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  • #25602
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    ilike.panochas
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    Jonas Valanciunas, Jan Vesely, Donatas Motiejunas, Enes Kanter are 4 European bigman that could go in the lottery and it is unprecedented. I don’t think it has ever happen that 4 Euro prospect go in the lottery. So with that said, I wanted to break it down and see who is better at certain aspects of the game, id like to get some unbias opinions, I know very few has actually seen some of these players actually play:

    Most Athletic ?

    Who has the best jump shot?

    Best Perimeter skills (this includes ball handling/shooting/passing combination)?

    Best Offensive Player on the Post?

    Best Defensive Player?

    Highest Upside?

    Most likely to be a bust?

    Most likely to be the best player out of these four?

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  • #484176
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    hotshotschamp
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    Most Athletic ?  Vesely

    Who has the best jump shot?  Motiejunas

    Best Perimeter skills (this includes ball handling/shooting/passing combination)? Motiejunas

    Best Offensive Player on the Post?Kanter

    Best Defensive Player?Valanciunas

    Highest Upside?Valanciunas

    Most likely to be a bust? Motiejunas

    Most likely to be the best player out of these four? Valanciunas

     

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  • #484177
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    hotshotschamp
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    Most Athletic ?  Vesely

    Who has the best jump shot?  Motiejunas

    Best Perimeter skills (this includes ball handling/shooting/passing combination)? Motiejunas

    Best Offensive Player on the Post?Kanter

    Best Defensive Player?Valanciunas

    Highest Upside?Valanciunas

    Most likely to be a bust? Motiejunas

    Most likely to be the best player out of these four? Valanciunas

     

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  • #484182
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    OhCanada-
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    Most Athletic ? – Jan Vesely

    Who has the best jump shot? – Donatas Motiejunas

    Best Perimeter skills (this includes ball handling/shooting/passing combination)? -Jan Vesely

    Best Offensive Player on the Post? – Ener Kanter

    Best Defensive Player? – Jonas Valanciunas

    Highest Upside?  – Jonas Valanciunas

    Most likely to be a bust? – Donatas Motiejunas

    Most likely to be the best player out of these four? -1) Jonas Valanciunas, 2) Enes Kanter, 3) Jan Vesely, 4) Donatas Motiejunas.

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  • #484183
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    OhCanada-
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    Most Athletic ? – Jan Vesely

    Who has the best jump shot? – Donatas Motiejunas

    Best Perimeter skills (this includes ball handling/shooting/passing combination)? -Jan Vesely

    Best Offensive Player on the Post? – Ener Kanter

    Best Defensive Player? – Jonas Valanciunas

    Highest Upside?  – Jonas Valanciunas

    Most likely to be a bust? – Donatas Motiejunas

    Most likely to be the best player out of these four? -1) Jonas Valanciunas, 2) Enes Kanter, 3) Jan Vesely, 4) Donatas Motiejunas.

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  • #484184
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    OhCanada-
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    Lol Hotshot great minds think alike.

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  • #484185
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    OhCanada-
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    Lol Hotshot great minds think alike.

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  • #484186
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    K.LOVE THE ALLSTAR

    Since there isn’t alot of Very good big men in this draft its a perfect year for Euros to go lotto. Actually this group could probably got lotto in most drafts

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    • #484196
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      hotshotschamp
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      I think Valanciunas and Kanter would go high in any draft.  It’s a shame we didn’t get to see Kanter more except for when he tore up Sullinger pretty good and tied an all time high with dirk in that exhibition game world v usa.

       

      Kanter, Valanciunas and Sullinger would go high in any draft imo.

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    • #484197
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      hotshotschamp
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      I think Valanciunas and Kanter would go high in any draft.  It’s a shame we didn’t get to see Kanter more except for when he tore up Sullinger pretty good and tied an all time high with dirk in that exhibition game world v usa.

       

      Kanter, Valanciunas and Sullinger would go high in any draft imo.

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  • #484187
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    K.LOVE THE ALLSTAR

    Since there isn’t alot of Very good big men in this draft its a perfect year for Euros to go lotto. Actually this group could probably got lotto in most drafts

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  • #484188
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    hotshotschamp
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    agree with all of that, including the ranking of the 4 guys.

