Andre Drummond Stock on the decline ?
I didn't say "drummond" will turn out to be a better professional player than davis.... I don't know (and I personaly don't think he will), I don't see in future ....
I think he will be DRAFTED before davis.... as oden was picked before durant (and so on....). That's the lesson we have to learn from the past. PLayers like Drummond are so rare, so attractive for nba scouts.... they always become 1st picks.
good thing bad thing...? I don't care, that is almost like an unwritten rule.... cause the reward can be HUGE.
agreed, hence the +1 fvckswagg, but dude, as of late davis has been touching the ball on imo 40% of kentucky's possessions. not in the post, but in the perimeter. all that davis face-up game potential at the beginning of the season was nothing more than speculation. it wasn't long ago when he first started using his face-up game, slashing game, leading the break. since then, he's been included in UK's ball circulation A LOT more
His upside is just too large to igonre. At worst he'll be a DeAndre Jordan, hopefully he'll be more of an Andrew Bynum.
That's where the age limit comes in. The limit is there to protect the owners from themselves. When potential NBA players enter the draft at age 18, there are still a large amount of question marks determining what a players skills and potential are. With only high-school information to go on, GMs and owners are woefully unknowledgeable to decide whether a player will be any good or not. Just ask Derrick Caracter. GMs are so worried about missing out on the next Lebron James or Kevin Garnett, that they often pick unproven rookies that might turn out one way or the other. That's why the age limit is in place, to give GMs a better idea of the talents of a prospect so that they can make smarter drafting decisions.
Even if they have that extra year, many GMs rank prospects based on that almighty "potential" or "upside". Many teams drafting in any position (especially the Top 10 and the late 1st round) will pass on an upperclassman with proven skills (Tyler Zeller) in favor of a raw player with ridiculous upside (Drummond) it's a real problem and often causes GMs to make many stupid decisions, a la Hasheem Thabeet, Jordan Hill, Jonny Flynn, numerous Markos, Darkos, Zarkos, and the list goes on. That's just the cycle we're in unless we do something to change it.
exactly.... and that's why even with a bad tournament drummond will only have to make one good workout or a good combine to be drafted before sullinger, thompson (...) and surely davis.
doubt that was a standing dunk, but he has truly elite standing vertical which lots of players lack. why doesn't he dunk it more??? always coming up with weak layups.
i have yet seen a drummond facialiser lol
anyone that watches uconn games knows that is true ^^^^^^
the guy barely uses his physical ability on offense. can you imagine drummond with say, mkg mentality, it would be scary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
At worst he'll be a DeAndre Jordan, hopefully he'll be more of an Andrew Bynum.
Neither of them were that high of draft picks. Bynum late lottery, Jordan 2nd round.
I know he's an athlete. I know he's going to get better. I know UConn doesn't run a perfect system for him. And I know there are alot more questions about Anthony Davis than the media likes to admit.
Still, this draft has some sure thing wing players, and a couple of sure thing big men. Taking a risk isn't worth a top 2 pick, especially when it isn't going to address a need. Toronto and Washington need to someone to contribute immediately. Not 3 years down the road.
I can't see Toronto, for example, taking Drummond 2. Washington might since they have Jan and Singleton as forwards. Charolette should, as should NO.
That dunk means nothing - look at the opposition, the tallest player only looks 6"8 or 6"9 at the most - Not exactly NBA size or quality
Every single time I have watched Drummond this year, he has underwhelmed. He misses point blank lay ups, lacks awareness, and possesses no offensive game outside of dunking. At some point, he has to start producing before we start saying he is a top 3 pick. Even more disconcerting is that he made virtually no improvement in any area throughout the course of the season. If I were a GM, I would take a flier on him with a late first round pick, but I have to see some production and/or improvement before I risk my job and franchise drafting this kid, who has proven absolutely nothing against high level competition.
The real problem with Drummond is he can be anywhere from Kwame to Dwight. As a GM, do you do the right thing and shoot for the franchise player, or take less risk with say Barnes and remain secure in your job?
Are you trying to say that Barnes isn't a franchise player, or that he is a safer pick? Because Barnes is the better player, and will elevate whichever team he is on immediately.
Drummond will be better than Kwame IMO because he's better defensively, and can protect the rim. Kwame has never been able to protect the rim. I think a better comparison for Drummond is, will he be more like Chandler, or my like Biedrins?
drummond can be no worst than deandre jordan, or pretty close to it. kwame "tiny hands" brown cant even catch the ball, and has 0 defensive value.
Sigh - I was going for extreme examples of what a top pick can be. Eddy Curry or Dwight... better? Olowokandi or Amare...
Barnes is a much safer pick.
That being said, isn't he basically Luol Deng minus being an elite defender?