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Andrew Wiggins

2 years ago a video emerged titled "Best 13 Year Old In The Nation?" about a Canadian phenom Andrew Wiggins. It is now 2 years later and Andrew has played his last season in Canada. Check out the OFFICIAL Andrew Wiggins 2010-11 Season Mixtape. Footage taken from season games, tournaments, and OFSAA Championships. It is a preview of what Andrew will bring south of the border for AAU and the upcoming seasons. Is he worth the hype? Here's the link:http://hoopmixtape.ning.com/profiles/blogs/andrew-wiggins-2-years-later


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hard 2 judge cause in these

hard 2 judge cause in these videos at 6'7 he is much taller then the opposing teams centers, so we'll see how he pans out once everyone catches up2 him size and weight wise

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Nice post man. The talent

Nice post man. The talent level of High school basketball in Canada is significantly lower than most U.S schools but seeing his talent is undeniable. I never seen a kid like him in all my years playing High school ball and watching it, his athleticism combined with skill and handles will translate well down south.

So playing in the states will definitely help his game grow to another level like Tristan & Cory in Texas. Pumped to see what's in this kids future!

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^^^LOL (All my years playing

^^^LOL (All my years playing highschool basketball and watching it) What is that all 5 years? Making it sound like your some guru.

The kid is nice. You have to account for size of the other teams. Along with skill level.

But if you really want to breakdown this highlight tape like a professional. You would see he makes the right reads with his reaction moves. That is the main thing i saw. His ability to read what the defense gives him for a 15 year old is quite amazing. Jump shot looks spotty though.

I see him fizzling down and being a top 10 talent A la Gilchrist and O.J Mayo

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Played 5 years High school

Played 5 years High school ball, going into 3 years of College ball, plus helped out at a few OFSAA events so I'd say I know Canadian High school ball. Thanks for coming out tho Timmy

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^^^ Lol put him in his place

^^^ Lol put him in his place Prince!

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So your bragging about 8

So your bragging about 8 years? lol you kids are funny.

So let me put you in your place. You went to school 5 years which means you retarded according to the NCAA. So while i wave my Masters in front of your face and my $231,580 (know it due to a recent tax return Yippe for not taxing the rich) Annual paycheck.

Now back to basketball, So you play 3 years of college ball which means you D3. which means you play against slightly better then highschool level talent. Still not even to brag about.

You helped out with a couple events. Not helped out for a couple year but Events. Well Mr.Prince i have watched a couple Womens NCAA game. I pretty much know everything there is to know about that. Good logic. Still not even to brag.

So instead of coming across as a pompous a-hole Prince, you should have just said i never seen him before. Instead of looking like an ignorant uneducated self rightous punk.

Thank you

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Whadadouche.

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@Tim You went to school 5

@Tim You went to school 5 years which means you retarded according to the NCAA.

I believe you forgot an "are", so lets not name call if we cant speak english correctly.

And many players go to prep schools or reclass for one reason or another.

And bragging about your pay check is weak cause for all we know you could be pulling it out of your ass. I make over 300k a year, I said it, does it make it true? no.

And if you knew about basketball you would know that many of the great basketball minds go through the D3 ranks and that D3 ball is auctually quite good, so you are showing us your ignorance. And from an unbiased reader you come off as the a-hole.

Regarding wiggins, he has all the gifts, he just needs to stay focused, and work on his skill development because it will be tempting to just dominate on athletic ability at younger ages, but when the other kids mature is when you see kids who were dominating turn into busts, or "failing to live up to potiential".

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Tim49461 I am blessed just

Tim49461 I feel blessed just to be in your presence. I am privileged to be able to read your master degree level posts and I am so honored that you would take a moment of your time to chat with the little people on this site. As I know by now, your time is very valuable, being as decorated of an individual as you are, and would be better spent elsewhere. Thank you for sharing your educated insight, as it is worth far more than any of us less educated folks' opinions. I just hope someday I can be as humble and gracious as you are. You are truly the alpha male of this site.

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@Tim49461 First off, this

@Tim49461

First off, this isn't the first time you tried to call out "kids" on here you said basically anyone and I quote 13-21 don't know sh*t about basketball. This coming from a "man" saying how the NCAA this year would be UNWATCHABLE (Yes I remember cause I thought that was the most rediculous thing you can say on an NBA Draft website).