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  • #484189
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    hotshotschamp
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    agree with all of that, including the ranking of the 4 guys.

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  • #484369
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    Kinguy11
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    Most Athletic ? Vesley

    Who has the best jump shot? Motiejunas

    Best Perimeter skills (this includes ball handling/shooting/passing combination)? Motiejunas

    Best Offensive Player on the Post? Kanter

    Best Defensive Player? Valanciunas

    Highest Upside? Kanter

    Most likely to be a bust? Motiejunas.

    Most likely to be the best player out of these four? 1) Valanciunas 2) Kanter, 3)Vesely 4) Motiejunas

    I know it is alot like OhCanada and Hotshot’s but it is because they are also accruate in their predictions.

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  • #484320
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    Kinguy11
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    Most Athletic ? Vesley

    Who has the best jump shot? Motiejunas

    Best Perimeter skills (this includes ball handling/shooting/passing combination)? Motiejunas

    Best Offensive Player on the Post? Kanter

    Best Defensive Player? Valanciunas

    Highest Upside? Kanter

    Most likely to be a bust? Motiejunas.

    Most likely to be the best player out of these four? 1) Valanciunas 2) Kanter, 3)Vesely 4) Motiejunas

    I know it is alot like OhCanada and Hotshot’s but it is because they are also accruate in their predictions.

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  • #484321
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    Kinguy11
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    Most Athletic ? Vesley

    Who has the best jump shot? Motiejunas

    Best Perimeter skills (this includes ball handling/shooting/passing combination)? Motiejunas

    Best Offensive Player on the Post? Kanter

    Best Defensive Player? Valanciunas

    Highest Upside? Kanter

    Most likely to be a bust? Motiejunas.

    Most likely to be the best player out of these four? 1) Valanciunas 2) Kanter, 3)Vesely 4) Motiejunas

    I know it is alot like OhCanada and Hotshot’s but it is because they are also accruate in their predictions.

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  • #484373
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    Mr. 19134
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    I have been high on Valanciunas since I heard about him and Kanter having an epic battle, then I saw what Kanter did to the Hoop Summit I thought what would of Valanciunas done if he were there.  I just love his game he’s a defensive freak, who contests everything.  I was hoping the Sixers would have a shot at him at the end of the lottery but he is shooting up the draft boards now.  He could move into the top 3.

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  • #484324
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    Mr. 19134
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    I have been high on Valanciunas since I heard about him and Kanter having an epic battle, then I saw what Kanter did to the Hoop Summit I thought what would of Valanciunas done if he were there.  I just love his game he’s a defensive freak, who contests everything.  I was hoping the Sixers would have a shot at him at the end of the lottery but he is shooting up the draft boards now.  He could move into the top 3.

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  • #484325
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    Mr. 19134
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    I have been high on Valanciunas since I heard about him and Kanter having an epic battle, then I saw what Kanter did to the Hoop Summit I thought what would of Valanciunas done if he were there.  I just love his game he’s a defensive freak, who contests everything.  I was hoping the Sixers would have a shot at him at the end of the lottery but he is shooting up the draft boards now.  He could move into the top 3.

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  • #484385
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    OhCanada-
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    Valanciunas would be a perfect fit in Toronto at C. Toronto loves to run the fast break, pick and roll, and allow their wings to make quick screens under the bigs. He would thrive in that type of setting offensively and defensvely he is the type of player Toronto has been looking for since theyve had a franchise.I was reading an article on draftexpress.com showing how effecient Big V is on the pick and roll, long story short he gets the job done.Imagine how much better Toronto could utilize Bargnani playing alongside Valanciunas, and then having Davis and Johnson off the bench.

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  • #484336
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    OhCanada-
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    Valanciunas would be a perfect fit in Toronto at C. Toronto loves to run the fast break, pick and roll, and allow their wings to make quick screens under the bigs. He would thrive in that type of setting offensively and defensvely he is the type of player Toronto has been looking for since theyve had a franchise.I was reading an article on draftexpress.com showing how effecient Big V is on the pick and roll, long story short he gets the job done.Imagine how much better Toronto could utilize Bargnani playing alongside Valanciunas, and then having Davis and Johnson off the bench.

