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  • #32535
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    WizardofOz
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    1st Team:

    PG: Derrick Rose
    SG: Dwyane Wade
    SF: Rudy Gay
    PF: Blake Grffin
    C: JaVale McGee

    2nd team:

    PG: Russell Westbrook
    SG: Shannon Brown
    SF: Andre Igoudala
    PF: Josh Smith
    C: Dwight Howard

    3rd team:

    PG: John Wall
    SG: Sonny Weems
    SF: LeBron James
    PF: Tyrus Thomas
    C: DeAndre Jordan

    I know a lot of people are going to give me flack for putting LeBron on the 3rd team, but only a blind man can’t see that LeBron lost a severe amount of athleticism, whether it’s too to weight gain, wear-&-tear, etc. Not only did he not look as vertically explosive last season, I’m more worried about how poor his floor speed looked, especially in the playoffs. There were a few times in the Finals when Peja Stojakovic and J.J. Barea were guarding him, and he couldn’t get passed them! Maybe fatigue got to him, or he just gained too much muscle, but until he proves to me this is true, he’s staying put right where I left him. He did get pretty high on some of his dunks in the summer highlights I’ve seen, so hopefully he’s lost some weight and regains his speed.

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  • #587206
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    WizardofOz
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    Give me some of your teams.

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  • #587484
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    WizardofOz
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    Give me some of your teams.

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  • #587208
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    rileymcshea3
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     Dude even though its looks like LeBron lost some explosiveness there is still a reason he was such a big recruit out of high school ,its because he is a athletic freak! There is no way Igoudala is more athletic then LeBron

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  • #587486
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    rileymcshea3
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     Dude even though its looks like LeBron lost some explosiveness there is still a reason he was such a big recruit out of high school ,its because he is a athletic freak! There is no way Igoudala is more athletic then LeBron

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  • #587215
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    iguapops420
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     Iggy is my second favorite NBA player behind Bean, but there is no way he OR Rudy are more athletic than LBJ. Neither have the kind of strength of Bron. Rudy isn’t as strong as Iggy but has better length. To me Iggy is the 3rd most athletic but second with the ball in their hands.

    Rose

    Wade

    LBJ

    Griffin

    Dwight

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    Westbrook

    T.Allen

    Gay

    Ibaka

    McGee

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    Wall

    Gordon

    Iggy

    Smith

    Jordan

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    • #587218
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      WizardofOz
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      @iguapops420

      Being stronger or longer than someone else means you’re more PHYSICALLY gifted than the other person. Not more athletic.

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    • #587496
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      WizardofOz
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      @iguapops420

      Being stronger or longer than someone else means you’re more PHYSICALLY gifted than the other person. Not more athletic.

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  • #587494
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    iguapops420
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     Iggy is my second favorite NBA player behind Bean, but there is no way he OR Rudy are more athletic than LBJ. Neither have the kind of strength of Bron. Rudy isn’t as strong as Iggy but has better length. To me Iggy is the 3rd most athletic but second with the ball in their hands.

    Rose

    Wade

    LBJ

    Griffin

    Dwight

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    Westbrook

    T.Allen

    Gay

    Ibaka

    McGee

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    Wall

    Gordon

    Iggy

    Smith

    Jordan

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  • #587222
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    Anton123
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     Will Bynum is probably more athletic than John Wall, he’s a much worse player, but seems more athletic.

    I also think Howard should be on the first team, I mean he might not jump as high, but his combination of strength, agility and jumping ability is better than McGee’s.

    Maybe Serge Ibaka over Thomas?

    And if we talk pure athletic ability it’s hard to forget Nate Robinson.

    Maybe something like this:

    1st Team:

    PG: Derrick Rose
    SG: Dwyane Wade
    SF: Rudy Gay
    PF: Blake Grffin
    C: Dwight Howard

    2nd team:

    PG: Russell Westbrook
    SG: Shannon Brown
    SF: LeBron James
    PF: Josh Smith
    C: Javele McGee

    3rd team:

    PG: Nate Robinson
    SG: Will Bynum
    SF: Andre igoudala
    PF: Serge Ibaka
    C: DeAndre Jordan

     

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    • #587226
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      WizardofOz
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      @Anton123

      I put McGee over Howard on the 1st team because JaVale is quicker and more fluid than Dwight. Dwight is kind of stiff because of all that muscle he has, and he can’t jump off one foot. Dwight’s a freak though.

