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Is Andrew Bynum headed for early retirement?

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Is Andrew Bynum headed for early retirement?

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/9003370/andrew-bynum-philadelphia-76er...

"It's getting late. I don't know [about playing this season]," Bynum said. "I don't want to play in pain. ... I'm 25, it's my life." - Andrew Bynum

According to this report, he experienced swelling, pain and discomfort in his right knee after practicing in a five on zero drill. He's been resting the entire season. IF he can't practice, how can he play?

He's entering unrestricted free-agency this summer. He's the 2nd best center in the NBA when healthy, however he may never ever be healthy again. His knees are breaking down. With a condition like his, knees don't get better with wear and tear... They get worse. Should the 76ers re-sign him? Should any team throw big money and a long term deal at him?


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Andrew Bynum could have been

Andrew Bynum could have been super elite player but i dont think he wanted that.

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6ers could still give him big

6ers could still give him big money pending how he checks out, but not a LT deal. If another team offers him the same for more years then he likely won't be a 6er.

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sad

Nothing worse than watching a talented player have his career cut short by injuries. Bynum has worked very hard since coming into the NBA as a very raw 17 year old. He has great touch, post moves, and timing, but his body just wasn't meant to endure a grueling 82 game schedule. I think if he every does come back we will only see flashes of what he used to be. Knees don't get better, he is losing the cartilage in his knees, very difficult to recover from that.

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I understand he has bad

I understand he has bad knees, but this guy should not be doing thing like going bowling. If you want to live your life like you say than give back the 76ers the 16 million you've taken from them this season. If you want the money you should have done everything in your power to not get hurt and stay on the floor.

It's why the Lakers wanted to trade him so badly before giving him a new deal. Wasn't the knees as much as does Bynum love basketball? Or does he love what basketball brings him in life ( Money, Women, Fame )

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Honestly if Bynum was too

Honestly if Bynum was too injured to go bowling then he's too injured to even be walking.

I do agree that Bynum doesn't seem to be as committed to basketball as a pro player should be. I will never forget a few years ago when he put off his knee surgery to go to the world cup. That event caused him to miss a chunk of the season...all so he could go to the world cup.

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Give the money back if he

Give the money back if he wants to live the way he wants? I hoe you understand that basketball is, ultimately, his job. He's entitled to do whatever he wants in his free time provided it doesn't violate his contract. Seeing as his contract doesn't stop him from going bowling, I think he can keep his salary.

He can't be rehabbing 24/7 because that would just further damage his knees. I really don't get why everyone is giving Bynum so much criticism for going bowling...it's not like he skipped rehab to go bowling or ANYONE expected him to hurt his knees BOWLING.

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double post

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I hate to say it, but I think

I hate to say it, but I think Bynum is headed for micro-fracture surgery. That means another year on the shelf.

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It certainly seems to be the

It certainly seems to be the case. I don't know what decision the 76ers are going to make regarding him. I wouldn't sign him to a big deal considering he didn't play a game this season. If he has a micro-fracture surgery does anyone even sign him in the off season or do they all wait to see how he recovers.

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Any team that gives him a big

Any team that gives him a big deal is going for the dare to be great move. Maybe a team will offer him a 4yr 32million deal, but I don't know if a team would even offer that to him now. He could have signed an extension with the 76ers at any point and should obviously regret that decision.

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@laarethekingsWhether is

@laarethekings

Whether it's bending to throw a bowling ball or bending to take a sh*t lol... Bynum's knees are still shot and his cartilage is flaking.

He's got bad knees. Greg Oden hurt his cartilage getting up off of a couch. When your knees are bad and are in the "weakened" cartilage state, there's not much you can do really. You can't just be immobile.

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German Procedure

I don't know if it was ever confirmed, but the word was that he went over to Germany and had the "procedure" last summer that has worked for at least one players (Kobe). Not a good sign that he is still having issues. I think Indian Basketball is right.

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The Lakers knew how bad his

The Lakers knew how bad his knees were.....they always seem to get the better end of the deal

Just trying to remember the deal again :

Philadelphia 76ers traded Andre Iguodala to the Denver Nuggets; and the Philadelphia 76ers traded Maurice Harkless, Nikola Vucevic and a future 1st round draft pick to the Orlando Magic.