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  • #484337
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    OhCanada-
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    Valanciunas would be a perfect fit in Toronto at C. Toronto loves to run the fast break, pick and roll, and allow their wings to make quick screens under the bigs. He would thrive in that type of setting offensively and defensvely he is the type of player Toronto has been looking for since theyve had a franchise.I was reading an article on draftexpress.com showing how effecient Big V is on the pick and roll, long story short he gets the job done.Imagine how much better Toronto could utilize Bargnani playing alongside Valanciunas, and then having Davis and Johnson off the bench.

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  • #484416
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    hotshotschamp
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    rubio

    wes johnson

    michael beasley

    kevin love

    Jonas Valanciunas

     

    could be a sexy team in a couple years.

     

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  • #484466
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    hotshotschamp
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    rubio

    wes johnson

    michael beasley

    kevin love

    Jonas Valanciunas

     

    could be a sexy team in a couple years.

     

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  • #484445
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    jaysmith1987
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    I think Kanter would be a first overall pick if he played this year but he got screwed by the ncaa. Wish he would have went to the dleague but guess he was advised not to. Sullinger prolly ends up number one but Kanter dominated him in the all star game. Whoever gets Kanter is goin to win in the long run.

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  • #484497
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    jaysmith1987
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    I think Kanter would be a first overall pick if he played this year but he got screwed by the ncaa. Wish he would have went to the dleague but guess he was advised not to. Sullinger prolly ends up number one but Kanter dominated him in the all star game. Whoever gets Kanter is goin to win in the long run.

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  • #484640
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    K.LOVE THE ALLSTAR

    Allstar games isn’t the best measurement of scouting someone. Its like open gym ball. Kanter also got worked at the Lebron james camp by alot of college big men including one of the Plumlees. He should go top 5 though

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  • #484589
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    K.LOVE THE ALLSTAR

    Allstar games isn’t the best measurement of scouting someone. Its like open gym ball. Kanter also got worked at the Lebron james camp by alot of college big men including one of the Plumlees. He should go top 5 though

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  • #484627
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    lalaila
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    wow why Donatas a bust? he is improving pretty fast  and his last couple games were really good while Jan still hasn’t true nba position imo and isn’t that much better than last year…

    with everything other i agree Enes and Jonas looks like to be the best out of four Enes is more ready  but Jonas has more upside and is a better defender 

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  • #484678
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    lalaila
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    wow why Donatas a bust? he is improving pretty fast  and his last couple games were really good while Jan still hasn’t true nba position imo and isn’t that much better than last year…

    with everything other i agree Enes and Jonas looks like to be the best out of four Enes is more ready  but Jonas has more upside and is a better defender 

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  • #484633
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    Hitster
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    All 4 have been high on various draft boards for the last couple of years, I can see Kanter perhaps being drafted the highest but I still feel that Motiejunas could be the most intriguing long term prospect whilst Kanter or Vesley may be the safer picks.

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  • #484684
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    Hitster
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    All 4 have been high on various draft boards for the last couple of years, I can see Kanter perhaps being drafted the highest but I still feel that Motiejunas could be the most intriguing long term prospect whilst Kanter or Vesley may be the safer picks.

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  • #484951
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    iguapops420
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    Most Athletic-Jan

    Jumpshot-Motiejunas

    Perimeter Skills-Vesely(close with Motie)

    Post O-Kanter

    D-Jonas

    Upside-Vesely

    Bust-Motie

    Likely Best-Kanter,Jonas,Vesely,Motie

     

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  • #484997
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    iguapops420
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    Most Athletic-Jan

    Jumpshot-Motiejunas

    Perimeter Skills-Vesely(close with Motie)

    Post O-Kanter

    D-Jonas

    Upside-Vesely

    Bust-Motie

    Likely Best-Kanter,Jonas,Vesely,Motie

     

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