balance, body control, length, etc…
The day he steps on to the court in the nba he will be one of the, if not the greatest, athlete in the league. I would put Lebron and Westbrook in his class, but he just might be the best of them all in terms of pure athleticism. To me, he reminds me of a 6’7 Iverson in terms of what he can do athletically, or an even faster version of Vince Carter.
If he lands on a team with a good point guard and a quick pace like the sixers he is going to be a terror from day one. His skills need to develop still, but he will be a nightly highlight reel.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/16/2014 - 3:49pm #902638
Ebown5ParticipantAnything over 40 is a really high vertical, so 44 is truly elite leaping ability. However, there are many other things that go into athleticism than just vertical and Wiggins is elite in all of those areas as well, such as speed, quickness, balance, body control, length, etc…
The day he steps on to the court in the nba he will be one of the, if not the greatest, athlete in the league. I would put Lebron and Westbrook in his class, but he just might be the best of them all in terms of pure athleticism. To me, he reminds me of a 6’7 Iverson in terms of what he can do athletically, or an even faster version of Vince Carter.
If he lands on a team with a good point guard and a quick pace like the sixers he is going to be a terror from day one. His skills need to develop still, but he will be a nightly highlight reel.
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- Posted on: Fri, 05/16/2014 - 3:06pm #902618
Lotto StudParticipantI’m not downplaying the fact that 44” isn’t high at all but I expected something unreal when it came to talks of Wiggins before he tested for this. More so I look at a guy like Shane Larkin who matched what he posted yesterday, although Larkin’s vert does not translate it has to say raise eyebrows even more now.
Anyone bummed out as I am about the number because it was not in the 46-47” range?
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/16/2014 - 3:06pm #902499
WinterSoldierParticipantIf you look at the pic, his feet are maybe about half way up the guys body. If that’s 44" the guy would have to be at 7’4". He could be really tall but to me he looks shorter than wiggins.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/16/2014 - 3:06pm #902616
WinterSoldierParticipantIf you look at the pic, his feet are maybe about half way up the guys body. If that’s 44" the guy would have to be at 7’4". He could be really tall but to me he looks shorter than wiggins.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/16/2014 - 3:29pm #902513
Memphis MadnessParticipantI’m with you Richie. The guy next to him would have to be a legit 7 footer for that to be a 4 inch plus vertical.
Could be a 36 to 38 inch vertical based on his friend’s height. Not bad for a no-step vert but not that great for a max vertical.
his wingspan isn’t too elite either.
0- Posted on: Fri, 05/16/2014 - 3:56pm #902523
Ebown5ParticipantIt looks like it could be 44 to me. You have to count to his heels and not his toes, which are pointing down.
His heels are above the guy’s belly button, and he looks pretty tall to me. I’m only 5’10 and I have a 30 inch in seem in my pants and that goes from my groin to my ankles. Add another 3 inches for my feet and 8-10 inches up to my belly button and that would be 41-43 right there, and this guy looks taller than that to me.
So even if my measurement estimations are a bit off, if this guy is 6’2 or so it would make this 44 inches pretty easily to me.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/16/2014 - 3:56pm #902640
Ebown5ParticipantIt looks like it could be 44 to me. You have to count to his heels and not his toes, which are pointing down.
His heels are above the guy’s belly button, and he looks pretty tall to me. I’m only 5’10 and I have a 30 inch in seem in my pants and that goes from my groin to my ankles. Add another 3 inches for my feet and 8-10 inches up to my belly button and that would be 41-43 right there, and this guy looks taller than that to me.
So even if my measurement estimations are a bit off, if this guy is 6’2 or so it would make this 44 inches pretty easily to me.
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- Posted on: Fri, 05/16/2014 - 3:29pm #902630
Memphis MadnessParticipantI’m with you Richie. The guy next to him would have to be a legit 7 footer for that to be a 4 inch plus vertical.
Could be a 36 to 38 inch vertical based on his friend’s height. Not bad for a no-step vert but not that great for a max vertical.
his wingspan isn’t too elite either.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/16/2014 - 4:04pm #902525
WinterSoldierParticipantLet me clarify I’m not saying Wiggins doesn’t have a 44" vertical I’m only saying that isn’t a pic of a 44" vertical.
