With the first pick in the 2015 nba draft, the Los Angeles Lakers select Andrew Wiggins, SF from the University of Kentucky.....I could be wrong, but is this the best 14 yearold ever to lace them up???
he is in my radar, but I wouldn't put him as a #1 draft pick yet. We all thought Brandon Knight was the best PG in this draft class until Kyrie Irving stole the show. We all thought Austin Rivers was the best prospect in the 2012 draft, until Anthony Davis wowed us in Mcdonald's game. This guy won't come out for 4 more years at least. A lot can happen in four years.
The difference between the players you mentioned and WIGGINS is the fact that Wiggins is only a freshman and hes a legit 6'7'' 210 and has been playing for his national team since 8th grade....obviously theres along ways away b4 2015, but this kid certainly passes the eye test, has great lineage and is mature beyond his years. I dont want to jump the gun, but this kid is going to be special!!!www.youtube.com/user/GTABasketball
slow your role wardb12, not EVERYONE thought knight would be the best...i could tell ever since the mickey d's all-american game that Irving was the best pg in the class
Doesnt matter what video you watch...the kids a BEAST...and I'm almsot inclined to say hes even better than LeBron was at this age(certainly has better genes)!!!
THAT KID IS THE TRUTH!!!!!!. Did anyone watch the Jordan Brand international game? He was killing it. Had 20points
Is he only gonna be a freshman? He's a 16 year old incoming freshman that means he will be a 20 year old sr
He wasnt in the jordan classic...lol...dudes only a 15 year old freshman in Canada none the less...I guarntee hed hold his own though if he did play in the game...i watched him play against the USA under 17 team last year when he was 14 and in the 8th grade...lol...he BOOFED it on Gilchrest's head...if he stays hungry, no doubt in my mind he will be one we talk about for YEARS to come!!!
Jordan classic international game. There are games before the Jordan classic.
I actually think there are two games before the Jordan class. International and a regional. It may not be called a regional though
I thought you were talking about last nights game...my bad...heres another taste of things to come(hes only 14 in this video)...ENJOY!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnyy59hEpKg
He actually reminds me of Gilchrist at the same stage. Gilchrist as a freshman was talked about as one of the best players reguardless of class and out played alot of the top players in older classes during the summer. That might be the same path Wiggins is on. Just like Gilchrist he has no were to go but down as other players start to develop ( its obvious that he has developed earlier then others his age as far as physical abilities. Hopefully he will continue to get better and hold off all challengers( if he becomes the top ranked player in his class)
Good anaolgy with Gilchrist....theres defiently a similarity as far as the hype is concerned as well as similar body development at that age...I have to say though, watching Gilchrist his freshman year and comparing that to 14 yearold Wiggins, it seems as if Wiggins game is more polished, of course this is just my opinion...either way you slice it, no one can deny the potential greatness this kid possess.
and he likes to play Yu-gi-oh and Bakugan
I'm not sure he's as polished though. Gilchriust was very polished which was why he was hyped so much. He played hard and had a very high IQ for his age. He played within his self and didnt try to do too much out of his skill level
Its like splitting atoms I guess comparing freshman phenoms. There is so much time to develop you never really know how it will turn out. If I had to choose whos game "looks" better at 15 years of age I got to go with Wiggins.
I'd go with Giclchrist because of his constant motor and the fact he has played against better comp longer. With Wiggins i see a constant trend that scouts write about him which is he sometimes coasts and doesn't bring it 100 percent all the time. Either way he has to improve. tjhere have been many kids who looked great as freshmen but didnt improve much
Right now he has to prove what he can do against the elite players in the U.S.A since every thing he has done has been against far inferior Talent. I'm still curious as to why he is 16 and is only gonna be a freshman. Thats too old to be a freshman
"I'm still curious as to why he is 16 and is only gonna be a freshman. Thats too old to be a freshman"
No, he was a freshman and is going into his sophomore year. I think he's in the class of 2014, but some people say he's in 10th grade, and Scout.com has him listed in the class of 2015.
Well...I believe he is 15...whats his BDAY??? You are right about him not giving100 percent effort all the time though, but that is an easy fix. Canadian HS ball is not as good as the states, but its not too far behind. He has played against quality competition though with the CANADIAN national team....he was 14 at the time and definetly held his own although his lack of effort at times was noticeable...but 14 years old playing against this type of competition is pretty impressive either way you cut it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHz2ja-mQ0w&feature=related...this is when he was in 8th grade, playing against players like rakeem christmas and james macadoo...pretty good competion for a 14 year old.
And i just read the first post all the way through...you're getting ahead of you're self if you think he's the best 15 year old to ever lace them up. He's good but there have been better. one that comes to mind is Schea cotton who wasn't just the best in his age group but was easily top 5-10 reguardless of class. Wiggins hasn't been mentioned as one of the best reguardless of class
I was just trying to have an attention grabber with that line, but I still dont believe its TOO far fetched, I mean look at the film...dude is 15....I repeat 15...flat out STUD...plus having a father that played in the NBA and an olympic spriter for a mother is definetly a good base as far as developing a good work ethic...obviosuly its a lilttle premature to put him in the hall of fame...but I havent seen any 15 yearolds that can touch this kid...Tre Lyles and Jayln Lindsay are good players, but I believe Wiggins tops them.