      And I forgot about Ibaka. I would put him over Thomas on the 3rd team.

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    • #587504
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      WizardofOz
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      @Anton123

      I put McGee over Howard on the 1st team because JaVale is quicker and more fluid than Dwight. Dwight is kind of stiff because of all that muscle he has, and he can’t jump off one foot. Dwight’s a freak though.

      And I forgot about Ibaka. I would put him over Thomas on the 3rd team.

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  • #587500
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    Anton123
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     Will Bynum is probably more athletic than John Wall, he’s a much worse player, but seems more athletic.

    I also think Howard should be on the first team, I mean he might not jump as high, but his combination of strength, agility and jumping ability is better than McGee’s.

    Maybe Serge Ibaka over Thomas?

    And if we talk pure athletic ability it’s hard to forget Nate Robinson.

    Maybe something like this:

    1st Team:

    PG: Derrick Rose
    SG: Dwyane Wade
    SF: Rudy Gay
    PF: Blake Grffin
    C: Dwight Howard

    2nd team:

    PG: Russell Westbrook
    SG: Shannon Brown
    SF: LeBron James
    PF: Josh Smith
    C: Javele McGee

    3rd team:

    PG: Nate Robinson
    SG: Will Bynum
    SF: Andre igoudala
    PF: Serge Ibaka
    C: DeAndre Jordan

     

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  • #587230
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    ItsVictorOladipo
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    1st Team:

    PG Derrick Rose

    SG Dwyane Wade

    SF Lebron James

    PF Blake Griffin

    C Dwight Howard

     

    2nd Team

    PG Russell Westbrook

    SG Shannon Brown

    SF Andre Iguodala

    PF Serge Ibaka

    C JaVale McGee

     

    3rd Team

    G Nate Robinson

    G JR Smith

    SF Rudy Gay

    PF Josh Smith

    C DeAndre Jordan

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  • #587508
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    ItsVictorOladipo
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    1st Team:

    PG Derrick Rose

    SG Dwyane Wade

    SF Lebron James

    PF Blake Griffin

    C Dwight Howard

     

    2nd Team

    PG Russell Westbrook

    SG Shannon Brown

    SF Andre Iguodala

    PF Serge Ibaka

    C JaVale McGee

     

    3rd Team

    G Nate Robinson

    G JR Smith

    SF Rudy Gay

    PF Josh Smith

    C DeAndre Jordan

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  • #587232
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    iguapops420
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     You’re wrong. Strength has everything to do with athleticism. Athleticsim isn’t just the ability to run and jump. It’s a lot more than that. Strength is actually why you’re able to run or jump higher. You’re blessed with a natural ability, strengthening and conditioning improve those. And this is not a conversation about god given athletic ability, because all three of these guys get in the gym every day to MAXIMIZE their god given ability. Nothing you can say will convince me or more than ikely anyone else that LBJ isn’t the most athletic 3 in the game.

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  • #587510
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    iguapops420
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     You’re wrong. Strength has everything to do with athleticism. Athleticsim isn’t just the ability to run and jump. It’s a lot more than that. Strength is actually why you’re able to run or jump higher. You’re blessed with a natural ability, strengthening and conditioning improve those. And this is not a conversation about god given athletic ability, because all three of these guys get in the gym every day to MAXIMIZE their god given ability. Nothing you can say will convince me or more than ikely anyone else that LBJ isn’t the most athletic 3 in the game.

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  • #587234
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    ilike.panochas
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    Sonny Weems?

    You put a Toronto Raptors on your All-Athletic team, and it’s not Demar DeRozan?

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    • #587240
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      WizardofOz
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      @mess.eee

      Derozan is an overrated athlete. Other than his jumping ability, he’s average at best

      Weems is a better leaper, and is faster, I believe he’s tied for the fastest 3/4 sprint at the Draft Combine ever. He ran a 2.96. He used to be a football player, and I think I saw somewhere that said he runs a 4.4 40. He’s not fast with the ball in his hands though. His handles atre terrible.