0- Posted on: Fri, 05/16/2014 - 6:00pm #902668
FritzParticipantThe odds of snapping a photo exactly at his peak of his jump are small, even if he is 40” high in the photo doesnt mean he doesnt go a couple more inches after the photo is snapped. But I dont think you can accurately judge how high he is based on the camera angle. 44′ is extremely impressive I was hoping for a 45-46, not that it really makes a difference.
His wingspan is 7’4” I believe, at least 7’2”. If you haven’t seen it already sports science does a good job breaking down how much of a freak he is.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/16/2014 - 6:00pm #902551
FritzParticipantThe odds of snapping a photo exactly at his peak of his jump are small, even if he is 40” high in the photo doesnt mean he doesnt go a couple more inches after the photo is snapped. But I dont think you can accurately judge how high he is based on the camera angle. 44′ is extremely impressive I was hoping for a 45-46, not that it really makes a difference.
His wingspan is 7’4” I believe, at least 7’2”. If you haven’t seen it already sports science does a good job breaking down how much of a freak he is.
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- Posted on: Fri, 05/16/2014 - 4:04pm #902642
WinterSoldierParticipantLet me clarify I’m not saying Wiggins doesn’t have a 44" vertical I’m only saying that isn’t a pic of a 44" vertical.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/16/2014 - 6:57pm #902692
properbreaksParticipantIt’s hard to judge those measurements to me. As far as REALLY knowing who’s the highest leaper in the league…..Because it never judges someone’s MAXIMUM leaping ability when you think about it. That’s just situational. It’s like you are only judging a post playa executing a drop step.
If you want to see who jumps the highest; let them get as many steps as they want and we’ll really see who jumps the highest. 2 steps are not enough…. BEcause I’m telling you, jordan , james White and Labron WONT have the highest verts or 2 steps into a vert. But when they are unleashed…. And when they get however many steps it’s no competition.
If you really want to say who I think jumps the highest ever as an NBA player at a time in his career; it’s Flight White. He didn’t look like it at around 30 last year at the dunk contest. But believe me, this dude double pumped with two hands from the free throw line!!!!! I’m dead serious….. Windmilled from the freethrowline which I thought was impossible….
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/16/2014 - 6:57pm #902575
properbreaksParticipantIt’s hard to judge those measurements to me. As far as REALLY knowing who’s the highest leaper in the league…..Because it never judges someone’s MAXIMUM leaping ability when you think about it. That’s just situational. It’s like you are only judging a post playa executing a drop step.
If you want to see who jumps the highest; let them get as many steps as they want and we’ll really see who jumps the highest. 2 steps are not enough…. BEcause I’m telling you, jordan , james White and Labron WONT have the highest verts or 2 steps into a vert. But when they are unleashed…. And when they get however many steps it’s no competition.
If you really want to say who I think jumps the highest ever as an NBA player at a time in his career; it’s Flight White. He didn’t look like it at around 30 last year at the dunk contest. But believe me, this dude double pumped with two hands from the free throw line!!!!! I’m dead serious….. Windmilled from the freethrowline which I thought was impossible….
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/16/2014 - 7:28pm #902696
BigMac12111ParticipantOkay, so this takes a bit of explaining, but at the end of the day I believe Wiggins has a max vertical in the 42-44 range.
So, first thing to do is to get Wiggins’ reach. The last time he was measured, he was 6’8" with a 7’0" wingspan; another website with averages of the length measurements lists that a player with Wiggins’ numbers would roughly have an 8’11" reach. Step one done.
Next thing is to determine how tall the equipment is. As far as I know, this is the same apparatus that Jeremy Evans touched 12’7.5" at last year, which is also the maximum height. With that said, the only other conclusion I could draw is that isn’t the same machine or at the very least they increased the max height. In other words, I either think that is the same apparatus that has a max of 12’7.5" or a new one with a max of 13′.
Next to last is to actually figure out how far up Wiggins got. Those little slots supposedly increase the height by half an inch increments so that makes this a bit easier. Based on the pictures I’ve seen, I believe that after the jump, there still would’ve been 6-7 slots left untouched; that means we can simply take off 3.5 inches from the max height (I go conservative on my estimates) to figure out what Wiggins actually touched at. So once we do that, then, again since the max height is unknown, that means it is anywhere from 12’4" to 12’8.5".
