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Andrew Wiggins becoming a cancer

Word is out that he wants to be the man. My response to it all is...

It’s guys like him that we sit back 5-10 years from now and say they ruined the operation. He wanted to get paid like a max player and they made it happen. He cannot afford to demand everything when he’s done nothing to elevate his team’s play.


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Players named Evan Fournier

Players named Evan Fournier and Tobias Harris make far less and have similar (if not better) production as him at a far more efficient rate. I was actually upset they didn't have Wiggins in the deal to the Bulls. It was said they either wanted Lavine and the 7th pick or just Wiggins for Butler and their pick. I have never been high on Wiggins, saw him play a bunch in high school in person and saw all his college games. Never been engaged in the game, that doesn't mean he hasn't had big number games because he surely has.

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Trading Wiggins would make

Trading Wiggins would make alot of sense for the Wolves. They currently expect him to play a Rip Hamilton type role taking tough shots moving off screeens and playing hard D. Thats not really playing him to his strengths and they could trade for a player that can thrive in that role and likely still get more in return for Wiggins. As mentioned above Im sure a team like Orlando would be happy to move a guy like Fournier and some to acquire Wiggins and mix it up.

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You don't want to give up too early

But the Wolves have to start looking at this as a 15 month window. Wiggins has been a huge disappointment this year. They would be better off with a real small forward. Wiggins for Barnes? I've heard Dallas fans say they would sell him for peanuts. They would have to be happy w/ a Wiggins return. I think Barnes would at least fit into the T Wolves lineup better than AW. Similar contracts starting next year.

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it seems like

He doesn't want to do the extra job to be a franchise player.

32% from 3, 63% from the free throw line, only 1.8as and 1 steal in 36min is very disappointing for someone with his potential. he needs to wake up quick before he's considered a disappointment

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Entitlement

Why would he ask to be the alpha when he doesn't produce alpha numbers? It's not that he sucks, his numbers are decent. But I remember the hype on this kid being the next Lebron James (Yikes). And I don't see Lebronesque stats. This kid is messing up. I'm a Sixers fan, and it's fortunate that Embiid (even with his injuries) falls on us.

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1. He's averaging the most

1. He's averaging the most shots on the team and stealing about 5 shots that KAT should be taking

2. It's hilarious that he thinks he's better than Jimmy or KAT

This guy should and could be Kawhi-esque but it seems he just doesn't want to put in the work

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Wiggins has what's called a

Wiggins has what's called a "poison-pill contract," which is something I don't really understand but it makes him very hard to trade. I played around with the ESPN trade machine for awhile and couldn't figure out any way to do a Wiggins-Fournier or Wiggins-Barnes swap.

You can, however, build a trade around Wiggins for Porzingis. You're welcome, Knicks fans!

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He doesn't have a "poison

He doesn't have a "poison pill" contract. He is still on his rookie deal this year that is why you can trade him straight up for KP but can't for Fournier or Barnes- their salaries don't add up yet. His max extension kicks in next year.

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You can't trade him straight

You can't trade him straight up for KP according to espn.com's trade machine -- Minnesota would have to absorb an extra $20 mil in salary from the Knicks to make it work. Maybe that's not true in real life, I don't know. In my hypothetical trade Minny also took back Noah and I think Courtney Lee.

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wheres was

this report ? Is there a link?

I dont know what people expected when they added Butler though to be honest.

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Source?

Since there's no source on this, its also just as likely that Jimmy Butler is the team cancer. He's been known to have a problem with pecking orders, Wiggins seems too laid back to really care.

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The cancer who took a 30-win

The cancer who took a 30-win team and had them at 34-22 when he played? That would be an odd definition of cancer.

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Not true

Thats not completely true, this Bulls team has been gutted & demolished in comparison to last yr so to say Butler is the only reason they suck now is crazy. But what is true is that NO ONE on that team liked him and he rubbed everyone, including the coach and front office the wrong way

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The Timberwolves were a 30

The Timberwolves were a 30 win team last year, and were transformed by their acquisition of Butler. To imply he is a problem there is absurd.