Plus now your throwing your paycheck around on here? HAHA congratulations like MBRH said anyone can say they make that much, way to bring in something completely useless to the argument. Useless and non-relevant, sounds like your posts.

Your the mature one that was calling me out first? Trying to punk me by saying I'm some sort of guru. No idiot I just know Canadian Basketball and actually watched the OFSAA Finals where Wiggins team Vaughn played at Fanshawe College, not to mention other games where Vaughn played. So yes I do deserve to put my opinion of him on here.

I come off as pompous by putting respect for the post and you diss me for it? Classy bro.

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Tim49461 is nearly illiterate

Tim49461 is nearly illiterate and seems to be a little "retarded" himself.

Just by reading his mistake-ridden posts, I can tell you all that he is a 32 year old jobless obese man who lives in a one bedroom apartment and calls the police when people who live next to him have parties and then don't invite him because he frightens all of the women.

In the words of Tim49461 himself, "still not even to brag. Point me." (what does that EVEN mean?)

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No guys he works for

No guys he works for Kentucky. There is absolutely no way he made that up, and since he works for them as some incredibly minor scout (little overpaid if you ask me) he knows all. Every word he says is pure fact.

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Heard he's good but you cant

Heard he's good but you cant go by highlights because that's exactly what it is. It shows the players best moves, reads, shots, defense. What it doesn't show is the bad reads,passes,bad defense, bad shot selection. It will be interesting to see how well he does in the stats because there have been Canadian guys who have dominated H.S basketball out there but became top 75 players out here int he states. Won of the the best ever players from canada as far as H.S basketball was a players who's name i forget, who went to Uconn and played pretty good but not great. Dark skin kid

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@The lake show2 You're

@The lake show2

You're thinking of Denham Brown. Drafted in the 2nd round by the Supersonics than disappeared, even stopped playing on our national team a few years later.

There was a lot of hype around him at that time in Canada, I remember he scored 100 points in a High school game here haha.

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Yeah thats who it was. My boy

Yeah thats who it was. My boy D.J Wright told me he also used to do work when he was in H.S up there. He's finishing up at some college there and still putting in work. Can't remember which college though

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Yeah thats who it was. My boy

Yeah thats who it was. My boy D.J Wright told me he also used to do work when he was in H.S up there. He's finishing up at some college there and still putting in work. Can't remember which college though

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Its ok i can go down the line

Its ok i can go down the line on this one. Read your part it's sectioned off.

@MBRH. Lets first start off by saying grammar has nothing to do with intelligence(G. Bush could correctly put together a sentence, does that make him a genius. If you can understand it why bother being a Nazi). Of course it always seems to come back around to that when an argument has been lost.

2. Maybe you dont understand why a prep school was put in place. 4 years of highschool is the norm. To Reclassify means you are to retarded to get the grades. Which is why John Wall and others im sure you can think off the top of your head took the prep school route.

3. Yes great basketball minds have played D3. But majority has come from a D1 school or D2. And to say that just a handful come from D3 makes it a legitmate place shows your ignorance towards it. Just like if 3 out of 100 people dont like Mcdonalds doesnt mean Alot of people hate Mcdonalds. Learn good reasoning.

That set you in your place so Enjoy.

@The Prince

I remember this post. Yet you are wrong with your facts. If you REMEMBERED correctly i was saying next year as in 2011-12. But thanks for showing your stupidity in not being able to look up facts before you state them.

2.You're right my paycheck means nothing but to me knowing i make that much more then you puts a little twinkle in my eye.

3.So maybe once again i need to remind you of your logic. If i was to watch two games of the WNBA should i go parading around on forums telling people how much i know about the WNBA. Stating in a ever so cocky manner "I have seen the WNBA finals and watched a couple regular seasons games, i know WNBA basketball and have an opinion on this site."

@Darkoo

Your right, when losing an agruement i too would completely attack my grammer and because that clearly determines how well my agruement is. (There you go i completely mess up that statement so you can run wild with it)

@Yup

Care to explain where i ever said i worked for Kentucky?

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Lol he's at Algoma my College

Lol he's at Algoma my College played him, he's a heck of a player too.