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Terrible move...they gave up

Terrible move...they gave up two very good young players and a 1st round pick. They also gave up an elite perimeter defender who is also lethal on the fastbreak. I think they had to move Iggy but they should have dealt him for the Warriors pick and got another young player. It wasn't like the Bynum move would have put them over the top anyway. To take that big of a risk on an injury prone player on the last year of his contract was crazy...this is the worst case scenario that he won't play a single game in Philly but even best case scenario they weren't going to be a title contender for at least a couple years down the road. I would feel much better about a team going 22-34 if they still had Harkless, Vucevic and say I don't know Andre Drummond.

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The 6ers knew they were

The 6ers knew they were getting damaged goods. Either they didn't do their due diligence or they made the deal knowing the risk.
They assumed the risk and it didn't pay off.

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The Sixers could have Andre

The Sixers could have Andre Drummond, Vucevic, and Harkless. They could of had Drummond by trading Iggy to the Warriors or Raptors for there pick.

I've saw footage of him practicing, and he could be thrown out on the court tomorrow and get 20 and 10. His problem is he's soft and a coward. He don't want to play in pain. You're a professional athlete its why you get paid the big bucks, he's needs to just go out there and suck it up.

I think I've saw and heard enough to declare Bynum, a heartless coward. He could be playing right now. But he's afraid of pain. Allen Iverson carried the Sixers to the finals with atleast 12 simultaneous injuries but he lived and died for basketball and left it all on the floor. Bynum is afraid to even get on the floor.

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Funny I posted almost the

Funny I posted almost the same thing as you did at the exact same time. I didn't call out Bynum but I should have and will do so now. Andrew Bynum is a BUM. Whoever signs him this summer deserves everything they get.

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He is and what makes the

He is and what makes the situation so much worse is that Vucevic is the real deal, as was Harkless. I was so happy when we drafted both of them thinking the Sixers got steals. I had Harkless rated higher then Barnes and had Vucevic right below Kanter in the same tier as Tristan Thompson and JV.

Bynum didn't even need surgery he was perfectly healthy when we traded for him and he got that German procedure just as a precaution. Next thing you know he's using it as an excuse as to why he can't play. He's a BUM no way around it.

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De-generative knees aren't

De-generative knees aren't just something you can play through.
It's not just a matter of playing through pain and swelling. It's managing the pain while playing on them without speeding up their de-generative state.

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De-Generative knees aren't

De-Generative knees aren't just something that pop up out of nowhere to my knowledge. When the Sixers traded for him he was perfectly healthy. He played almost off of the games last year and was healthy throughout. He got that procedure in Germany just as a precaution and had no diagnosed knee ailments before he got that procedure. The Sixers kept him out of training camp only to ensure that the procedure had enough time to heal. Next thing you know he has de-generative knees....It all sounds like a load a crapt. Bynum is just afraid to play through the pain. He was doing great in rehab and even Holiday went on record to say Bynum looked like a beast while practicing. Bynum seems to be just looking for any excuse not to play.

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Do you honestly believe that

Do you honestly believe that Bynum just doesn't want to play?

We're talking about a guy who was happy to be in Philadelphia and looking forward to being the go-to player. Plus, he's heading into free-agency this summer. Not playing isn't helping his pay day. It's hurting it.

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Yes, from everything I've

Yes, from everything I've read, heard, and just by the way he handles himself, I do believe this is mostly about him just being AFRAID to play.

I believe and the biggest problem here is that Andrew Bynum is mentally weak and his immaturity would indicate.

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That makes no sense. This is

That makes no sense. This is likely the last time he'll ever get a chance to get a huge LT contract and yet he chooses not to play? Sitting does not help Bynum in any way. You're basically saying that you think that Bynum is purposefully sabotaging his future earnings because he's scared to play through pain. I highly doubt that's the case. Every setback he has means less and less money for Bynum.

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Bynum is at the end of a 58

Bynum is at the end of a 58 million dollar contract so it isn't exactly like the guy is hurting for money. If he wanted to play I am sure he could but he doesn't want to. He might lose a few million but in reality he knows some team will take a chance on him because he is one of the top centers in the league. Who suffers a setback from playing basketball but injuring them self bowling? This guy was supposed to be ready months and months ago and somehow seems to keep getting worse. If a regular guy like me said I couldn't work for a year because of pain in my knees I would get fired immediately. I just hope it isn't the Sixers who are dumb enough to pay this guy anymore than they already have.