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    • #587517
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      @mess.eee

      Derozan is an overrated athlete. Other than his jumping ability, he’s average at best

      Weems is a better leaper, and is faster, I believe he’s tied for the fastest 3/4 sprint at the Draft Combine ever. He ran a 2.96. He used to be a football player, and I think I saw somewhere that said he runs a 4.4 40. He’s not fast with the ball in his hands though. His handles atre terrible.

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  • #587512
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    ilike.panochas
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    Sonny Weems?

    You put a Toronto Raptors on your All-Athletic team, and it’s not Demar DeRozan?

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  • #587236
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    JoeWolf1

    1st team

     PG- Derrick Rose – I think he could be the most athletic player in the league

    SG- Dwyane Wade – Even at 29 he hasn’t lost any athleticism, he’s a specimen

    SF- Lebron James – I’m not buying that Lebron isn’t as athletic as he used to be, his bulk may have resulted in a loss of a little hops, but I’m not going to pretend like he’s not one of the top 5 athletic guys in the league

    PF-Blake Griffin – holy crap,…that’s all I have to say about this guy

    C-Dwight Howard- He’s more athletic that McGee, people forget McGee has a 9’7” standing reach, it’s not a surprise he can do the dunks he can, but I think it’s more because of his length than his leaping.  He is a very fluid athlete and fast, but Howard is stronger and a better leaper.

    2nd team

    PG-Russell Westbrook – D-Rose beat him out, IMO, but not by a whole lot

    SG-Shannon Brown- He isn’t a big name player, but he’s an amazing athlete

    SF- James Johnson – again, not a big name, but a 40+ vert, strong as hell and a freaking ninja to boot.

    PF-Josh Smith – he’s just a tremendous athlete, and a fun guy to watch…as long as he’s not jacking 18 footers

    C-Joakim Noah – people forget how athletic he is, he runs the court just as well as McGee, but is a far better leaper.  He tested a 37” max vert out of college and he hasn’t lost any of that athleticism any only gotten stronger since entering the league.

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  • #587514
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    JoeWolf1

    1st team

     PG- Derrick Rose – I think he could be the most athletic player in the league

    SG- Dwyane Wade – Even at 29 he hasn’t lost any athleticism, he’s a specimen

    SF- Lebron James – I’m not buying that Lebron isn’t as athletic as he used to be, his bulk may have resulted in a loss of a little hops, but I’m not going to pretend like he’s not one of the top 5 athletic guys in the league

    PF-Blake Griffin – holy crap,…that’s all I have to say about this guy

    C-Dwight Howard- He’s more athletic that McGee, people forget McGee has a 9’7” standing reach, it’s not a surprise he can do the dunks he can, but I think it’s more because of his length than his leaping.  He is a very fluid athlete and fast, but Howard is stronger and a better leaper.

    2nd team

    PG-Russell Westbrook – D-Rose beat him out, IMO, but not by a whole lot

    SG-Shannon Brown- He isn’t a big name player, but he’s an amazing athlete

    SF- James Johnson – again, not a big name, but a 40+ vert, strong as hell and a freaking ninja to boot.

    PF-Josh Smith – he’s just a tremendous athlete, and a fun guy to watch…as long as he’s not jacking 18 footers

    C-Joakim Noah – people forget how athletic he is, he runs the court just as well as McGee, but is a far better leaper.  He tested a 37” max vert out of college and he hasn’t lost any of that athleticism any only gotten stronger since entering the league.

