[valentine]

 Derived from the guy that just wrote an essay on Hezonja.  And I also just saw Nurkic play who seems really talented, and Pekovic who is another beast.   

A lot of times the situation a foreign player is drafted into makes the biggest difference.  

Also, the mentality of the player, is he gonna be a bull ready to take on any challenge (Parker), is he talented enoguh that the game is easy and his mindset doesn’t get in the way, meaning his game translates into any league (Kukoc), or is he the guy that misses the touches he got at home and just misses home and hates the American and NBA lifestyle (R. Fernandez).  

With the wave of foreign players coming into the league, these are the (European descent) guys whose game and mindset has brought them fame in America (very impressive).  Pay homage to the guys that paved the way for them.

I am gonna assign a starter and bench player to each position.

PG – Starter – Tony Parker, Bench – Goran Dragic.  (Rubio, if Parker doesn’t count)

SG – Starter – Manu Ginobli, Bench – Drazen Petrovic.

SF – Starter – Peja Stojakovic, Bench – Toni Kukoc.

PF – Starter – Dirk Nowitzki, Bench – Pau Gasol

C – Starter – Arvydas Sabonis, Bench – Vlade Divac

Foreign talent needs to be compared to these guys.  

 

[Champzilla21Participant]

 Manu is from argentina

[Champzilla21Participant]

 Manu is from argentina

[PhillytheKid]

thats why i said European Descent homie.  Argentinians are basically Italians that were too proud to mix genes with the local Natives and kept their pure heritage.  Also, Tony Parker is black.

 

[PhillytheKid]

thats why i said European Descent homie.  Argentinians are basically Italians that were too proud to mix genes with the local Natives and kept their pure heritage.  Also, Tony Parker is black.

 

[King CaluchaParticipant]

Technically most people from Latinamerica is spanish descent. It doesn’t count, mate.

[King CaluchaParticipant]

Technically most people from Latinamerica is spanish descent. It doesn’t count, mate.

[European BasketballerParticipant]

People from Argentina are by the vast majority Italian/German. Stop being stupid. And yes, Manu is definitely Italian. He’s an Italian Jew. Ginobili is a Jewish Italian name and that’s common knowledge. So stop trolling.

[European BasketballerParticipant]

People from Argentina are by the vast majority Italian/German. Stop being stupid. And yes, Manu is definitely Italian. He’s an Italian Jew. Ginobili is a Jewish Italian name and that’s common knowledge. So stop trolling.

[juves4783Participant]

where’s larry bird on your list then?  he’s of english/irish decent.

[juves4783Participant]

where’s larry bird on your list then?  he’s of english/irish decent.

[PhillytheKid]

have your fun clowns.  I know Argentinia is in S. America, which is not the same as Europe.  

Most of you all did not realize how close Argentinia is to Italy, which is why they consider themselves above and different from the rest of the S. American countries.

Anyways, carry on.  Ima keep on posting interesting stuff.

[BogDon_KryptParticipant]

My all-euro league is as follows:

PG – JJ Barea with Detlef Shremf as a backup

SG: JR Smith with Darko Milicic as a backup

SF: Linus Kleiza with Joakim Noah as backup

PF: Karl ‘the Mail Man" Malone with Nate "Arbor Day" Robinson as a backup

C Arvydas Sabonis with Toni Kukoc as a backup

That’d be one heck of a team.  They’d defintely be a top 3 seed in the East.

[BogDon_KryptParticipant]

My all-euro league is as follows:

PG – JJ Barea with Detlef Shremf as a backup

SG: JR Smith with Darko Milicic as a backup

SF: Linus Kleiza with Joakim Noah as backup

PF: Karl ‘the Mail Man" Malone with Nate "Arbor Day" Robinson as a backup

C Arvydas Sabonis with Toni Kukoc as a backup

That’d be one heck of a team.  They’d defintely be a top 3 seed in the East.

[King CaluchaParticipant]

 hahahaha are you argentinian?

 

[King CaluchaParticipant]

 hahahaha are you argentinian?

 

[raybeasParticipant]

from Italy to Argentina. That’s pretty close.
Lots of Italians and Germans (Fascists and Nazis) moved to Argentina after WWII, so many Argentines consider themselves “superior” to other South American countries.
Not sure what this means for basketball, just some knowledge for ya.

[PhillytheKid]

for informing the basketball people on this site whose contributions I enjoy.  next question is what generation Argentinian in Ginobli.  

I thought he spoke italian with Kobe, but I don’t care enough.

 

I threw him in because he’s a Euro-style baller, with most likely a completely European genotype, so that qualified for me.  

Tony Parker, btw, is African heritage, so how are we calling him European, if his genotype, is full of African genes?

 

Its not as simple as what continent you are from…it has more to do with what area are you defined by.  This is getting too deep…keep on negging. 

