Andrei Kirlilenko new contract shadyness
Hey guys, I saw a post a few days before questioning the legitimacy of Andrei Kirilenko's new contract with the Nets. I don't know about you guys but, I thoroughly believe that Kirilenko is getting much more money than is being stated. Here are my two reasons as to why :
Andrei Kirilenko's wife, Masha Kirilenko (Masha Lopatova), is the daughter of former USSR basketball player, Andrey Lopatov. Lopatov is now a big part of some Russian bank (sorry I don't know which). This means that Prokharov can transfer the money he may have promised to Kirilenko and go undetected. Prokhorov isn't just a rich man owning an NBA team. He is strongly linked with the,in my opinion, corrupt Russian government, even running for election some time back. This means that there is a lot he can get away with, especially something like this.
This reason may seem stupid, but I will say it anyway. Mikhail Prokharov (owner of the Brooklyn Nets), is Russian, and so is Andrei Kirlilenko. I promise you I am not racist as I am Russian born and raised. Just when Russian business men get to the top, it isn't usually the most honest way .. but that's just a personal opinion of mine and I hope I don't offend any of my fellow Russian brothers.
I know this wont change anything, or whether it is indeed true. I just think Kirilenko wouldn't take such a pay cut even if it is for a championship.
Thanks for reading !
Kirilenko has made over 100 million in his career. When he signed with CSKA he donated his entire salary to charity. Could it be that money is no object for him?
His situation is no different from Ray Allen signing with the Heat last yr, yet people are trying to connect the dots because of the Russian connection.
If money is no object for him, then why'd he demand 8 million from the Spurs? Why'd he go to Brooklyn who isn't even close to having the best chance to winning it all? Why not take the minimum and go anywhere you want?
He didn't turn down 8 mill. The Spurs couldn't offer him 8 mill unless a sign and trade could've been worked out. The T'Wolves could not take on any more contracts after their signings and needing room to re-sign Pekovic so a sign and trade was not feasible.
I never said he turned down 8 million. That's what he was demanding from them, why demand 8 million from a better team than the Nets?.. I'm just saying, it's weird.
Huh? Brooklyn isn't even close to having a chance to win it all? That team sports a team that has a top ten positional player for ever position in their starting lineup, and their bench is versatile and big. While the Heat are still the team to beat in the East, I think it's safe to say the Nets are the favorites after them. KG and Lopez are the perfect compliment, and having Pierce and Johnson on the wings is just insane. I could easily see this years Nets team being on the same level, or even better than the Indiana team that brought the Heat to 7.
Thank you for nailing the obvious!
Prokhorov isn't just a rich man, he is kind of dangerous not only in business kind of way. I absolutely have no doubt he has a lot of ugly things going on in the background. This man is nasty and you should just google his bio or read a non related article about him. To transfer a few million unseen to someone is daily business for him.
Why didn't Prok get Kirilenko to sign last year with the Nets instead of with the Timberwolves for $10 million (plus another $10 million player option, which AK stupidly walked away from only to find that no one was offering him that kind of money)?
When a person makes over 100 million in his career he can certainly a tax write off or two to explaining Kirilenko donating his pay.
I'm not going to pretend to be an expert on Russian business but I can tell you I have a friend that I grew up with is a former successfull businessman in Novisibersk, Siberia. He finds it necessary to have bullet proof glass in his vehicle and an armed guard with him at all times.
This is no different than how Prokhorov operates... they are still in old west in terms of how they do business in many aspects and have very little concern for rules or contracts.
As for why the Nets didn't sign Kirilenko last year they were still dreaming of signing Dwight Howard and maintaining cap flexibility.
To be honest, the only reason we're digging some much into this is because he's Russian and so is the owner.
Ray Allen probably took the same amount of paycut and nobody said anything to him. Ginobili took a paycut his entire career but nobody has even thought about him getting money under the table.
Give me a break guys, players take less money EVERY year to be part of a contending team, especially one that the player has personal roots invested with.