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  • #587242
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    kobyz
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    1st team:

    Nate Robinson
    Shannon Brown
    Andre Iguodala
    Blake Griffin
    Dwight Howard

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  • #587519
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    kobyz
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    1st team:

    Nate Robinson
    Shannon Brown
    Andre Iguodala
    Blake Griffin
    Dwight Howard

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  • #587524
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    Tobe Bryant
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    In all HONESTY, Shannon Brown is more athletic than Dwayne Wade. NOT A BETTER PLAYER, but athletically he is a FREAK. I heard he has a 49-inch vertical! Sickening. Wade gets to showcase his abilities more becuz he has better skills, so one would be led to belived that Wade blows Brown out of the water athletically, but Shannon Brown is a BEAST, he gets off the floor so quick and strong. Not to mention his ridiculous hangtime!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoYLxdfc10U

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  • #587246
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    Tobe Bryant
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    In all HONESTY, Shannon Brown is more athletic than Dwayne Wade. NOT A BETTER PLAYER, but athletically he is a FREAK. I heard he has a 49-inch vertical! Sickening. Wade gets to showcase his abilities more becuz he has better skills, so one would be led to belived that Wade blows Brown out of the water athletically, but Shannon Brown is a BEAST, he gets off the floor so quick and strong. Not to mention his ridiculous hangtime!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoYLxdfc10U

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  • #587528
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    BasterdInABasket
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    I agree with Dwight Howards first two teams. Id put Wall and T Allen at the guard spots for the 3rd team though.

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  • #587250
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    BasterdInABasket
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    I agree with Dwight Howards first two teams. Id put Wall and T Allen at the guard spots for the 3rd team though.

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  • #587530
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    Tobe Bryant
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    Shannon Brown is FAST too…but here goes another SICK highlight…

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfsEK2pdpSI&feature=related

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  • #587252
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    Tobe Bryant
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    Shannon Brown is FAST too…but here goes another SICK highlight…

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfsEK2pdpSI&feature=related

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  • #587534
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    Tongue-Out-Like-23
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    In all honesty, even though LeBron has lost some athleticism, he is still more athletic than Rudy Gay and Andre Iguodala.  That just shows how athletic he was in the first place.

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  • #587256
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    Tongue-Out-Like-23
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    In all honesty, even though LeBron has lost some athleticism, he is still more athletic than Rudy Gay and Andre Iguodala.  That just shows how athletic he was in the first place.

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  • #587536
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    andxxx
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     In combination of Dwade’s quickness, speed, leaping ability, and coordination I feel he should be ahead of Shannon Brown

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  • #587258
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    andxxx
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     In combination of Dwade’s quickness, speed, leaping ability, and coordination I feel he should be ahead of Shannon Brown

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  • #587538
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    providencefriars1
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    Tony Allen would have been up there except for his huge knee injury which drained alot of his athleticism so I wouldnt put him on this list.

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  • #587260
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    providencefriars1
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    Tony Allen would have been up there except for his huge knee injury which drained alot of his athleticism so I wouldnt put him on this list.

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  • #587540
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    GlenTaylorSucks
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    I know he didn’t play in the NBA last season, and the dude’s only 5’5", but I read somewhere that he can bench over 300 lbs. That’s literally over twice his weight. Pound-for-pound, he’s probably the strongest guy in the NBA.

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  • #587262
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    GlenTaylorSucks
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    I know he didn’t play in the NBA last season, and the dude’s only 5’5", but I read somewhere that he can bench over 300 lbs. That’s literally over twice his weight. Pound-for-pound, he’s probably the strongest guy in the NBA.

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  • #587264
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    JoeWolf1

    Earl Boykins is 35, he may be strong but he doesn’t have much lift anymore or is he as fast as he used to be.  I absolutely think strength is a part of athleticism, but only a part.  Going by strength alone Luke Harangody, is one of the strongest guys in the NBA, but he’s not on anyone’s most athletic list.

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  • #587542
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    JoeWolf1

    Earl Boykins is 35, he may be strong but he doesn’t have much lift anymore or is he as fast as he used to be.  I absolutely think strength is a part of athleticism, but only a part.  Going by strength alone Luke Harangody, is one of the strongest guys in the NBA, but he’s not on anyone’s most athletic list.