[King CaluchaParticipant]

I am southamerican, so I know what you’re talking about.

It is true that argentinians are known for having a really high self-esteem (eventhough all the argentinians I know are really humble, hard-working people). I don’t really think it has to do much with the nazi ancestry that you’re talking about. In fact, amongst the 100 most common surnames in Argentina, only 2 or 3 are of italian origin, the rest is spanish. The matter of the fact is that there is a lot of nationalism over there; the same could be argued about Mexico and other american countries… like the US.

Do not repeat what someone told you if you haven’t checked the facts.

 

PS: Of course, Manu plays euro-style basketball… he played in Europe lol

 

[European BasketballerParticipant]

You are trolling. Almost every player Argentina ever had in basketball is Italian. Stop it.

[European BasketballerParticipant]

You are trolling. Almost every player Argentina ever had in basketball is Italian. Stop it.

[King CaluchaParticipant]

I am southamerican, so I know what you’re talking about.

It is true that argentinians are known for having a really high self-esteem (eventhough all the argentinians I know are really humble, hard-working people). I don’t really think it has to do much with the nazi ancestry that you’re talking about. In fact, amongst the 100 most common surnames in Argentina, only 2 or 3 are of italian origin, the rest is spanish. The matter of the fact is that there is a lot of nationalism over there; the same could be argued about Mexico and other american countries… like the US.

Do not repeat what someone told you if you haven’t checked the facts.

 

PS: Of course, Manu plays euro-style basketball… he played in Europe lol

 

[PhillytheKid]

for informing the basketball people on this site whose contributions I enjoy.  next question is what generation Argentinian in Ginobli.  

I thought he spoke italian with Kobe, but I don’t care enough.

 

I threw him in because he’s a Euro-style baller, with most likely a completely European genotype, so that qualified for me.  

Tony Parker, btw, is African heritage, so how are we calling him European, if his genotype, is full of African genes?

 

Its not as simple as what continent you are from…it has more to do with what area are you defined by.  This is getting too deep…keep on negging. 

[raybeasParticipant]

from Italy to Argentina. That’s pretty close.
Lots of Italians and Germans (Fascists and Nazis) moved to Argentina after WWII, so many Argentines consider themselves “superior” to other South American countries.
Not sure what this means for basketball, just some knowledge for ya.

[PhillytheKid]

have your fun clowns.  I know Argentinia is in S. America, which is not the same as Europe.  

Most of you all did not realize how close Argentinia is to Italy, which is why they consider themselves above and different from the rest of the S. American countries.

Anyways, carry on.  Ima keep on posting interesting stuff.

[sitlbitoParticipant]

Tony Parker is american,so if he’s african,he’s as african as every black nba player. So you make a difference between black and whites american players then?

[sitlbitoParticipant]

Tony Parker is american,so if he’s african,he’s as african as every black nba player. So you make a difference between black and whites american players then?

[zolaParticipant]

Manu is from Argentina, but he spent big part of his career in Europe and became a player he is in Europe so I agree with you when you put him at your list

The same story is with Scola, Nocioni, Prigioni, Delfino, Oberto

 

[European BasketballerParticipant]

And also that every single one of those players is Italian.

[European BasketballerParticipant]

And also that every single one of those players is Italian.

[zolaParticipant]

Manu is from Argentina, but he spent big part of his career in Europe and became a player he is in Europe so I agree with you when you put him at your list

The same story is with Scola, Nocioni, Prigioni, Delfino, Oberto

 

[agentoaktreeParticipant]

 I think by consensus we try to just go by passport instead of going by your interpretation of a history textbook. 

[agentoaktreeParticipant]

 I think by consensus we try to just go by passport instead of going by your interpretation of a history textbook. 

[European BasketballerParticipant]

Ginobili has an Italian passport. So what is your point?

The guy in your avatar has a Greek passport. So again, what is your point?

 

Or did you think people can only have a passport for one nationality in the world?

 

 

[European BasketballerParticipant]

Ginobili has an Italian passport. So what is your point?

The guy in your avatar has a Greek passport. So again, what is your point?

 

Or did you think people can only have a passport for one nationality in the world?

 

 

[UsernameParticipant]

 Manu is from Argentina…

[UsernameParticipant]

 Manu is from Argentina…

[King CaluchaParticipant]

Yes, Manu is from Argentina.

Besides that, I think people tend to forget how good Drazen was. He just happened to leave us a little too early.

[King CaluchaParticipant]

Yes, Manu is from Argentina.

Besides that, I think people tend to forget how good Drazen was. He just happened to leave us a little too early.

[cabbycabParticipant]

dont forget Frederic Weiss

[cabbycabParticipant]

dont forget Frederic Weiss

[theEDGEParticipant]

 Maybe you could start Sarunas Marciolunas(or how it’s spelled) the former Warrior at the SG spot.

i do think that Petrovic was a PG also.

