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  • #24438
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    I look at the upcoming draft, just to see who the Cavs could grab, and i see redflags everywhere.

    Perry Jones, 6’11 Forward, freakish on paper, but a different story on the court, he doesn’t have a true position, didn’t dominate at Highschool level either and hasn’t really taken College basketball by strom yet.

    Harrison Barnes, came in as the #1 Highschool prospect, i heard and read a lot of good things about him, but he’s struggled, and people are already unfairly, calling him the next Marvin Williams. Lacks that "eye of the tiger" or "cold blood" to become a star, but, guys like Duncan, Durant and Howard who are legitimate nice guys have been/are premiere players, so there could be hope.

    Jared Sullinger, undersized and an average athlete, he’s got talent, a lot of it but his potential is limited due to his physical limitations, the teams that are in his pick range already have solid PF’s, do they create a log jam? Or do they move their existing PF?

    Terrence Jones, i really like him, and i hope the Cavs get him, needs work on his shot mechanics just a litte, needs to get the ball a bit higher in his shooting posture, he’s got a good build for an NBA Small Forward, 6’8" and around 245lbs, he’s been compared to Lamer Odom and i see Odom in him.

    Donatas Motiejunas, overhyped, i put Vesely over him, he has holes, first, he’s 220-225 lbs, not quick enough to be a Small Forward, and not strong enough to be a Power Forward, at the moment, he’s stuck in between. Second, his defense is below poor, i doubt he’ll be a starter as a rookie, if he is a starter, top bigmen would tear him to shreds, considering he’s been touted as a top 5 pick, i’d expect more then just upside. His attitude is really poor, that could be due to his age and could be fixed over time.

    Derrick Williams, i think he’s really good, but i wouldn’t say he’s a top 6 pick, undersized again but his saving grace is that he’s an above average athlete.

    Brandon Knight, more of an undersized Shooting Guard, but would play really well with a guy like Tyreke Evans, would be a great sixth man for a playoff team.

    With possible absences from Ivring and Kanter, makes this draft look even worse.

    When i look at the draft like this, the top prospects don’t really seem that brilliant, or i could just be taking these things a bit too seriously and they’ll probably be fine in the NBA, but these signs are a bit unsettling, epecially from guys like Barnes and Perry Jones.

    P.S nbadraft.net, please move Jonas Valanciunas up the mock draft board.

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  • #466808
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    i think the ideal pick for my team, the kings, would be brandon knight. its strange though because we are looking like we’ll be in the 1-4 range for our upcoming pick and b knight isnt a 1-4 pick at this point. im not sure what we should do… perhaps trade the pick and some players for a star guy or something. knight would be the ideal pick in my opinion though

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    i think the ideal pick for my team, the kings, would be brandon knight. its strange though because we are looking like we’ll be in the 1-4 range for our upcoming pick and b knight isnt a 1-4 pick at this point. im not sure what we should do… perhaps trade the pick and some players for a star guy or something. knight would be the ideal pick in my opinion though

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  • #466828
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    the thing is this draft is so weak you won’t get that much by trading a top 5 pick than normally cause you can get the same player at 12 than you could at say 5.

    If Irving and Kanter don’t enter this draft could be horrible IMO.

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  • #466849
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    the thing is this draft is so weak you won’t get that much by trading a top 5 pick than normally cause you can get the same player at 12 than you could at say 5.

    If Irving and Kanter don’t enter this draft could be horrible IMO.

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  • #466844
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    the lake show

    Sorry but potential is not limited by physical abilities. His potential is high because he is skilled and young. Boozer,Zach Randolph and Kevin Love were also said to have Physical limitations all of them have AllStar talent. Anthony Randolph,Chris Wilcox, Stromile Swift all were said to have great physcial ability and potential yet none are career starters. Time to redefine potential to many fans. Also its not a coincidence that the Superstars are at there best once there good given abilities(jumping high) starts to fade.

     

    This Draft may not have as clear cut Superstar but its far from horrible. I remember the same thing being said about last years draft and that has seemed to turn out pretty well

     

    And lets try not to forget these kids are FRESHMEN they have even begun to touch on what there potential will be. All are a good 6 years from entering there prime and havne’t even started pro training

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  • #466865
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    the lake show

    Sorry but potential is not limited by physical abilities. His potential is high because he is skilled and young. Boozer,Zach Randolph and Kevin Love were also said to have Physical limitations all of them have AllStar talent. Anthony Randolph,Chris Wilcox, Stromile Swift all were said to have great physcial ability and potential yet none are career starters. Time to redefine potential to many fans. Also its not a coincidence that the Superstars are at there best once there good given abilities(jumping high) starts to fade.

     

    This Draft may not have as clear cut Superstar but its far from horrible. I remember the same thing being said about last years draft and that has seemed to turn out pretty well

     

    And lets try not to forget these kids are FRESHMEN they have even begun to touch on what there potential will be. All are a good 6 years from entering there prime and havne’t even started pro training

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  • #466846
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    the lake show

    Basically its more of a draft of what the players are gonna do a couple of years from now not what they will do in year one of getting drafted

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  • #466867
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    the lake show

    Basically its more of a draft of what the players are gonna do a couple of years from now not what they will do in year one of getting drafted

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  • #468306
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    @theLakeshow

    The guys you mentioned are all horrible defenders due to their height, just imagine if they were good athletes and were prototypical height. Sullinger would have a lot more potential if he was 6’10" sounds silly but from an evaluating point of view the inches matter, his current height is considered a weakness or a flaw, it’s the evaluator job to point things like that out.

    The guys that you said that were great athletes, were very raw, they lacked polish or skill and they’ve never had the frame Sullinger has, Anthony Randolph is around 220lbs. So i’m not really sure what you’re getting at there.

    But i’d say Sullinger is a safe 15 and 10 player in his career and reaching 20 and 10 at some stage and is one of the players (along with Terrence Jones) that i’m not really worried about. I’m more concerned about Perry Jones, Barnes and Motiejunas.

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  • #468323
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    @theLakeshow

    The guys you mentioned are all horrible defenders due to their height, just imagine if they were good athletes and were prototypical height. Sullinger would have a lot more potential if he was 6’10" sounds silly but from an evaluating point of view the inches matter, his current height is considered a weakness or a flaw, it’s the evaluator job to point things like that out.

    The guys that you said that were great athletes, were very raw, they lacked polish or skill and they’ve never had the frame Sullinger has, Anthony Randolph is around 220lbs. So i’m not really sure what you’re getting at there.

    But i’d say Sullinger is a safe 15 and 10 player in his career and reaching 20 and 10 at some stage and is one of the players (along with Terrence Jones) that i’m not really worried about. I’m more concerned about Perry Jones, Barnes and Motiejunas.

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