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  • #587268
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    ky30
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    PG-Derrick Rose

    SG-Dwyane Wade

    SF-Lebron James -Most athletic player of all-time

    PF-Blake Griffin

    C-Dwight Howard

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  • #587546
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    ky30
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    PG-Derrick Rose

    SG-Dwyane Wade

    SF-Lebron James -Most athletic player of all-time

    PF-Blake Griffin

    C-Dwight Howard

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  • #587274
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    iguapops420
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     I’ve watched almost every game of Shannons since entering the L. His vert isn’t up around 49 he just has EXTREMELY long arms. He’s fast as hell, but he isn’t the quickest guy out there. Laterally he is actualy fairly slow even for a 2.(Or just too lazy to try) and is actually far shorter than his listed 6’4. He’s closer to 6’2 as even commented on by Kobe once. Had he actually been taller I would have counted him, but instead he’s the size of a pg and his speed is very diminished with the ball in his hands(which btw are close to the size of Rondo’s).

    Agreed though, he is an athletic beast, just doesn’t have the top to bottom athleticism for me to give him a top 3 team listing. Definitely honorable mention though.

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  • #587552
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    iguapops420
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     I’ve watched almost every game of Shannons since entering the L. His vert isn’t up around 49 he just has EXTREMELY long arms. He’s fast as hell, but he isn’t the quickest guy out there. Laterally he is actualy fairly slow even for a 2.(Or just too lazy to try) and is actually far shorter than his listed 6’4. He’s closer to 6’2 as even commented on by Kobe once. Had he actually been taller I would have counted him, but instead he’s the size of a pg and his speed is very diminished with the ball in his hands(which btw are close to the size of Rondo’s).

    Agreed though, he is an athletic beast, just doesn’t have the top to bottom athleticism for me to give him a top 3 team listing. Definitely honorable mention though.

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  • #587276
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    Bill Walton’s Knees
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    PG- D Rose

    SG- James White

    SF- LeBron

    PF- Blake Griffin

    C- Dwight Howard 

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  • #587554
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    Bill Walton’s Knees
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    PG- D Rose

    SG- James White

    SF- LeBron

    PF- Blake Griffin

    C- Dwight Howard 

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  • #587278
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    GlenTaylorSucks
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    Good point, JoeWolf. I should have known that, lol.

    My question to everyone is, who is the most athletic player of all time? I think I’ve gotta say it’s either LeBron or pre-weight-gain Shaq (i.e. back on the Magic). He used to have the quickness/agility of a guard on a 7’2”, 300+ lb frame. Shaq was an absolute monster.

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  • #587556
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    GlenTaylorSucks
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    Good point, JoeWolf. I should have known that, lol.

    My question to everyone is, who is the most athletic player of all time? I think I’ve gotta say it’s either LeBron or pre-weight-gain Shaq (i.e. back on the Magic). He used to have the quickness/agility of a guard on a 7’2”, 300+ lb frame. Shaq was an absolute monster.

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  • #587280
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    mikeyvthedon
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    1st Team

    PG Derrick Rose

    SG Dwyane Wade

    SF LeBron James

    PF Blake Griffin

    C Dwight Howard

     

    2nd Team

    PG John Wall

    SG Monta Ellis (If someone tells me about his combine numbers being $hit, they obviously put way to much emphasis on them being a display of athleticism)

    SF Rudy Gay

    PF Josh Smith

    C JaVale McGee

     

    3rd Team

    PG Russell Westbrook

    SG DeMar DeRozan

    SF Andre Iguodala

    PF Serge Ibaka

    C Joakim Noah

     

    Honorable Mention

    PG Nate Robinson (Pound for pound, probably the best)

    SG Eric Gordon

    SF Gerald Wallace

    PF Amare Stoudemire (Still think he is a freak athlete, even with the injuries)

    C DeAndre Jordan

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  • #587558
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    mikeyvthedon
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    1st Team

    PG Derrick Rose

    SG Dwyane Wade

    SF LeBron James

    PF Blake Griffin

    C Dwight Howard

     

    2nd Team

    PG John Wall

    SG Monta Ellis (If someone tells me about his combine numbers being $hit, they obviously put way to much emphasis on them being a display of athleticism)

    SF Rudy Gay

    PF Josh Smith

    C JaVale McGee

     

    3rd Team

    PG Russell Westbrook

    SG DeMar DeRozan

    SF Andre Iguodala

    PF Serge Ibaka

    C Joakim Noah

     

    Honorable Mention

    PG Nate Robinson (Pound for pound, probably the best)

