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All Finesse, No Power

What has happened to the NBA? It seems as if every player nowadays swerves away from contact and tries to be more of a finesse player. Now with super athletic point guards in Westbrook, Rose, and Wall driving the lane and avoiding contract and dominant big men who don't bang very often, Gasol, Bosh, Howard (At times). It seems as if the NBA game is becoming more of a finesse game.

The only power players we have are guys like Shaq, KG, LeBron, Wade, Bynum, Pierce, Jefferson, Duncan, and Noah. Most of those guys are ready to retire.

The finesse game, although fun to watch.. I'd rather watch power games.. Games where Iverson goes to the basket with wreckless abandon, games where Shaq pushes everybody out of the way, games where Karl Malone dunks on everybody's heads. Those days seem to be coming to an end, rapidly. With rising superstars like Evans, Jennings, Durant, Westbrook, Wall, Rose, and Rondo taking a more finesse approach, what's going to happen 5 years from now? The only rising star that looks for contact is Blake Griffin.

Where have the Kemps, Shaqs, Ben Wallaces, and Patrick Ewings gone? Will we ever see towering bigs that decide to use their physical gifts to take over games rather than their athleticism?

Who's going to intimidate players as well as shut them down defensively like Rasheed, Ben Wallace, Garnett and Kenyon Mart?

Where is the NBA headed with this soft approach? I don't want to know..


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Blake Griffin.

Blake Griffin.

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If you actually read you, you

If you actually read you, you would have seen

"The only rising star that looks for contact is Blake Griffin."

Smh..

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I think its that Euro style

I think its that Euro style taking over the NBA, as well as guys are not playing as hard as they possibly could because they want to prolong thier careers. They see how high fliers like Vince, T-Mac, Steve Francis and Kemp have have to deal with so much injuries late in their careers (albeit Vince faked most of his) and they don't play as hard.

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Yes

But you forgot one player...

Blake Griffin.

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Your forgot to forget about

Your forgot to forget about Blake Griffin.

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WTH, are you guys stupid you

WTH, are you guys stupid you can you guys simply not read? I clearly wrote:

"The only rising star that looks for contact is Blake Griffin."

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theres lots of role player

theres lots of role player bangers. Reggie evans, jon brockman, paul millsap, dejuan blair etc... Plus i would take shawn kemp off that list. He could get up and bang on dudes and had flashy highlights, but he was a finnesse player.

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The NBA has grown soft in

The NBA has grown soft in general. It isn't as physical as it used to be, nor is it as competitive.

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What about Blake Griffin? He

What about Blake Griffin? He looks for contact...I read and reread your post several times and didn't see his name at all.

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Jared Sullinger is a top

Jared Sullinger is a top prospect who has a power game. Kenneth Faried has a power game and is a projected 1st rounder. Thomas Robinson hates the rim and will be in the draft mix in 2012 or 2013, there are a few power players I can think of coming up through the college ranks.

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Hey Tongue-Out-Like-23 I read

Hey Tongue-Out-Like-23 I read your posts all the time and I really respect your basketball knowledge, but how could you forget about Blake Griffin?? He looks for contact all the time.

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i think howard does plenty of

i think howard does plenty of banging. Plus you forgot about blake griffin.

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Blake Griffin??

Blake Griffin??

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AI was a freak who for such

AI was a freak who for such amall guy could dominate much bigger players and Shaq was just so physically huge and strong at his peak that he was almost impossible to stop. The European finesse bigs such as Nowitzki, Pau Gasol and potentially Bargnani have set a trend to some degree and with a lot of teams going smallball then there have developed hybrid forwards maybe like Diaw or Lee who can play a number of positions.

Blake Griffin could actually become even more dominant inside as he develops and the older more physical players retire. There will be inside defensive players but there could certainly a lack of inside offensive players as various players retire. To have a 3 point range is nice but when you are nearly 7ft 280lbs like some prospects or younger NBA players then you should really make your presense felt inside the paint not at the 3 point line.

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Blake Griffin

I can't believe Blake Griffin hasn't been mentioned yet.

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KG is not a power player even

KG is not a power player even though he acts like he is on the court with the attitude he carries.

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Um.. What's going on here?

Um.. What's going on here? Blake Griffin, buddy.

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U GUYS HE MENTIONED BLAKE

U GUYS HE MENTIONED BLAKE GRIFFIN!!!!!!!!

"The only rising star that looks for contact is Blake Griffin."

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I think it has alot to do

I think it has alot to do with the rule changes...The Rules allow offensive players to have more freedom in today's game...

Studies show they kids grow much faster today.. .than they did about 30 years ago..alot of centers played guard in jr. high and spent time on the perimeter ..But by the time they got to high school they grown several inches and becuz of their height the coaches made them centers & forwards...When i was in jr. high in the 8th grade i was 5'6..By the time i got to 12th grade i was 6'4...

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Blake Griffin

Geez, why has no one mentioned Blake Griffin yet?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

But really I suprised Amare hasnt been metioned yet, he is a dominant big man mainly beacuse of his power, atleast on offense.

