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Al Horford, ceiling?

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Al Horford, ceiling?

Has Al Horford reached his ceiling yet?

Last season he quietly put up 17/10, his first double double season, and almost nobody noticed or talked about it. Is Al Horford pretty much at his peak or do you see him getting better (which he has been since his rookie season, minus the year he torn his pec)?


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I think he'll put up better

I think he'll put up better numbers this yr now that he's finally separated from Josh Smith, but even if this is his peak its a really good one. He's one of the best bigs in the league because of his all-around ability. He really doesn't have many weaknesses at all. He's efficient, smart, you can PnR or PnP with him, has nice touch on hooks, can hit from mid-range, is one of the best passing bigs in the game, has solid ball skills for a big and changes ends well. Defensively he can defend the post, defend face up bigs and he's an excellent help defender. No, he's not a go to scorer and he inexplicably doesn't get to the line much, but he can pretty much do everything else well. I'd take him on my team any day, real or fantasy. There really aren't that many bigs better than him. I'm definitely targeting him on fantasy draft day. He had a really good season last yr and I expect an uptick. There really was no good reason why Josh Smith should've been getting more shots than Horford, other than Smith having no brain and not understanding his own limitations.

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He'll be in the top 5 PF's

He'll be in the top 5 PF's but that's it. He's not an elite player. Top 5 power forwards aren't strong these days. Love, Aldridge then who?

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since he's NOT a PF, tough to be Top 5

He's a center. Josh Smith was Atlanta's PF, now Paul Milsap is. As far as top PF's being a weak position; Love, Aldridge, Monroe, Ibaka, Randolph, Duncan, Lee, P.Gasol, Griffin, Nowitzki, Favors, West. I wouldn't call it weak.

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Ummm

Umm why is Derrick favors mentioned in that list?

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I think his game is pretty

I think his game is pretty mature, he's pretty well rounded and I don't see much room for improvements or upside, but he's at a very good level and I think he will be able to keep it for quite a few season. He isn't probably elite, but it's a player I'd really like to see in a contender, he does so many things that go unnoticed, but he's a really smart player, useful on both ends of the court and he's a team player. He doesn't have an area in his game that could be exposed and targeted by other teams and can contribute in many ways. I think he'd make a very good third option in a winning team (say the Spurs), but unfortunately it's probably too difficult to trade for him and he won't be free agent earlier than 3 years. Pretty much the problem with today NBA, too many teams, the talent is diluted and there are some very good players that never get the chance to play for a decent team.

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Hes been playing out of

Hes been playing out of postion and still putting up solid numbers. I think having paul milsap is a better fit for him as well, paul can guard centers and really help on reb load. I think al is a great player and atlanta knows that

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I think he has the ability to

I think he has the ability to put up 30 and 10 this next year, but he'll taper off the following year with a 6 and 6 season.

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I think he has the ability to

I think he has the ability to put up 30 and 10 this next year, but he'll taper off the following year with a 6 and 6 season.

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17 and 10 is pretty dang good. 17 points a game is the new 20. Guys aren't scoring as much due to defensive schemes and different offenses, so those are pretty elite stats. Stat wise then I think he can go for 20 points and 12 boards which would be very, very impressive and should give him an all-star appearance next year, if that was based totally on merit.

He has been an all-star before so being an all-star is a pretty good ceiling. BUT there is a difference between being an all-star and a SUPER STAR. I don't ever see Al Horford being a superstar. I think he will continue to fly under the radar since he is playing for the Hawks. It's unfortunate, but it's true. Christian Laettner was another guy who won back to back titles in college and was an all-star in Atlanta but he was never viewed as an ELITE NBA player. Obviously Josh Smith put up monster numbers yet never made the all-star team. So I guess being on Atlanta hurt him. Kevin Willis put up great stats on Atlanta but was never viewed as a big franchise guy. Same for Shareef Abdur-Raheem (on the Hawks briefly but before that the center piece of the Vancouver Grizzlies).

Horford's stats ceiling would probably be 20 and 12 which is pretty dang elite. To get more RECOGNITION though, Al Horford needs to WIN. Especially in the playoffs. Zach Randolph put up great stats his whole career, yet flew under the radar a bit. However, his monster performance in the 2011 playoffs turned Z Bo into a legit 'star'. Z Bo is still looked at as a very good low post scorer and rebounder based on that and based on the Grizzlies being a legit contender these past few years.

So, if Al Horford continues to play well, the Hawks win, and get some momentum in the playoffs then I think his star will rise.

Failing that, then I think Al Horford would need to get traded to a higher profile contender in order to get more 'buzz'.

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Z-Bo is a better offensive

Z-Bo is a better offensive player, can create his own shot, he's probably the best low post player in the league right now with Duncan. So he's best suited as a first offensive option. Horford doesn't have much of a back to the basket game, he's a very good pick and roll player because he can both finish in the paint and shoot the mid range jumper, but he can't create his own shot, so I don't see him being a first option for one of the top teams in the league. As I've already said, I'd like to see him playing with a go to guy and another star, in that situation he can be really great, because of his jumper, his IQ, his passing and handling skills, his rebounds, his help and low post defense etc etc.

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