    SG Eric Gordon

    SF Gerald Wallace

    PF Amare Stoudemire (Still think he is a freak athlete, even with the injuries)

    C DeAndre Jordan

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  • #587284
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    JoeWolf1

    @FireKahn

     Wilt Chamberlain, it was before verticals and wingspans were measured so there is a bit of legend involved, but what is known is that he was a collegiate level high jumper, jumping 6’6” which isn’t that impressive by today’s standards, but back in Wilt’s day they would scissor kick it…and scissor kicking 6’6” is freaking amazing.  He was the Big 7 champion in high jump in 57’…The world record was only 6” higher than Wilt’s jump in college.

    Wilt was an athletic freak in so many ways, I just know a lot about the high jump because I used to do it, but with today’s technique, Wilt would easily be over a 7′ high jumper.

     

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  • #587562
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    JoeWolf1

    @FireKahn

     Wilt Chamberlain, it was before verticals and wingspans were measured so there is a bit of legend involved, but what is known is that he was a collegiate level high jumper, jumping 6’6” which isn’t that impressive by today’s standards, but back in Wilt’s day they would scissor kick it…and scissor kicking 6’6” is freaking amazing.  He was the Big 7 champion in high jump in 57’…The world record was only 6” higher than Wilt’s jump in college.

    Wilt was an athletic freak in so many ways, I just know a lot about the high jump because I used to do it, but with today’s technique, Wilt would easily be over a 7′ high jumper.

     

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  • #587310
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    WinterSoldier
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    PG: Josh selby

    SG:Iman Shupert

    SF:Lebron James

    PF:Derrick Favors

    C:Dwight Howard

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  • #587588
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    WinterSoldier
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    PG: Josh selby

    SG:Iman Shupert

    SF:Lebron James

    PF:Derrick Favors

    C:Dwight Howard

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  • #587326
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    Memphis Madness
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    1st team:

    PG: Derrick Rose

    SG: Demarr DeRozan

    SF: Rudy Gay

    PF: Blake Griffin

    C.  Javale McGhee

    2nd team

    PG: Russell Westbrook

    SG:  Shannon Brown

    SF:   LeBron James

    PF:  Serge Ibaka

    C:    Dwight Howard

    3rd Team

    PG: John Wall

    SG:  Dwayne Wade

    SF:  Andre Iguodala

    PF:  Darrell Arthur

    C:    Tyrus Thomas

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  • #587604
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    Memphis Madness
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    1st team:

    PG: Derrick Rose

    SG: Demarr DeRozan

    SF: Rudy Gay

    PF: Blake Griffin

    C.  Javale McGhee

    2nd team

    PG: Russell Westbrook

    SG:  Shannon Brown

    SF:   LeBron James

    PF:  Serge Ibaka

    C:    Dwight Howard

    3rd Team

    PG: John Wall

    SG:  Dwayne Wade

    SF:  Andre Iguodala

    PF:  Darrell Arthur

    C:    Tyrus Thomas

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  • #587332
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    JaeEvolution
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     You’re delusional if you think Lebron has lost THAT much athleticism. At one point or another in a leaper’s NBA career they notice they have to slow their roll. The NBA is a long grind and going 100% jumping to the rim everytime for 15 years is a recipe for disaster. Maybe Lebron got the hint and started to slow down, but by no means is he THAT much less athletically dominant.

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    JaeEvolution
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     You’re delusional if you think Lebron has lost THAT much athleticism. At one point or another in a leaper’s NBA career they notice they have to slow their roll. The NBA is a long grind and going 100% jumping to the rim everytime for 15 years is a recipe for disaster. Maybe Lebron got the hint and started to slow down, but by no means is he THAT much less athletically dominant.

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  • #587334
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    Toronto16
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    As much as it sounds crazy to say, Sonny Weems is more athletic than DeMar DeRozan.

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    • #587337
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      WizardofOz
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      ^^THIS

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    • #587616
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      WizardofOz
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      ^^THIS

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  • #587612
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    As much as it sounds crazy to say, Sonny Weems is more athletic than DeMar DeRozan.