[theEDGEParticipant]

 Maybe you could start Sarunas Marciolunas(or how it’s spelled) the former Warrior at the SG spot.

i do think that Petrovic was a PG also.

[King CaluchaParticipant]

 Drazen was the definition of a SG.

[King CaluchaParticipant]

 Drazen was the definition of a SG.

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

My All Time Euro Team:

Starters:

 PG Tony Parker

 SG Drazen Petrovic

 SF Peja Stojakovic

 PF Dirk Nowitzki

 C   Arvydas Sabonis

Bench

PG Ricky Rubio

SG Manu Ginobili

SF Toni Kukoc

PF Pau Gasol

C   Vlade Divac

Reserves

 SF Andrei Kirilenko

PF Boris Diaw

C Marc Gasol

 

I want Andrei Kirilenko as a reserve for length and athleticism at the forward spots.  He was a stat stuffing, dunking, defender in his prime.  I like Boris Diaw for passing and versatility.  Can’t forget about Marc Gasol either.  

The first team has some incredible shooters and scorers with more size and passing off the bench.  Manu and Toni are two of the better 6th men in league history.

The bench doesn’t have as many shooters as the first team, but the size is awesome andfeatures some really great passers.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

My All Time Euro Team:

Starters:

 PG Tony Parker

 SG Drazen Petrovic

 SF Peja Stojakovic

 PF Dirk Nowitzki

 C   Arvydas Sabonis

Bench

PG Ricky Rubio

SG Manu Ginobili

SF Toni Kukoc

PF Pau Gasol

C   Vlade Divac

Reserves

 SF Andrei Kirilenko

PF Boris Diaw

C Marc Gasol

 

I want Andrei Kirilenko as a reserve for length and athleticism at the forward spots.  He was a stat stuffing, dunking, defender in his prime.  I like Boris Diaw for passing and versatility.  Can’t forget about Marc Gasol either.  

The first team has some incredible shooters and scorers with more size and passing off the bench.  Manu and Toni are two of the better 6th men in league history.

The bench doesn’t have as many shooters as the first team, but the size is awesome andfeatures some really great passers.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[i’m jus so offendedParticipant]

 

Starters:

T. Parker

D. Petrozic

T. Kukoc

D. Nowitzki

A. Sabonis

Bench

P. Gasol

 

M. Gasol P. Stojakovic A. Kirilenko V. Divac S. Jasikvicius D. Schrempf

[i’m jus so offendedParticipant]

 

Starters:

T. Parker

D. Petrozic

T. Kukoc

D. Nowitzki

A. Sabonis

Bench

P. Gasol

 

M. Gasol P. Stojakovic A. Kirilenko V. Divac S. Jasikvicius D. Schrempf

[King CaluchaParticipant]

I’d argue that Marciulionis had a big impact on other Euro/foreign players going to the NBA. He was a solid 6th man for a great team. Jasikevicius was a player that I liked a lot, but he only played a couple of seasons in the NBA.

[King CaluchaParticipant]

I’d argue that Marciulionis had a big impact on other Euro/foreign players going to the NBA. He was a solid 6th man for a great team. Jasikevicius was a player that I liked a lot, but he only played a couple of seasons in the NBA.

[GrandmamaParticipant]

The European country that is Argentina….lmao

[GrandmamaParticipant]

The European country that is Argentina….lmao

[CameronCrazy11Participant]

 Fun fact: Dominique Wilkins was born in Paris, France.

[European BasketballerParticipant]

Steve Kerr was born in Lebanon.

Carlos Boozer was born in Germany.

Must not be Americans according to some morons here.

 

Tony Parker was born in Belgium…must not be French then.

 

Kobe lived in Italy as a kid – must not be American.

 

Shaq lived in Germany as a kid – must not be American.

 

There are dozens such examples. It is completely ridiculous and stupid to make up these imaginary rules about a player’s nationality passport, "where they come from", or "who debeloped them", or all this other ridiculous crap.

Stop it people.

It is perfectly fine to say Ginobili is Italian, because he is Italian. He’s Argentine-Italian, and that is a fact. You are disuputing a fact if you say otherwise. He can be considered a European player because he has Italy citizenship, lived their, speaks the language, played there and and is Italian. So saying he can’t be considered from Italy is beyond stupid and is xenophobia stuff at minimun and looks close to racism.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[European BasketballerParticipant]

Steve Kerr was born in Lebanon.

Carlos Boozer was born in Germany.

Must not be Americans according to some morons here.

 

Tony Parker was born in Belgium…must not be French then.

 

Kobe lived in Italy as a kid – must not be American.

 

Shaq lived in Germany as a kid – must not be American.