"Andrew Wiggins is about as smooth and athletic a wing prospect as you'll find at this age. Just turned 16 two months ago. That's scary."
From a certain scout's twitter page a couple days ago.
Okay...well all the video i posted was him at 14 and 15...so him turing 16 two months ago means he still played basically all his freshman year as a 15 yearold...either way its not like hes a BISMAK BIYOMBO with the age thing...bottom line hes a baller!
How do you think some of these american kids who were ranked number one as freshmen (mayo, Sydney etc ) would have done against that same canadian competition? We are talking about freshmen who did work against some of the top players in classes 3 years older. Thats alot different than doing that against those canadian kids. He's talented but to say he's one of the best ever at his age is taking it too far
They wenrt 6'7 210 at 15....and what are you trying to say???....that this kid wouldnt do well playing HS basketball in the states??? We all know thats a fallacy.
Not saying he wouldn't do well but you're statement is the best or one of the best to ever lace them up at his age group without thinking about some of the kids in the past who did the same thing or better at that same age. Plus the hype should be tempered until he does it against top player sin the states compared to the players he played against in Canada. Very big difference in comp level. Tristian Thompson is another Canadian who dominated at that same rate at that same age. In order to be in the company of the best or the best that ever did it at that age you have to do things that hasn't or very rarely has been done
And i ask about 16 because 16 as a freshman makes you 20 as a sr. thats two years
okay...well like I said, if he turned 16 two months ago, that means he still played 80 percent of his freshman year as a 15 yearold. 20 as a senior??? He will be 19 his freshman year of college, so that isnt true. As far as "the best to ever lace them up" I was trying to start a post...my first by the way, so I needed an attention grabber.......for his age...and skill level...right now in this day and age, against all HS players his age...I believe if hes not the best he certainly is a close second(reguardless if he plays in canada)!!!
Sydney was 6'9 230 not that height and weight means anything as far as being a best ever
There was a kid from texas who ened up being a McDonald's All American. He was 6'7 230 of muscle. Played the 2,3,4,5 and averaged 30ppg as a high school freshman in a very tough League name is Glendon Alexander
Schea cotton was on the Cover of Sports illustrated because he went to camps as a freshman and was ranked as one of the top 5 players in each camp and number on in a couple of camps
Felipe Lopez dominated older players in camps as a freshman and was considered on of the best players reguardless of class
Tim thomas was a 6'10 220 unstoppable freshman with handles,jumperpower and dominated older players
Not even gonna mention Kareem Jabbar Because he was ranked top 5 in the nation as a freshman
Oscar Roberson, Pistol Pete put up 28-35 ppg game as freshmen while leading there teams to very high rankings and state titles if I'm not mistaken
Edmund Saunders was a 6'8 215 SF out of CT with a jumper handles defense and athletic ability and dominated in camps and in H.S as a freshman
Dermarr Johnson 6'9 205 was so good as a freshman and soph that NBA players said he could play int he NBA after his Soph season
Keith Bogans was a 6'5 210 freshman that destroyed older players and was considered the number 1 Freshman in the nation behind Johnson after killing Tim Thomas team and dunking on him 3 different times. Had a jumper, Pro body and pro game
Jabari Parker from Chi-Town is considered one of the best players in his class( soph i think) and he's 6'7 2 something
My point is not to say Wiggins isn't good which he is from what Ive seen, but there's no proof to say he' one of the best to ever lace them up for his age especially since all the dominating he has done have been against guys who will be in low level D2 at best. The best player he played against up there was the pango's kid if I'm not mistaken and he is gonna struggle to start at Gonzaga
did u not see the video i posted of him playing against james macado and rakeem christmas???...as far as jabari parker...lol...ive watched about 7 of jabaris games....from athelticism to handles to jumpshot...across the board...Wiggins is clearly the better player...and jabari is suposively a top 3 sophmore...i live 2 minutes away from kuran iverson...i watch him play allot...he ranked as the second best sophmore in the country...lol...not even close....WIGGINS would crush this kid...obviously its too young to say hes the best ever....like i said i was starting the post and wanted to get a conversation going...but he definetly has played good competion...not like hes playing at the local YMCA.
Wow. I have to give thanks for the shout out and love. I am Glendon Alexander and I was far from 6'7 and 230. I was between 6'4-6'5 and 210. I read some guru try to rank me between 20-25...not so fast my friend. Third team USA Today, which means top 15. I was shown no love due to my state which was considered a football state. Thanks for the love my friends. No disrespect to these kids playing now days...but they need to work on their games and put in work on the court. Too many handouts being given by these fake gurus who think they know talent.
reguardless if He played hs ball in Canada?..Canadian H.s basketball is wayyyy low compared to H.S basketball here lets not get it twisted. Pango's is what the second best player in Canada this year ( or ranked first) where would he be ranked if he played here? He hasn't proven to be the best in his age group here just yet because he hasn't played against the best enough to show that he is the best so anything said to that re guard is just a assumption with no proof. You have some kids his age( jabari Parker, Kuran Iverson) doing the same thing at the same age against much better competition so it is a slap in the face to automatically say this kid is better or much better than them if he hasn't proven it yet
So if he's one of the best to ever lace them in his age group that would make him number 1 player ahead of
In you're opinion right, since no one has claimed any of those guys are one of the best ever to lace them up
those are sophmores...hes a freshman...and yes hes better than all of them except julius randel!!!
