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Andrew Bynum

So it seems to be that the majority of NBA fanatics seem to believe that Andrew Bynum will be the "anchor" of the Lakers franchise in the future. I really have never seen it. I mean he's a legit C in the league and i wouldnt mind having him as say my 2nd or 3rd option but really... it seems we've been talking about his "potential" for an eternity now. i realize he's only 23 and theres plenty of time for him but he's been in the league for 5 or 6 seasons now and i just dont see it. dont get me wrong, he has the tools, moves, footwork etc to be successful but im not seeing him be the number one option for any team that plans on having legitimate success. I think he could be a 16-18 ppg and 8-10 reb guy as a number one option but people make him sound like hes going to be a HOFer which i think is absurd. i also feel like he really benefits from playing alongside pau gasol in the sense that the other teams best defensive big is going to guard pau and bynum gets the other guy who isnt as good, not to mention the versatility of gasol to be a 7 foot PF means that the other teams center will guard gasol leaving the PF to guard bynum which creates an obvious size mismatch. he's also been injured for long periods of time the past few seasons and of course its been the knees which never spells anything beneficial for big men. i hate to sound biased but i feel he's been glorified because he plays for the prized lakers but all in all i just dont see what everyone else is seeing (or wants to see)


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I somewhat agree with what

I somewhat agree with what your'e saying but on the other hand, you'd have to believe he'd average 20-10 without Gasol there.

I'm not buying the fact someone is gonna believe he's a centerpiece to a trade anymore though, the man just can't stay healthy.

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I dont think he would average

I dont think he would average those numbers. i just dont think he's that great. i could see him having those kinds of games every so often but averaging those numbers seems far fetched to me.

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He's there future if he can

He's there future if he can stay healthy. The one good thing is that his injuries have been a lil different the Oden's and Yao's ( kobe falling into him is one case). He's still a injury risk but hoepfully he can over come it like Camby

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@ the lake show so youre

@ the lake show

so youre saying that whenever kobe retires in say the next 4-5 years (who knows when he'll retire) that youre confident that the lakers will still be cream of the crop with bynum as your best player?

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Bynum has surprise alot of

Bynum has surprise alot of people ..Nobody expected him to become the player he has became..But injuries have slowed him down...If he and Oden can ever stay healthy,they could be among the top 5 centers in the league..

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Yep as long as they add other

Yep as long as they add other players(which they will) if bynum is healthy. Bynum isn't in his prime yet and he has already shown he is capable of being a 20plus scorer as well as a 10 plus rebounder. No one knows what he will be in 4 or 5 years so its kinda hard to say.

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@ rudeboy everyone has

@ rudeboy

everyone has expected bynum to become what he has and way more! his expectations have always been uncharacteristically high

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wheres llperez when you need

wheres llperez when you need him lol

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I don't remember anyone

I don't remember anyone having very high expectations of Bynum other than him becoming a good cente. Where did you see this so i can take a look because i honestly don't recall

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from the day he was drafted

from the day he was drafted he was supposed to be the next best center in the league. youre saying he could average 20 and 10 so you obviously have high expectations of him as did the rest of the world when he was drafted

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Thiose expectations came

Thiose expectations came after he got minutes and had a very good season. Those expectations were not there when he got drafted or else he would have went higer than he did. If he was projected as the next great center he would have went top 3. Please show me where anyone said he was suppossed to be the next great center

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If Bynum was a number one

If Bynum was a number one option, he would probably get 20-10-2, but a player can't be a number one option on almost any team if he is injured for significant amounts of time each season. I am a Laker fan, and I'm pretty realistic about Bynum. Reality is he will never truly be 100% ever in his career, and I don't see him as the next big thing in LA, but he WILL be an very important piece now and the future whether he stays or goes. Bynum allows all the bigs for the Lakers play their original positions which is really important in my opinion, and it gives us more depth with Odom coming off the bench, obviously. The Bynum today makes a big difference for the Lakers when is in game-playing shape and healthy, which seems like an overstatement every time we use it as an "excuse", but it's true...

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he was drafted 10th overall

he was drafted 10th overall and he was coming right out of high school which is why no one took him in the top 3 but as soon as the lakers drafted him was when everyone said he could become not just one of the best centers in the league, but the very best one... im going off of memory and what everyone says all the time about bynum "potential" is all you hear with him and all anyone has ever said about him for what seems like forever.

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Just show me where anyone

Just show me where anyone wrote he was gonna be the next great center because i don't remember anyone saying that

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nobody said Bynum would be

nobody said Bynum would be the next great center...In fact a few years ago,Kobe said he thought Bynum should be traded for an old Jason Kidd....

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And Deshaun Stevenson was

And Deshaun Stevenson was supposed to be the next MJ... Why does it matter what "everyone" thinks when it's referring to prospects? Who is "everyone" anyway? We should all know that scouting reports are just educated guesses. If you're going to call out Bynum, you should call every other player in the NBA who hasn't lived up to their hype, and it's not like Bynum hasn't shown that "potential" to be able to dominate on a very high level. He is just injury prone. Like you said, he is only 23, and an NBA basketball player's prime years starts at 26. He might not live up to HoF potential that you said "everyone" said he had, but he'll do just fine for the future.