 

There are dozens such examples. It is completely ridiculous and stupid to make up these imaginary rules about a player’s nationality passport, "where they come from", or "who debeloped them", or all this other ridiculous crap.

Stop it people.

It is perfectly fine to say Ginobili is Italian, because he is Italian. He’s Argentine-Italian, and that is a fact. You are disuputing a fact if you say otherwise. He can be considered a European player because he has Italy citizenship, lived their, speaks the language, played there and and is Italian. So saying he can’t be considered from Italy is beyond stupid and is xenophobia stuff at minimun and looks close to racism.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[CameronCrazy11Participant]

 Fun fact: Dominique Wilkins was born in Paris, France.

[trueone313detroitParticipant]

 

 

 

 

PG – Tony Parker/Rubio

SG – Drazen/ Hedo (SF Too)

SF Kukoc/ Peja

PF – Dirk/P. Gasol /{AK47/Boris (SF too)}

C  – Sabonis/ Divac

Honable mention:

C. Kaman (Part Germany)

M. Pietus

 

 

[trueone313detroitParticipant]

 

 

 

 

PG – Tony Parker/Rubio

SG – Drazen/ Hedo (SF Too)

SF Kukoc/ Peja

PF – Dirk/P. Gasol /{AK47/Boris (SF too)}

C  – Sabonis/ Divac

Honable mention:

C. Kaman (Part Germany)

M. Pietus

 

 

[llperez]

 surprised not one person has mentioned detlef schrempf yet. He was a 3x all-star and averaged 15+ ppg 11 years in a row including one year where he put up 19-10-6

[llperez]

 surprised not one person has mentioned detlef schrempf yet. He was a 3x all-star and averaged 15+ ppg 11 years in a row including one year where he put up 19-10-6

[llperez]

 nvm, just saw schrempf was mentioned twice already

[llperez]

 nvm, just saw schrempf was mentioned twice already

[Singler25Participant]

 What do you guys think of Ilgauskas and Smits? 

 

Just an idea…

 

 

[Singler25Participant]

 What do you guys think of Ilgauskas and Smits? 

 

Just an idea…

 

 

[Mr. HookShotParticipant]

Finally our one and only Dunkin Dutchman gets mentioned. He had a very nice career, versatile big man who could shoot, score and give away brilliant passes. Where it not for his foot problems he might had have an even better NBA career than Divac, although Divac won championships with his country as well (which is impossible considering Smits is basically the only star basketball player we have ever had in the Netherlands).

On a side note: his son Derrik Smits (C, 7’0, 3 star player) committed to Valparaiso next year to play D-1 basketball.

[Mr. HookShotParticipant]

Finally our one and only Dunkin Dutchman gets mentioned. He had a very nice career, versatile big man who could shoot, score and give away brilliant passes. Where it not for his foot problems he might had have an even better NBA career than Divac, although Divac won championships with his country as well (which is impossible considering Smits is basically the only star basketball player we have ever had in the Netherlands).

On a side note: his son Derrik Smits (C, 7’0, 3 star player) committed to Valparaiso next year to play D-1 basketball.

[barbabodomParticipant]

 Never go full retarded op, never go full retarded.

Also, Oscar Schmidt has an european surname, maybe he should be in this squad too…

 

[barbabodomParticipant]

 Never go full retarded op, never go full retarded.

Also, Oscar Schmidt has an european surname, maybe he should be in this squad too…

 

[HitsterParticipant]

Interesting topic if we all know where Europe actually is!

Good call to remember Rik Smits to although I cannot quite get him into a big man rotation.

I was waiting for someone to make a claim for some of the GB Team like Deng who wasn’t born in England but obviously holds an English passport.

I was waiting for someone to try and get Kobe in as he lived in Italy for a few years.

[HitsterParticipant]

Interesting topic if we all know where Europe actually is!

Good call to remember Rik Smits to although I cannot quite get him into a big man rotation.

I was waiting for someone to make a claim for some of the GB Team like Deng who wasn’t born in England but obviously holds an English passport.

I was waiting for someone to try and get Kobe in as he lived in Italy for a few years.

[European BasketballerParticipant]

A whole bunch of people played for USA but were not born in USA. A whole bunch of players are listed by NBA as "American" but were not born in USA.

 

stop being a moron.

Your nationality is not solely decided by what country you are born in.

Some people here must be about 8 years old.

 

 

 

 

[European BasketballerParticipant]

A whole bunch of people played for USA but were not born in USA. A whole bunch of players are listed by NBA as "American" but were not born in USA.

 

stop being a moron.

Your nationality is not solely decided by what country you are born in.

Some people here must be about 8 years old.

 

 

 

 

[European BasketballerParticipant]

Also, this should be called “NBA top European squad”. It only considers NBA players.

[European BasketballerParticipant]

Also, this should be called “NBA top European squad”. It only considers NBA players.

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