For that Whole tournament Wiggins averaged 8ppg 3rebs 3fouls and 0 percent from three. Not bad but not great
and Wiggins would Crush Jabari based on what?..The key thing is proving all these things. So far in the summer games he has played this summer he has played well but not great and not better than Noels or Randle who are both in his class
Thjese kids are all 16 and Wiggins is 16 right?
my opinion of course...im just a bsaketball fan no one important, but from what ive seen of jabari...and what ive seen of wiggins...if im a gm...im taking wiggins...nerlens noel...NO OFFENSE whats so ever(based on what ive seen)...Julis randle...STUD...hands down.......so...back to the age thing...fine...there all the same age right now...its just Wiggins is a munch younger 16 than the rest...not that that matters....so I believe the top two 16 yearolds in the world as far as basketball is concerned are wiggins and randle...MY OPINION....this is based on me watching allot of video and live play of all the top rated freshman and sophmores not only in the US...but around the world...once again my opinion...sorry if you disagree.
his birth day is 2/95 so he's gonna be a freshman right since you keep saying he;s a freshman
Next feb he will be a 17 years old freshman
feb after that he will be a 18 years soph
feb after that a 19years old jr
feb after that he will be a 20 year old sr
Micheal Gilchrist is 17 years old now so he is a year older than a incoming freshman?..even though he started school early thats still interesting
Now if he is gonna be a soph that means he is in those other players age group and actually is probably older than them and will be older than just about every other freshman when he goes to college
hes 16 now and just finshed his freshman year(so u say)...this time next year he will be 17 and just finshed his sophmore year....a year from then he will be 18 and have just finshed his junior year... he will be 19 when he graduates HS...and he will be 19 when he becomes a freshman in college he will never be a 20 yearold senior in HS....he will be 20 when hes a lottery pick in the NBA!!!
What makes him a much younger 16 year old?..he's is behind all those other guys because he hasn't faced the comp that they have faced. You should have to prove what you can do against better comp before you get ranked ahead of guys who have proven it already. Basically he should be a upcoming Jr. based on his age not a freshman.
I'm wondering how good Drummond and Coleman and Shabazz would be considered if they were incoming freshmen like Wiggins ( they are all around the same age)
I do think he is the best playe rin his class since he is 2 years older than others in his class and shouldnt have much problem keeping it as a 20 year old sr
hes not an incoming frehsman dude...he played nearly his entire freshman year as a 15 year old...freshman are 14-15...right???...not that far outta whack...he just turned 16 one month before his freshman year was over..while iverson...randle...nerlenes...they are about to be 17...thus...hes a younger 16!!!
so he is a soph not a freshman? You keep saying he's a freshman but if he already completed his freshman year then he's a soph.
Its not so i say because im tryna figure out if he;s a incoming freshman and according to everywhere i read he is a incoming freshman which would make him a 20 year old sr since his birth day is in Feb. did i get any of that wrong?
He just finished his freshman year of HS....next year he will be a sophmore.
Thats why i kept asking why you kept saying he's a freshman. When you say someone is a freshman that means they havn't started there freshman season in H.S. Once you're done you're considered a Soph not a freshman.
And im still wondering why every site has him as a 2014 recruit. Randle, iverson, nerlens are 2013 recruits
"And im still wondering why every site has him as a 2014 recruit. Randle, iverson, nerlens are 2013 recruits"
He's not in the same class as Randle, Iverson, and Noels. He's an incoming sophomore, while all thos guys are incoming juniors.
is he repeating his freshman year?
even though the basketball season is over...they are all still in school..thus...at this moment...wiggins is still curently a freshman.....and right now...randle, noel,parker,iverson...they are curently sophmores...simple.
yeah in real world but in basketball world they are called freshmen if they are about to become freshmen.
Thanks for clearing that up OZ. So he's not in the same class and is older than player sin his class ( 19 is old as a Sr)
sorry i wasnt clear i guess...all im saying reguardless of age...hes one of the best HS basketball players in the game today!!!
there are others who share my opinion....http://sportspresstv.com/zz-andrew-wiggins-b14.php
one of the best players in his class...yeah i agree but not including every class because although he has played ok so far this summer he would not be picked as a top 25 player reguadless of class because he hasn't dominated, he has played well but not as well as the upcoming Sr's or Jr's who are top in there class
the thing about opinions is they aren't facts. Playing and proving is facts and so far this summer from playing and proving he hasn't proven he is one of the best reguardless of class. .
Which do you think holds up more proving it or people thinking it with no proof. The summer is still young so maybe he will step it up and prove he is one of the best reguardless of class but so far he has just proven he is one of the best in his class