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Yeah that's the college. He

Yeah that's the college. He lead the Juco out here to the national title before he transferred. Was being recruited by most of the big east and Sec and some ACC teams

You dont have to be dumb to reclassify. My step sister was a 3.8 student but reclassified. Many do it because they started school earlier then there age group. If I'm not mistaken Wall had pretty good grades in H.S and College

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@the lake show2 So because

@the lake show2

So because your sister did it, this is case for most people? 5 years at the highschool level means you failed to get good enough grades to enter the NCAA(we're talking basketball here, not your sister feeling socially awkward because she is not with her age group)

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@ Tim49461 1. That just

@ Tim49461

1. That just strengthens my point of how big of an idiot you are. 2011-2012 will be HUGE for college basketball, there's so many returnees along with a strong group coming onto the college scene this upcoming season will be the most exciting group to watch in awhile.

2. This so called pay check is bullsh*t, stop cranking it to internet &$#%#&@! and go to bed already. You have to be up early to earn that $300,000 buddy.

3. Your the one breaking down a highlight video, a HIGHLIGHT VIDEO, even Eddy Curry looks good in one. So me seeing the kid play first hand is better than you watching a YouTube video of him? Good thought process on that, stop sniffin' that Charlie Sheen.

4. Your f*cked and managed to chirp everyone on this thread. So save your self the embarrassment and throw your opinion on a WNBA forum since you talk about it so much.

5. No I did not fail Highschool nor did I need the 5th year, I chose to do it to save money for school, I'm currently the proud owner of a 3.65 GPA so suck it.

@ The lake show3

He put up solid numbers in our league and turned his losing team into a challenger for the OCAA Championship. Haha guys a player for sure.

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Plus @Yupyup caught you in a

Plus @Yupyup caught you in a lie. Red handed saying how you work for Kentucky!

We got a pathological liar in here.

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@yup It was under my name but

@yup

It was under my name but wasnt me. But i really dont care there is no way to prove it wasnt me. So im not going to bother.

@ Prince

Once again you're the Idoit. Good god child the comment was made before everyone was saying they were coming back. Are you seriously that retarded to you will stand by you false logic of not looking up where and when i said that. This is like arguing with a child. It was in the context that that two to three teams were going to dominate the rest of the field. I seriously can not stress how retarded you sound to someone who read my thread.

Once again does it matter, i know i make more then you. So if you believe it or not is not doesnt matter to me really.

So in all the fighting you been putting up on how it really matters you saw him play makes you an expert enough to talk. You backed down to a childish stand off with i saw him first hand so my opinion is better then yours? See i find intelligence through logic, not grammar buddy. With logic you can destroy someone like im currently doing to you. With grammar you just look like someone who cares way to much on a subject 2% of the world cares about.

Yes attack me saying i lost. Taking my logic example and thinking i really do watch the WNBA. Thank you for failing at life and understanding of an example. You used a pointless context of a statement to turn it into insult. Not an insult to my intelligence/knowledge of basketball or anything. Just a shameless attack hoping people would rally at the fact WNBA is someone to laugh at. Ha....make you feel better someone laughed?

You took a 5th year of prep school to save money? You realize Prep school is Highschool right? the material is the just refreshed over 1 or 2 years instead of 4? Or why are you so pompous towards the fact you went? But remember your logic sir. I had a 5.1Gpa in highschool. I could say any number here and it doesnt matter. So for all i know you have a 1.5 like you did in highschool and took the prep school route.

Anytime you want to stop being embarrassed for you lack of understanding of logic, you can just say "I give up" But the only reason you're getting people on your side is because im coming across as a a-hole, not because you're right. And for people to defend you would mean they are doing it just because they have alreadys sided.

Its alright buddy one day you find a way to turn an argument, but today isnt that day.

Should i just say "figure out the grammar errors yourself" so i dont have to worry about a grammar attack because you have nothing to say?

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HAHA did I attack your

HAHA did I attack your grammar once? No that was other people, but for a "manager" of Kentucky you should be able to spell simple words. You used the word logic enough, I'm proud you can spell that. Someone else went on your account and said they were a manager of Kentucky? Yea, believable considering they spell the same way as you loser.

You're so mature right? Yet you keep coming back with pointless arguments, buddy your "logic" is f*cked and so is your fake a$$.

The argument was leaning to me the whole time, and people on here are smart so they realize that. This argument was over as soon as I read your first post. Your a low life loser trying to feel the glory of making people on here think you are the manager of an NCAA team. Pathetic.

Go to bed, wake up and clean a middle schools urinal like your job entails.

Your 15 minutes of fame is over on Nbadraft, good night and don't cry too loud, your parents may hear you.