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How much he's made doesn't

How much he's made doesn't address him ruining his earning potential. This is his last chance at a big LT contract. If he would've played at all and showed no ill effects, he would've been penciled in for a LT max deal. That is not the case anymore. He didn't just suffer a setback bowling. He's suffered multiple setbacks. The initial setback occurred last yr while practicing, as was the latest one, but suffering a setback from something as innocuous as bowling is not a good sign.
Doesn't matter what would happen to a "regular guy." Playing pro basketball with an NBA contract is not a regular job.
Whether the 6ers pay him or not depends on his LT...and near term health prospects.

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He could also ruin his

He could also ruin his earning potential by playing and looking terrible. If he comes out and stinks it up like he is afraid he will, he could ruin any chance of cashing in on a big deal. I think he is taking his chances by not playing and that he is still thought to be a commodity instead of playing crappy and removing any doubts about his remaining game. I don't really know what to think of the guy because he seemed excited to be a Sixer but his actions haven't really shown that. Derrick Rose will have returned from a torn ACL before Bynum plays again.

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Eliminating some doubt about

Eliminating some doubt about the health of his knees > coming off of a long layoff and looking bad.
If he had no intent on playing for the 6ers he could've just gotten season ending knee surgery by now but he didn't.

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Would really hate to see it

I would really hate to see such a talented player go so young but once your knees get that bad, with his size there is nothing much that can be done to help the situation...

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Would really hate to see it

I would really hate to see such a talented player go so young but once your knees get that bad, with his size there is nothing much that can be done to help the situation...

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he feels entitled

Bynum is a chump. I feel like his arrogance will inevitbly turn alot of executives off. Magic Johnson may not be the best analyst but I AGREE with him when he says that Andrew Bynum doesn't appear to love the game. Bynum just wants a check he's not earning a damn thing right now. However, I don't believe he'll retire I believe that he will get second and third chances I don't think he deserves them though.

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Anyone else thinking he

Anyone else thinking he should go to Phoenix? Sounds like their pre-emptive approach to injuries would be of real benefit to Bynum, they might be able to help him get healthy and stay healthy.

I'm not sure what their cap situation is like, but if they are confident in their ability to get him up and running they could do a sign-and-trade with Gortat going to the Sixers for Bynum and a pick or two.

I feel bad for the Sixers, I was really excited at the prospect of Bynum as the undisputed first option ready to take his place as best C in the NBA from Dwight after coming very close last season, but it wasn't to be, and it's a damn shame.

I think the problem with Bynum is that he isn't pro-active enough with his health, he treats the pain as it comes rather than training his body properly to prevent pain; even when he was healthy he never seemed to be in great shape or have any noticeable muscle tone.

This is again where Phoenix comes into it, I hope. I just hate to see these immensely talented big guys struck down by injury (Bynum, Oden, Bogut, Howard - to an extent).

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All I know is that by saying

All I know is that by saying stuff like this he isn't helping his chances of cashing in big this off-season, by the things he's saying I really to think he might call it quits. Really sad, I hope he can get healthy and be the dominant big he can be, but at the very least be healthy for the rest of his life. I wish him the best and hope he can find peace with himself regardless of the decision he makes about his future.

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As always Indyball brings up

As always Indyball brings up some very worthwhile points, Bynum needs to get back on court to try and earn a new deal but I wonder whether he is almost worried if he comes back and shows he cannot perform to a high level it could affect his market value even more. Or perhaps he looks to just play a handful of games to try and showcase himself and earn a new contract.

But with so many injury issues, any team taking him on would surely want him to pass a thorough medical before signing and also for insurance purposes.

The 76ers do look likely losers in the Bynum/Iggy/D12 trade whilst Denver typically quietly added Iggy and without a star player, Coach Karl has lead them to an almost unnoticed very high seeding birth.

The Lakers knew that they could win without a major contribution from Bynum and it almost seemed that he was there to be traded in due course to help facilitate another big trade He never looked s if he was thought of as the guy they would rebuild around post Kobe era

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About Bynum coming back on

About Bynum coming back on court to try and earn a new deal.

I remember when Elton Brand was with the Clippers and came back from a serious Achilles injury. He opted out of his final year of contract and came back to play in the final 8 games to improve his stock, before testing the free agent market.

Guess which team gave him a 5 year - $80mill contact ? I just hope they don't sign Bynum to a big contract.

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