Last thing to do is simply some math problems. The max height (after taking the slots into account) in inches turns out to be anywhere from 148 to 152.5 inches; Wiggins’ reach comes out to 107 inches; subtract that from both totals and we get a vertical that ranges from 41-45.5. Now, the reason why that isn’t what I put originally is that I felt like I went way too conservative in my estimates in regard to the lengths so I cut off a little on each side. Thus we get that Wiggins vertical is somewhere from 42-44 (basically the numbers that most have thrown out; so this was worthless).
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/16/2014 - 7:28pm #902579
BigMac12111ParticipantOkay, so this takes a bit of explaining, but at the end of the day I believe Wiggins has a max vertical in the 42-44 range.
So, first thing to do is to get Wiggins’ reach. The last time he was measured, he was 6’8" with a 7’0" wingspan; another website with averages of the length measurements lists that a player with Wiggins’ numbers would roughly have an 8’11" reach. Step one done.
Next thing is to determine how tall the equipment is. As far as I know, this is the same apparatus that Jeremy Evans touched 12’7.5" at last year, which is also the maximum height. With that said, the only other conclusion I could draw is that isn’t the same machine or at the very least they increased the max height. In other words, I either think that is the same apparatus that has a max of 12’7.5" or a new one with a max of 13′.
Next to last is to actually figure out how far up Wiggins got. Those little slots supposedly increase the height by half an inch increments so that makes this a bit easier. Based on the pictures I’ve seen, I believe that after the jump, there still would’ve been 6-7 slots left untouched; that means we can simply take off 3.5 inches from the max height (I go conservative on my estimates) to figure out what Wiggins actually touched at. So once we do that, then, again since the max height is unknown, that means it is anywhere from 12’4" to 12’8.5".
Last thing to do is simply some math problems. The max height (after taking the slots into account) in inches turns out to be anywhere from 148 to 152.5 inches; Wiggins’ reach comes out to 107 inches; subtract that from both totals and we get a vertical that ranges from 41-45.5. Now, the reason why that isn’t what I put originally is that I felt like I went way too conservative in my estimates in regard to the lengths so I cut off a little on each side. Thus we get that Wiggins vertical is somewhere from 42-44 (basically the numbers that most have thrown out; so this was worthless).
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/16/2014 - 10:12pm #902724
Magic JordanParticipantSeeing how my calculus skills are exceptional I would like to be able to give you guys a definitive answer, however with no shadow, no information on the light source casting said shadow and no idea how far the camera is distanced (could have a slight zoom). I really can’t help out. I am inclined to say that 44 inches is accurate.
Taking into account the yard measurements on the floor, the outlets on the wall which are commonly placed 12 to 16 inches above the ground I put his toes at about 36-38 inches off the ground. Add about 3 to his heals and take into account he has yet to slap the stick during this pic(the things were moved from a previous point because nobody slaps it then pulls their hand back) so obviously he is still rising maybe another inch and it is safe to conclude that it isn’t hyperbole from his agent. Still speculation but safe speculation.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/16/2014 - 10:12pm #902607
Magic JordanParticipantSeeing how my calculus skills are exceptional I would like to be able to give you guys a definitive answer, however with no shadow, no information on the light source casting said shadow and no idea how far the camera is distanced (could have a slight zoom). I really can’t help out. I am inclined to say that 44 inches is accurate.
Taking into account the yard measurements on the floor, the outlets on the wall which are commonly placed 12 to 16 inches above the ground I put his toes at about 36-38 inches off the ground. Add about 3 to his heals and take into account he has yet to slap the stick during this pic(the things were moved from a previous point because nobody slaps it then pulls their hand back) so obviously he is still rising maybe another inch and it is safe to conclude that it isn’t hyperbole from his agent. Still speculation but safe speculation.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/16/2014 - 10:15pm #902726
GronounoursParticipantThe hype is kinda ridiculous. A couple of inches more or less, who knows? Is it that important anyway?
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/16/2014 - 10:15pm #902609
GronounoursParticipantThe hype is kinda ridiculous. A couple of inches more or less, who knows? Is it that important anyway?
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/17/2014 - 4:02am #902750
torontoraptors10ParticipantWow that’s crazy!
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/17/2014 - 4:02am #902633
torontoraptors10ParticipantWow that’s crazy!
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