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Lol haha i mean you say

Lol haha i mean you say whatever you want about the Kentucky statement like i said you're not going to make me feel bad or even consider it. Haha i know what happened and if no one believes its cool man i dont lose sleep. But please come back with another one about it. Its like trying to tell Barrack Obama he's not black after awhile you just kind of laugh and say believe what you want. Nice try man lol haha.

I do know how to spell Logic. i was hoping that my constant usage of the word would make you look it up and understand it. I guess i failed. :(

I mean go ahead think you won but you have yet to prove anything lol. Let me just point out something, i'll even do it numbered so it goes by faster.

1. 8 years of watching basketball = Makes you a expert. (Wonder what status would be given to someone who has watched it 50 years) You precocious underage punk.

2. Watching a finals game and being at the event = Knowledge over all of Canada basketball.

3. Failing to understand an example of Logical Reasoning about the WNBA and how it coincides with the agrument = Well You.

You proved nothing as you can see. Thus i Win. I know it hurts your ego but sometimes you have to take the L kid before you continue to look more retarded then you are.

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unbiased observer

unbiased observer here...tim49461 your a doucheeeeeeee......

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Haha ill take it man its

Haha ill take it man its cool. But to say im wrong you can't not even facts will help you prove im wrong. You can prove im a douche but Wrong, Nah!

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He didn't say anything

He didn't say anything inflammatory to begin with, you just jumped all over him for no reason, he was just giving a personal opinion. And a guy who is involved with Ontario high school basketball and plays college ball there, is actually way more qualified than about anyone else on this site to give some feedback

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It was a playful comment that

It was a playful comment that lasted 2 sentences.

He was the one that tried to back it up and make himself look stupid. Its not my fault.

As much of a douche it sounds like, Im happy no one can prove me wrong. It just shows everyone hated me for the way i went at him.

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"Im happy no one can prove me

"Im happy no one can prove me wrong. It just shows everyone hated me for the way i went at him."

Honestly, looked at this thread for a while now...I don't even know what it is that I can't prove you wrong in. All I hear is one dude give his opinion on a prospect, only saying that he happens to have played HS ball in Canada and knows what it is like from a competition standpoint to strengthen his argument. Then I see a pompous &$#%#&@! come on and attempt to rip him for somehow claiming he was an expert. He never said he was the next Hubie Brown. Then you have the nerve to have to make this thread no longer about a topic, but about how you are some rich individual with an extended knowledge in comparison to the "kids" on this site. Just b/c you may be older than they are and possibly watched ball over more years doesn't make you an expert...eat your own crow. Your money is irrelevant in this topic. I know dumbasses who make a hell lot more than you do so that is a moot point.

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My thoughts on Andrew Wiggins..

I don't mean to sound like a "know it all" but I am probably one of the only people on here who have actually seen Andrew play in person. I have followed/watched Toronto high school for about 10 years now, and got a chance to watch Andrew play live this year for Vaughan Secondary about a dozen time. Just wanted to get that out of the way.

In my opinion Andrew Wiggins as a 10th grader this year, was the most dominant high school basketball player I have ever seen play in the the province of Ontario. Was he the most skilled? (No Kevin Pangos was) . Did he have the highest basketball I/Q or court version or feel for the game? (No Kevin Pangos did). With that being said, due to Andrews size, physique, and athleticism he was by far the most dominant player in the GTA this year (as a 10th grader) and was the most dominant player I have seen come out of Toronto. Andrew's athleticism allows him to play well above the rim, and makes him almost impossible to stop in transition or when attacking the basket. When he wanted to, he could score at will, and was practically unguardable. With that being said, Andrew still lacks a great feel for the game, and was often found just standing around on the court, and did not play so well off of the ball. He also came across as lacking that "killer instinct" that a lot of lesser talented players in the GTA possessed this year (i.e- He hardly ever demanded the ball, even down the stretch in the very few tight games Vaughan found themselves in this year) . I am stumped as to whether this was the REAL Andrew, or whether he was just so bored with the sub-par competition in Toronto basketball, that he just didn't have to try his hardest, knowing his team would still win with ease. Basically, in many games Andrew didn't look like he was trying his hardest, and I couldn't tell if he was just bored &$#%#&@!less out there on the court because of the lack of competition, or was it because he just has a relaxed (almost lazy) attitude on the court. Overall, I think Andrew is a lock high D1 prospect. However, if he wants to make the NBA I think he needs to greatly improve his ability to be a team player, and he needs to develop more of a killer instinct out on the court. As well, he needs to improve his overall basketball I.Q and feel for thew game, as he often disappeared for long stretches of time during close games this year, and left the burden on Vaughan's other elite players (Henry Tan, Troy Reid Knight, Roshane Roberts) to win games.