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From the end of the 3rd

From the end of the 3rd paragraph.

"THE ONLY RISING STAR THAT LOOKS FOR CONTACT IS BLAKE GRIFFIN"

You guys have to learn to READ

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lmao. Taylor Griffin? lolwut?

lmao. Taylor Griffin? lolwut?

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This post would be perfect if

This post would be perfect if only you'd have remembered Blake Griffin.

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Howd you forget Blake

Howd you forget Blake Griffin?

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NEXT TIME READ ENTIRE POST

NEXT TIME READ ENTIRE POST BEFORE COMMENTING!!!! hahahahaha

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a lot of guys look like

a lot of guys look like idoiots no offense.... read!!!!!!!

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Did i miss the part where

Did i miss the part where spending your career shooting fadeaway 18 footers makes you a banger?

KG is no banger. It is fading away, because of the rules, and because of the early decade Kings/Mavs/Suns approach of scoring 130 points and small is better than big, and the obsession now with building teams around point guards, since there are really 7 (Cp3, Deron, Rose, Rondo, Westbrook, Wall, and even Jennings to an extent) young and upcoming franchise type PGs.

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laughable

Its very laughable how some of you jumped on this dude. He did say the only guy that looks for contact is Blake Griffin. Wow so amazing, but Amar'e is pretty physical as well. But the rules changes have disallowed some of the contact from yesteryears. No hand checking, no message fouls, severe fines for hard fouls, all are designed for guards to have more control over the game. It is the way Stern is guiding his league through the new millenium. Scores were low as a result of poor shooting so give the guards that can slash to the basket more of an advantage. Think how many power forwards that are 6-10 and up can shoot the 20 footer now. Roles have changed and also who is the best American back-to-the-basket center? Exactly, there isn't one.

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I see what you're saying but

I see what you're saying but there are still guys who like to bang down low.

Kevin Love, Carlos Boozer, Zach Randolph, Paul Millsap, Gerald Wallace, Andrew Bogut and Andrew Bynum are all guys with power games who are either in their prime or getting there.

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Kevin Love

Kevin Love is a very tough player. Thats one reason he gets so many rebounds. He out works the guy playing him and is just plan tougher then most guys.

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haha

haha i know you guys are joking about leaving Griffin out of OP's post.

Yeah, i agree, the NBA is getting softer and softer, it seems a multiple amount of things have made it that way, hand checking, not being able to talk to the refs, not being able to taunt your opponents, lack of competitiveness or fire, more "stretch" PF's (not enough bangers), players being cradled by the media, more elite guards and less top tier bigmen, i could go on and on.

The game isn't that competitive anymore, i remember watching the 92' allstar game, Pippen's name got called during the player intro and he just blanked Ewing, you could feel the bad blood between them, i loved that. Nowadays, you get Chris Paul having slumber parties with whoever the Hornets are hosting and that just isn't right.

The NBA has just been watered down, i could go onto youtube now and watch a game from the 90's and just be completely glued do the monitor, whereas if i watched a recent game this season, (not including the epic Knicks-Celtics game) i wouldn't find it as interesting, because the players act like robots nowadays, no emotion. They're unfairly tagged as role models, so they can't do anything to hurt their image.

Alot of us have been waiting for a powerful, dominant, exciting bigman for a long time, Griffin has taken the league by storm, easily a top ten PF in the league already and i hope he has a long and healthy career.

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i still think he should have

i still think he should have at least included blake griffin when mentioning todays bangers and physical players. That guy brings it.

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Agreed LLPerez, this list is

Agreed LLPerez, this list is pretty much worthless without the beast that is Blake Griffin.

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A big part of the problem is

A big part of the problem is the refs are so quick to call ticky-tack fouls. The physical players are afraid of fouling out and maybe even getting cut. Watch a Lakers games, you look at those guys sideways and the refs call fouls. And a lot of American big men want to play like many of the European big men and shoot 3's all day. That's why a lot of undersized power forwards are making it in the league today; they're willing to do the dirty work. Guys like Paul Millsap, Jason Maxiell, Jon Brockman, Craig Smith, Chuck Hayes, Dejuan Blair and I'm pretty sure Jeff Adrien will be back at some point.

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I mad you guys keep bringing

I mad you guys keep bringing up Blake Griffin when he said it right in the middle of the thread.

Just people don't read.

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Sarcasm- A) A form of humor

Sarcasm- A) A form of humor that is marked by mocking with irony, sometimes conveyed in speech with vocal over-emphasis. B) Remarks that mean the opposite of what they seem to say and are intended to mock or deride.

Used in a sentence:

llperez- i still think he should have at least included blake griffin when mentioning todays bangers and physical players. That guy brings it.

RickyRubio9- lmao. Taylor Griffin? lolwut?

butidonthavemoney- But you forgot one player...

Blake Griffin.

Learn up people....

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LMFAO!! I wake up to read

LMFAO!! I wake up to read like 10 people say Blake Griffin hahahahhaa I know it's sarcasm, but I got a great laugh out of it. Thanks guys! LMFAO!!

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