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  • #587363
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    ItsVictorOladipo
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    Most athletic NBA player of all time? Hard to choose between Wilt, a young Lebron, MJ, Darrell Griffith and David Thompson. I’ll probably give it to MJ by a notch over the others

     

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  • #587643
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    ItsVictorOladipo
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    Most athletic NBA player of all time? Hard to choose between Wilt, a young Lebron, MJ, Darrell Griffith and David Thompson. I’ll probably give it to MJ by a notch over the others

     

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  • #587368
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    Is this the kind of crap NBAdraftnet.com has been reduced to?  I’d rather listen to a 350 lb guy in the next stall over trying to crap outhis Big Mac than read the poor atempts at creating interesting dialogue that has been happening here.

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  • #587649
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    PurpleMonkeyDishwasher
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    Is this the kind of crap NBAdraftnet.com has been reduced to?  I’d rather listen to a 350 lb guy in the next stall over trying to crap outhis Big Mac than read the poor atempts at creating interesting dialogue that has been happening here.

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  • #587372
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    ItsVictorOladipo
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    Jordan being ridiculous:

     

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  • #587653
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    ItsVictorOladipo
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    Jordan being ridiculous:

     

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  • #587388
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    I would put Shawn Kemp amongst the discussions.  6’10 240lbs and has as much athletecism as anyone that has ever played.

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  • #587669
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    ilike.panochas
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    I would put Shawn Kemp amongst the discussions.  6’10 240lbs and has as much athletecism as anyone that has ever played.

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    Demar Derozan overrated? are yyou serious we aren’t talking about combine #s as much as ingame, Derozan has a huge vertical, albeit average arms for a 6’7 SG, if you think Demar is overrated, go watch  the past two fking dunk contests

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  • #587671
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    Demar Derozan overrated? are yyou serious we aren’t talking about combine #s as much as ingame, Derozan has a huge vertical, albeit average arms for a 6’7 SG, if you think Demar is overrated, go watch  the past two fking dunk contests

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  • #587479
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    Grandmama
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    PG: Derrick Rose

    SG: Demar Derozan

    SF: Lebron James

    PF: Blake Griffin

    C: Dwight Howard

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  • #587760
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    PG: Derrick Rose

    SG: Demar Derozan

    SF: Lebron James

    PF: Blake Griffin

    C: Dwight Howard

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  • #587549
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    @JoeWolf1 I actually think McGee has imrpoved his athleticism since getiing into the league. Added strength and better conditioning is the reason for this. And for those saying McGee isn’t more athletic than Dwight, can Dwight do this? (Skip to 1:18)

    Dwight can’t run the floor like that.

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  • #587830
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    @JoeWolf1 I actually think McGee has imrpoved his athleticism since getiing into the league. Added strength and better conditioning is the reason for this. And for those saying McGee isn’t more athletic than Dwight, can Dwight do this? (Skip to 1:18)

    Dwight can’t run the floor like that.

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  • #587559
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     JaVale McGee is fast and great at running the floor, he and Joakim Noah are the two best in the league IMO, but Dwight is so much more explosive.  All you have to do is compare their dunk contests, Dwight gets just as high, despite being shorter, takes off faster and throws down harder.  I think that is a prime example of Dwights superior leaping, explosive power and strength.  

    JaVale may be able to beat Dwight Howard in a foot race, but I feel Dwight is the better leaper, the stronger player and the more explosive of the two.  

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  • #587840
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     JaVale McGee is fast and great at running the floor, he and Joakim Noah are the two best in the league IMO, but Dwight is so much more explosive.  All you have to do is compare their dunk contests, Dwight gets just as high, despite being shorter, takes off faster and throws down harder.  I think that is a prime example of Dwights superior leaping, explosive power and strength.  

    JaVale may be able to beat Dwight Howard in a foot race, but I feel Dwight is the better leaper, the stronger player and the more explosive of the two.  

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    I am not so sure he is faster than Dwight, either. I think athleticism combines a number of things, it is more than just running and jumping, strength is also a component, which I think is what separates Dwight from any Center athletically. I am not saying that just because you are strong, that makes you athletic, it clearly is not always the case. But, being able to overpower people while still being able to out run and out jump a great majority of them is incredibly impressive, which is why Dwight Howard is the most athletic Center, bar none. Ditto for Derrick Rose, Dwyane Wade, LeBron James and Blake Griffin, at least in my opinion.