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Andrew Wiggins wont fall off.

Andrew Wiggins wont fall off. Few players have ever had the type of support he is given, the motivation, and the work ethic expected of him. His support system can be compared to many of the greatest players the game has seen. His father is a former NBA Player, he has two very skilled brothers who let him know constantly he is not yet better then them, his mother is a former olympic sprinter, he has basically all of Canadian Basketball encouraging him to continue development, people at grassroots, U17 national, U-19 natonal, and even mens national programs. He constantly has AAU basketball Coaches calling, every top D-1 school, and none of these programs or family members will let him slip up. I read an article stating his actaul height is now 6'8 and his wingspan is 7'0. I expect him to contiue developing his dribble, which is probally decent at this point, and continue developing his jumper. His father encourages his boys learn gaurd skills, and compares Andrew to Lebron James, and Micheal Jordan. Obviously that is not the cieling we should expect, although it is good that his biggest critic, and supporter sets those type of standards.

He reminds me alot of Micheal Gilchrist, and quite frankly I would not be shocked to see him play for Calipari one day.

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OhCanada..

Well said.

I sat with Andrews dad at a bunch of games this season, and he definitely has a great support cast like you said. I would be cheesed though if he played for a crooked coach like Calipari. I would much rather see him play for a coach like Roy Williams at UNC, Coach K at Duke, or Jimmy Boheim at Cuse. I don't think Calipari is interested in developing players the ways the prior mentioned coaches do, and is more of an ego type coach who thinks he will win a title by using crooked recruiting to build a program baed on freshman's who are one and dones.

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Actually OhCanada..

To be honest, I think Calipari will be gone from Kentucky by the time Andrew reaches college. The guy will just continue to rack up NCAA violation after NCAA violation, like he has done at the previous programs he has coached.

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She played basketball

She played basketball actually. And no im not talkign about everyone but its foolish to think that everyone that does it is retarded. Thats statement is pretty much retarded and its just you're opinion not a fact

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From Waching some highlights

From Waching some highlights he does remiond me of Gilchrist but once again thats just highlights. After reading Ucla post thought im less inclined to comparehim to Gilchrist because you never hear about Gilchrist lack of motor or standing around. Basically he is a question mark right now because the competition he played against is much lower than what he will get in the states and you can probably get many highschool players out here who could dominate in his league. With that said he is athletic long and has a support system that seems to be good for him (although he should have been playing ball in the States instead of waiting this long to come over, a player that talented is't gonna get better playing against inferior competition(sills and physically). I wouldnt look to much into who his father compares him to because most parents do that (anyone recall Javell McGee's mom)

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@Tim

The problem was, the way your initial comments came off, you sound like an arrogant jerk. You may not be one, but the whole "If you wanted to break it down like a professional...." thing, not to mention the "I predict he fizzles down the top 10 like OJ Mayo and Mike Gilchrist", for a 15 year old player, made it sound like you look like more of a jerk than a joker. True, if you maybe made a joke about his possible inexperience covering the sport, I would have thought it was funny (I do time to time when people here say "In all of my years...." and they are like, 16. I try not to say it and I am 26), but it did not come off as such. Might want to say you are joking next time, not point to your supposed cash flow and just talk like a human being. I think you probably have some good things to say, and may think my advice is lame, but I just hope that everyone kind of gets over this current spat.

As far as Andrew Wiggins is concerned, I think he is definitely an exciting basketball prospect. I have made posts concerning him before, including a great article I believe the Globe and Mail did on him. I did not get a chance to see him play live, but I have watched his games and definitely think he is incredibly advanced for his age. His jumper still is definitely spotty and need works, but most kids at that age just need more repititions. He was the OFSAA MVP and lead Vaughan to the championship, though they did have a strong team. I know that his dad is a very good role model and that Andrew seems to genuinely love basketball, and that is a good start. I look forward too seeing what he does over the summer and the next few years most likely at prep school in NC or where ever he decides to go. Amazing athlete right now though, and the fact he has stood out against older competition is always an encouraging sign. It is just about working as hard as the players that are presumably going to try and shoot up those 2014 rankings.