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I've never seen or read

I've never seen or read anywhere of someone saying Bynum would be the next great big man...They said it about Oden....

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his comparison for best case

his comparison for best case scenario on draftexpress.com was shaq... but if everyone is going to play dumb and act like they dont know what everyone was ranting and raving about bynum and also try to act like we dont hear about bynums "limitless" potential, then the hell with it

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Shaq was the exception most

Shaq was the exception most guys at that size and weight can't stay healthy.

He's the 3rd very big Center to have numerous injuries.

Yao, Oden and Bynum all have the same problem it seems. Some other very big Centers that got hurt Oliver Miller, Stanley Roberts, Sabonis seems like Big Z was a rare case the 1 big who recovered and has stayed injury free for the most part.

Bynum I can't see him being a dominant Center or a #1 scoring option but I can see him scoring 18-20ppg but who knows what the future holds.

Will the Lakers give him another huge contract if he continues to be injury prone.

5-6 years this won't be the same team, Kobe will be 37-38 he won't be the same player this is his 15th year already. Its likely he'll be out of the league at 38. Gasol will be 35-36 not exactly that young esp. since he's a European player and they start playing very early when their young. Maybe he's the 3rd option on the team, who knows what the Lakers or any teams roster will be. You can't say the Lakers will be cream of the crop since they'll be capped out the next 3 years and maybe 4 depending on the new CBA. The present and the next 2-3 years is great after that who knows.

They don't have good young players and its doubtful they trade away their starts to acquire them. The Lakers 1st rounder in 2011 though probably a late 20's pick is already traded away. Picks they have coming the 2011 Knicks and Heat 2nd rounders both late 40's to late 50's. Also the Grizz 2013 2nd rounder which is top 55 protected they have not exactly great trading chips. Just like the 49ers ran out of luck after having 2 HOF QB's in Montana and Young 1 after another sooner or later a team a team's luck runs out. Good luck finding another Kobe Bryant in the draft.

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Please put the link where it

Please put the link where it said best case Shaq before he got to play meaningful minutes. No ones playing dumb its just no one recalls seeing what you say "everyone" has said. We are not just gonna take you're word for it so all you have to do is show the proof where everyone said these things. It shouldn't be hard to find since you said everyone said it. I've been a laker fan for a very long time and i always follow them but i really dont remember Bynum ever being talked about as becoming one of the best centers in the NBA ( not untill he had his best year).

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Yea...I disagree

Yea...I disagree Rudeboy.

After Bynum's second season...Many people believed he was a potential star. Case shown by the point LA didn't wanna move him.

The Lakers could have gotten Jason Kidd or Kevin Garnett for him.

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Didn't many people want to

Didn't many people want to trade him inclduing Kobe?..only management wanted to keep him. I think even Phil wasn't opposed to Bynum getting traded. I do Know many many fans were agreeing that he needed to be traded

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I never doubted he could be

I never doubted he could be an all star...s

sacphil stated that bynum was said to be the next great big man....nobody ever said that...

from the beginning even kupchak said he was a project

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Next great big men are rarely

Next great big men are rarely if ever projects

Shaq

Duncan

David Robinson

Pat Ewing

The Dream

Wilt

Kareem

Russell

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Did i miss something?..After

Did i miss something?..After reading it the closest thing to anyone saying Bynum is the next great big man is when someone asked the scout about the camp and they said they didn't wanna miss the next great thing refering not to Bynum but anyone who were to show the ability to be the next great thing. And then when talking about his Allstar potential that was in 2008. Bynum was drafted in 2005. Tell me that wasn't the articles that you were refering to when you said "from the day he was drafted he was supposed to be the next best center in the league"

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I do see where Kevie dixson

I do see where Kevie dixson says he's gonna be the next big Shaq, but one man still doesn't qualify for "everyone" as you said. Thats like me saying Jordan Williams will be the next Duncan then someone saying "Everyone say's he's gonna be the next Duncan"

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Are we debating if he's going

Are we debating if he's going to be the next great big? I'm confused.

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Debating people thinking he

Debating people thinking he would be the next great big man before/when he was drafted

And by everyone im assuming he doesn't mean everyone but alot of people

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Bynum as a 3rd/4th option has

Bynum as a 3rd/4th option has already proven he will bring you 25,8, and near 2 blocks. The man has injury issues but unlike Oden standing up from his couch, Bynum's first 2 serious injuries were freak accidents that came because of another teammate falling into his knee's. I still have faith in Drew simply because he has shown me the ability to be dominant w.o even being relatively healthy. His size and intimidation factor changes the game defensively without even having to produce any significant numbers. The guy is a legit 20-10 big. Give him touches on a crappy team and you would see realistically 22, 10, 2. His rebounding numbers are a little low, but before we got Pau and when he was out at the begining of last year he proved he could perform.

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I remember a few people

I remember a few people saying Bynum good be the next Shaquille O'Neal during the draft. It was either Bilas or Vitale, or maybe I just read it, but he was looked at as a potential star player dating back to when he was drafted.

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