    Oh, and WizardofOz, yes, I do:

     

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  • #587864
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    I am not so sure he is faster than Dwight, either. I think athleticism combines a number of things, it is more than just running and jumping, strength is also a component, which I think is what separates Dwight from any Center athletically. I am not saying that just because you are strong, that makes you athletic, it clearly is not always the case. But, being able to overpower people while still being able to out run and out jump a great majority of them is incredibly impressive, which is why Dwight Howard is the most athletic Center, bar none. Ditto for Derrick Rose, Dwyane Wade, LeBron James and Blake Griffin, at least in my opinion.

    Oh, and WizardofOz, yes, I do:

     

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  • #587587
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     The thing about Dwight and other elite athletes like Rose and Blake Griffin is that they explode off the floor.  It seems like they go from standing on the floor to a foot above the rim in a heartbeat.  JaVale doesn’t have that same explosive power IMO, he’s got a super long stride and is on of the longest players in the league.  He’s a very fluid athlete, but I’ve never seen him explode off the floor like Dwight.  He doesn’t have the lateral quickness either. When I think of a pure athlete, I think of a guy who is explosive, strong, agile and with great leaping ability and fluidity.  Dwight Howard has all of those things at an elite level and JaVale, again IMO, has  incredible length paired with those traits, but at a lower level than Dwight, but his length gives him amazing reach on the court and the impression he’s changing directions and jumping higher than he really is.

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     The thing about Dwight and other elite athletes like Rose and Blake Griffin is that they explode off the floor.  It seems like they go from standing on the floor to a foot above the rim in a heartbeat.  JaVale doesn’t have that same explosive power IMO, he’s got a super long stride and is on of the longest players in the league.  He’s a very fluid athlete, but I’ve never seen him explode off the floor like Dwight.  He doesn’t have the lateral quickness either. When I think of a pure athlete, I think of a guy who is explosive, strong, agile and with great leaping ability and fluidity.  Dwight Howard has all of those things at an elite level and JaVale, again IMO, has  incredible length paired with those traits, but at a lower level than Dwight, but his length gives him amazing reach on the court and the impression he’s changing directions and jumping higher than he really is.

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    I like mikeyvthedon‘s list. 
     
    Is DeRozan really more athletic overall than Eric Gordon though? 
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    IndianaBasketball
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    I like mikeyvthedon‘s list. 
     
    Is DeRozan really more athletic overall than Eric Gordon though? 
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    IndianaBasketball
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    I like mikeyvthedon‘s list. 
     
    Is DeRozan really more athletic overall than Eric Gordon though? 
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     But I kind of think he is. Also, even Sonny Weems knows that DeMar DeRozan is a better athlete than he is. He really uses it well, I find that he plays pretty aggressively and the guy has ridiculous ups. If you went by combine scores, Gordon’s are definitely higher, but I think that DeRozan might indeed be the better athlete at this point. It was a tough decision, and maybe Gordon wins out, but I see DeRozan as one of the most consistent high leapers in the game at this point, even more so than EG.

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     But I kind of think he is. Also, even Sonny Weems knows that DeMar DeRozan is a better athlete than he is. He really uses it well, I find that he plays pretty aggressively and the guy has ridiculous ups. If you went by combine scores, Gordon’s are definitely higher, but I think that DeRozan might indeed be the better athlete at this point. It was a tough decision, and maybe Gordon wins out, but I see DeRozan as one of the most consistent high leapers in the game at this point, even more so than EG.

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     But I kind of think he is. Also, even Sonny Weems knows that DeMar DeRozan is a better athlete than he is. He really uses it well, I find that he plays pretty aggressively and the guy has ridiculous ups. If you went by combine scores, Gordon’s are definitely higher, but I think that DeRozan might indeed be the better athlete at this point. It was a tough decision, and maybe Gordon wins out, but I see DeRozan as one of the most consistent high leapers in the game at this point, even more so than EG.

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