UCLA86, I kind of disagree about Calipari. I have always found something fishy about the violations at his schools, and the Anthony Davis rumor of being offered 6 digit money that was shot down in the summer was slightly shady. Still, I have a feeling that Calipari will keep getting top recruits, whether they are one and done or otherwise. If the top recruits are indeed one and done players, they will more than likely go to schools where they are not only prepared for the NBA game, but also have a legitimate chance at an NCAA championship. Calipari has yet to win one, but man does he keep coming close time after time, it is fairly impressive. But, HE has yet to be connected with a violation, even though players involved with his programs have. I am not completely naiive, he more than likely knows something behind the scenes, but he has yet to really been under NCAA scrutiny as a coach, though UMass and Memphis both had violations with major players that wiped out a Final Four and Championship appearance. He may leave Kentucky for the NBA, but I doubt he will be fired unless something actually sticks to him as a coach or the program is hit with sanctions. Still, he had quite a long time at Memphis without that happening.

Also, on an off topic reference, I hope you read what I posted about your comments on my "Hall of Fame by Draft Class" post. I do not at all want a beef, I am hoping to end one, but I really hope that you did not think what you posted was acceptable for someone replying to a persons thread on here and sounding like an educated source on basketball. It is obvious you are a big fan, and you do go to games, analyze players, but you clearly did not understand my post and absolutely overreacted. I was hoping for some kind of response, even if it was "Your post was long and hard to understand". Thank you, and I hope this does not step on anyones toes.

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The thing with Coach Cal is

The thing with Coach Cal is the violations that have happened are violations that most Coach's have nothing to do with. Camby getting money frm a agent, Rose not taking his S.A.T. The NCAA did a very indepth investigation and found nothing. He may knew and then again he may not have but just like Coach and other Coach's they all have gone into the Grey area. When you get the top players chances are higher that they player has accepted money or broke some type of NCAA rule

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@MDYMES Nah man, see the

@MDYMES

Nah man, see the point i was getting across was dont come to a website full of 16 year old kids proclaiming they know everything basketball. Be smart and kick back and learn and not proclaim yourself knowledge over everything for the short amount of time you actually watch basketball. How do you think any D1 coach would feel if they got into a argument over basketball because that person says im played/watched it for 8 years. They would just laugh in their face. So me being smart enough to not go around shouting to the rooftops trying to challenge people, i kick back and learn until i realize i DO KNOW enough knowledge to accurately voice my opinion in that manner.

Someone who is willing to brag about 3 games and playing in Canada comes across as more ignorant then my comment. The same can be said if someone played in NYC and watched the Mcdonald's game, Then trying to tell everyone i know everything about AAU and highschool basketball. Do you see how stupid he comes across now? Just because it is the only opinion doesnt make it the right opinion.

@Mikey

I feel you man, like i said it was a playful comment and he tried to defend himself. Once that happens im not backing down until he loses.

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@Tim49461 Your still running

@Tim49461

Your still running your mouth? Your a joke buddy and everyone on this website can see that from your posts and lies, I'm 21 not 16 nor did I only watch one Canadian High school game. I've watched HUNDREDS of Canadian High school basketball games and have competed in a large amount as well.

How many Canadian High school games have you watched? Have you seen Wiggins play in person before or even at all beside highlight videos? Exactly shut your mouth. This is why I can post my opinion on this topic! I may be 21 years old but I do have more knowledge on Canadian Basketball and its players than your dumba$$.

I was being completely respectful until you put your rude comment. It wasn't necessary and I put you in your place (not to mention found out how big of a liar you are by you saying your a manager of Kentucky).

8 years of basketball knowledge isn't "guru" material but it is enough to post on Canadian Basketball which is my strong point. I learn so much from the people on this website and respect their comments but you were straight up being rude.(As everyone on this thread saw). Which someone at your age shouldn't be, so obviously you aren't mature for your age.

Judging by your delusion there's obviously something wrong with you mentally, your a pathological liar, immature and just stupid for not reading my posts before arguing. You were rude, you lose get over it.

So have "managing Kentucky" in dreamland buddy.

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tim your messed man shut your

tim your messed man shut your mouth already.

Homie was just putting a comment and you dissrespected him , sit down youve been served!!!

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Tim

There is no way you can win anymore. In everyones mind other than perhaps your own, you are lose every time you make a post about this first comment. Just say that it was not your intention and that it was taken out of context. I have your read your other posts on this, you are not helping yourself.You are not defending yourself, you are just making yourself look worse. Stick to basketball, if you really had the qualifications you do, there is no need to be this petty.