I agree with you that players often take cuts. However, why was he demanding much higher money from better teams and settled for less from a team that isn't as good. He could of took a pay cut at San Antonio. Im just saying that it seems shady .. he of course is able to take a pay cut just because he wants to win a championship, he may of wanted to play with Deron Williams again, who knows.. however what he demanded before deciding with brooklyn doesn't coincide with the fact he wanted more money from better teams.
Siggy pulls out the NEG gun again! He tends to get a little flustered when it's beyond his realm.
What is out of my realm? A player who donates his entire salary is still not being compensated for his services. What was he doing, playing for tax write offs? He could've just donated a bunch of money while still being paid and would've received similar tax relief.
realm - a knowledge domain that you are interested in or are communicating about; "it was a limited realm of discourse"; "here we enter the region of opinion";
Now how is anything being discussed in this thread out of my realm? If I didn't have an opinion on this matter I would not have commented.
Kirilenko.... isn't a good guy. He's a great guy and a under appreciated basketball player. But he's also a business man.
He's a puppet at this jucture and I'm sure he's probably scared of Prokhorov. Prokhorov probably earns his wings long after John Gotti and Al Capone receive their wings.
Yeah, he's a businessman who once played for free, while at the same time having the highest salary on the books in all of Europe. He didn't just give up chump change. It's not a huge leap in logic to see that and think that he'd give up money to play for a contender and an owner he wants to play for.
Does Prokhorov being the owner have a lot to do with Kirilenko playing there? Absolutely, but it does not necessarily mean that AK's definitely taking money under the table.
The limited point.
I'm just jerking you chain a bit.
This isn't 1060 Addison St. we are talking about. You need to do a little bit of brushing up on your Russian history fella. My goodness you are sheltered... you must think Satan steals your soul if you eat meat on Fridays during Lenten.
Naive for you is 10 streets before you dare crossing.
What does my knowledge of Russian history have to do with anything? It's pretty simple. AK is a guy who has taken less money, or in his case no money, to play where he wanted to play.
Furthermore, if money WAS an issue for AK in this decision, you don't think that having a stronger standing with a billionaire won't have any long term ramifications after his career is over?
Going back to the realm thing... you are thinking in American business terms developed over the past 300 yrs. Russian business is done a bit differently, kind of like when Putin walked off with Robert Krafts Super Bowl ring. It's not about rules. It's just business to them and rules rarely apply.
My friend that lives in Russia/Novisibersk is currently being tried for fraud/corruption. It's the last thing I'd have thought that he'd ever be involved with, but he is. He's obviously become just another part of the Russian business process and will have to pay the price for it.
PurpleMonkeyDishwasher although your name is awesome shut the hell up. You have no idea what you are talking about. 1st off I highly doubt you have a friend who is a prominent Russian businessman. Second of all you have no idea how Prokhorov works and you are basically saying that all 144 million Russians are corrupt because a few Russians have been proved corrupt.
The only thing you have said on this thread that I know is true is when you stated you weren't an expert on Russian business.
There is no basis for anything you have said.
Google it d-bag. Former owner of New York pizza, New York Times night club Novisibersk Russian. Home office Richfield Minnesota. Own numerous other companies now on trial.
Is it the seed of siggy that you are choking on?
I'm not saying this is the reason, but it could possibly play into it. did anyone think that because of the Russian connection (AK47 is very nationalistic) he wanted to win it for the first Russian owner in the nba? Even if there was or was not money in the background, I feel it is just in his nature to support his country and i'm sure it would be a big thing in Russia to have its proactive Russian owner win a NBA title with one of the best Russian players of his generation.
Again i'm not saying this is the sole determinant, but I believe it could play into what AK47 was thinking.
Good point! Europeans in many instances will &$#%#&@! somebody up for where they come from. It's something American's should do more of now a days rather than fighting amongst themselves over politicians.
If he was so nationalistic as you pointed out why didnt he sign with the Nets last year when given the chance.
Is they produce great p-ornography
Karl malone gary payton took vet minimum to play for lakers back in the day