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Like I said no source, no

Like I said no source, no reason to really think its anything more than blog rumor...there may not be a problem on the Twolves. But IF there is some chemistry related rumblings, I'd bet its around Jimmy & not Wiggins

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I understand that this is

I understand that this is just a rumor. My issue is that you took a rumor and tried to deflect the accusation from one onto another. If you just want to be dismissive of it, fine. I think this originated from something Darren Wolfson mentioned in a radio interview about Wiggins not liking being the third option behind Jimmy Butler and Karl Anthony Towns. Maybe there is something here, maybe not. That said, your redirective critique of Butler being a cancer in an attempt to dismiss the original thought does not make sense.

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As a Bulls Fan

I watched Jimmy Butler his entire time in Chicago...you can simultaneously be a cancer while also contributing to a playoff team. He showed that on the Bulls last year.

Not redirecting, because there's nothing verified or factual to redirect...just rumor. My point is that since its all just rumor anyway, what is a known fact is that Jimmy has much more of a reputation of shaking things up than Wiggins

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The media is garbage

The point is that even if Wiggins has reason/ motive to be frustrated that he hasn't intentionally come out to criticize/ damage anyone in the Wolves organization or demand any change. I am sure it has been a trying season and career for him due to the expectations placed on him and if he expressed anything to anyone privately and they went to the media then that person is a problem if anything.

Wiggins aside from his disappointing play has always conducted himself well enough to earn the benefit of the doubt from fans, media and people outside of the organization and to just start jumping on him like a bunch of angry villagers (smh).

Additionally was Kyrie a cancer in Cleveland in retrospect or just a symptom of something much bigger/ more complicated. Has anyone heard anything awful about Jahlil Okafor since he left Philly etc?

I think we as fans need to start asking more of the media around us because they are just writing stories geared towards our insatiable hunger for another story after another story. Maybe some players aren't team oriented or born unselfish leaders. Maybe sometimes certain coaches and mgmt as much as players are not great fits. But can't we just leave it as that and move on? Techinically there are 29 teams every year that need to make some adjustments on some level to improve and yeah maybe Wiggins needs something to unlock his potential and maybe that is not in Minnesota where he has to defer so much to other talented players. I think you put him into a Oladipo/ Indiana type situation and he would flourish and all of the current pundits and critics would be singing his praises.

Which brings me to where the true blame really lies no matter what was said. It has to rest on the Timberwolves front office. They re-signed Wiggins, traded for Butler, hired Thibodeau, signed Crawford and signed Teague (I think this was their silliest move as imagine someone like a Patrick Beverley with a more reasonable contract and 3 and D oriented would compliment this cast more). Ultimately the organization needs to make this work or re-group in the offseason to fix it because there is enough talent there to compete on the top level and do this all without drama or media "leaks".

Btw the way "cancer" is a pretty strong word. Enough of us have been impacted by real cancer to know how crushing and serious it is. It really shouldn't be used to describe athletes unless a situation is truly so toxic that there seems to be no other word.

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Wiggins is 46th in RPM among

Wiggins is 46th in RPM among 90 SFs. He’s been an enormous disappointment. He can score the ball with his size and athleticism but he has been a MASSIVE liability when it comes to defending, facilitating, and rebounding.

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This was a link from

This was a link from bballreference - one of the best nba websites around

https://fadeawayworld.com/2018/03/16/source-andrew-wiggins-unhappy-with-...

Its funny, the knock on him leading up to nba draft was that he did not have that "alpha dog" mentality, now he wants to be the alpha dog on a very good wolves team.

If he wants to be number 1, request a trade to Atlanta or Brooklyn so he can score 25ppg on 40% fg and be the alpha dog on a lotto team.

Andrew Wiggins needs to play more team ball and not concentrate on scoring. Concentrate on passing, rebounding and defense. He would get much more respect being a 15-5-5 type of guy on a contending / championship team ala Iguodola or Tay Prince

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