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Nah see man Prince you never

Nah see man Prince you never once asked me what my background is or what i do nor have i stated what my knowledge is. So you saying you know more about it then me? Kind of a dumb move on your part.

See i have no intentions of backing down because at the end of the day i dont care what people think about me. Should i care what highschool kids think about me? Does the knowledge i post on any other forum get discarded because of what i have said early? Nope because at the end of the day if the statement made it good people wont care.

I dont read the forums for an analysis on a player, i have select few people on here i trust their opinion. Considering most of the other people are legitimately 16 year olds and havent scouted them or do it for a living. If anythign i read the title then check ESPN.

You know what that Kentucky comment really got to me this time. I mean it hurt. I dont know how to take it. Hahaha you really dont get it Prince. Im not going to be ashamed or embarrassed for something i didnt do. Unlike you im little bit stronger minded then you and can take it. But i would love to hear anothe Kentucky comment, it may break me this time. You can bring up the fact i got to work with John Wall. Yeahhh that will make me look stupid. Hahaha maybe when you're older Prince you will realize words dont really hurt anymore.

But its cool Prince i played AAU and Highschool ball in the States i know alot more then everyone on this site. Right? I mean my background proves it i played for a AAU team out west, played highschool ball all four year of varsity. Clearly that is more then everyone else right. But do i put my creditials up everytime i post? Nah! because then i look like a douche to everyone.

Prince you are never going to win this battle. You fired back with a snarky comment too so dont try to hide now. Be a man and state just like did your intentions with your first comment was to look down on me. Man up everyone is on your side you aint got nothing to be afraid of.

What do you say Prince, end this? Just say you intentionally said your first comment to come across as knowing all and a douche to make yourself look cool. and I'll say i was wrong for attacking you? Deal?

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His first comment was in no way as offensive or arrogant as you make it out to be. Sorry to get involved, but I have followed this argument and you should just stop it. You came off as WAY more arrogant than anything Prince has said thus far. If you do not think he knows what he is talking about, don't listen to him. But, it is a two way street. He has no idea what you know or your credentials either.

Do you know how old he is? Do you know what he has seen, or his knowledge of the game? Nope, can only assume through what he has posted. See what I am getting at? Read your posts, and read his posts. You are both looking rather petty, but I think Prince has really nothing to apologize about. You say he took your words out of context, and you are taking his out of context as well. Even if he had been watching basketball for 5 years, what he said was what he felt was true, why in the hell was it so offensive to you?

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I've already won your the

I've already won your the desperate one trying to hide your tail.

My comment in no way made it seem like "I know all" or was cocky in the slightest bit. It was your bitter attitude to younger people on here that made you read it that way. I was simply putting my opinion of which I do have some knowledge on, for people to see on here, not bragging just putting my opinion of a Canadian High school player. I'm not trying to make it seem like me years of playing and watching is over everyone on this site. Not at all, you said a rude comment so I showed you I do have experience so I should at least be able to say my opinion. "Post my credentials"? , honestly your the one that put your pay check up here. Crazy a$$.

I've already manned up and won this argument, maybe you'll win next time when you don't come out of the gate looking rude and uneducated. You've embarrassed yourself numerous times with your spelling, lies and contradictions so I'll be the man and END IT.

You lost the battle and the war. Get over it, maybe we can argue about BASKETBALL related things next time.

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So anyways...that Wiggins kid

So anyways...that Wiggins kid is pretty good...

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No kidding holy sh*t!! Lol

No kidding holy sh*t!! Lol

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Tim, you're a bum in the

Tim, you're a bum in the basketball world and have no business arguing with Prince because he did nothing wrong, he posted his opinion and you jumped on him. Then you talk about money? What does money have to do with basketball??? I am from Toronto and have seen Wiggins play, he clearly is the best player on the court. I'm not saying im a b-ball guru, but people who have seen him play have more of an opinion than you, who just watched the highlights on hoopmixtape...... Not to mention Wiggins is 6'8 a solid SF and you are comparing him to O.J. Mayo, and 6'3/6'4 combo guard. Get outta here.

Anyway, I'm very happy with the fact that Wiggins is from Canada because I have a feeling Canadian basketball players will have a much larger impact in the NBA than in years past. Finally Canada (and Toronto) is on the map.

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