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Against the grain DMV edition

Why is it The University of Maryland cannot land any high profile in-state prospects?

Does anyone agree that Gary Williams need a better recruiting pitch after letting all these prospects pass him by?

'99

Keith Bogans

Joseph Forte

DerMarr Johnson

'00

Mike Sweetney

'02

Marshall Strickland

'03

Carmelo Anthony

Linas Kleiza

Patrick Ewing Jr.

Josh Boone

'04

Rudy Gay

Roy Hibbert

Jeff Green

Sam Young

'05

Dante Cunningham

'06

Kevin Durant

Ty Lawson

DaJuan Summers

'07

Michael Beasley

Donte Green

Nolan Smith

Austin Freeman

Chris Wright

'08

Kris Joseph

Henry Sims

'09

Mouphtauo Yarou

Dante Taylor

'10

Josh Selby

Will Barton

Josh Hairston

'11

Mikael Hopkins

Tyrone Johnson


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I often wonder the same thing

I often wonder the same thing about DePaul. The school is in the heart of the city, is in the Big East so the exposure is there, and it is kind of a storied program. Chicago is never at a loss for talent yet no one ever commits.

Illinois has missed out on a ton of talent as well. Rose, Wade, Iggy, Scheyer, Collins, Turner, Pullen, etc.

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i wonder why depaul never

i wonder why depaul never gets recruits....1-16 in the big east this year

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They suck because no one

They suck because no one wants to go there. I remember when Q-Rich, Bobby Simmons and Lance Williams all decided to go there. They made them a top 25 team for a couple of years but once Q went pro, no one followed.

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If you lived here you would

If you lived here you would understand why they decide to leave home....the DMV is one huge distraction.....atleast this is one of the major reasons

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Can't be the case if some of

Can't be the case if some of them choose Georgetown over Maryland.

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I'm at Alabma and we never

I'm at Alabma and we never landed some of our big prospects... We couldn't even get DJ and he lived here growing up as an Alabama fan all his life. We lost Stanley Robinson to UCONN, and most recently, D. Cousins and Eric Bledsoe.

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There's even some more

There's even some more players that you missed. Gary just can't recruit. Maryland definitely has the resources to, but Gary is just a lazy recruiter. He hate AAU and what it's doing to kids, and while other coaches use it to their advantage, he does the exact opposite. There's this kid that Maryland is recruiting right now named Greg Whittington, and his coach said that Gary hasn't even given the kid a single phone call. He says that it's "just not his style." He just sends his assistants out to recruit for him. Now that's just stubborn.

He's a great on-the-court coach and does a good job molding under-the-radar recruits into legit players, but you can't always do that, and recruiting is a part of coaching. Since he doesn't recruit well, I just can't say he's a great coach. I'm now a classified Gary hater. He recruits the occasional 4-star recruit, but we need to be trying to land 4 & 5-star recruits consistently. I used to love him, but I've jumped off his bandwagon. If he doesn't start giving an effort in recruiting, then we're going to be stuck "on the bubble" every year. If the recruiting woes continue, I'mma start calling for his head.

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I had liked Gary when he

I had liked Gary when he snatched up 757 local product John Gilchrist.

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I don't see why he hates AAU

I don't see why he hates AAU ball at all. For one it helps college recruiters find the under the radar guys who will climb up the rankings. Lance was a 5-Star prospect, I wonder why Gary stopped recruiting him if Lance wanted to be there. Like you said Maryland will always be a on the bubble team as long as Gary does not recruit those 5-Star players or get any high profile in-state prospects. I'm aware that I missed quite a few but, if you look at the notables it does not look good at all, that he let all that talent leave Maryland.

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OK heres the scoop one more

OK heres the scoop one more time. First, Gary doesn't suck up to the AAU Coach's nor does he suck up to some of the HS coachs that like to be sucked up to. Two, In the past he wouldnt go out and recruit the players he would sent his assistants( like they used to do back in the day) and that turned alot of recruits off and made them think he didn't think they were important enough to go see them his self. Three, alot fo the recruits get lil things or there family gets little things ( jobs at his camps or at the school etc) and he wont budge when it comes to that. And last, there are some big time recruits that he just wont go hard after because he likes recruits that work hard most of the time and that will fit into his flex offense. One more thing, he Doesn't seem to understand that you have to venture into the gray areas of recruiting in order to get some of the top players and he is so stuck in some of his ways that he wont do that. These days its not about what you can just do for the kid , its about what you can do for the kid and what can you do for his family.

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I agrre but somthing has to

I agrre but somthing has to ghive with Gary.......Being stuck in his ways is not going to cut it, that's what keeping him away from Final Four action. I'm quite sure plenty of hometown guys wouldn't mind playing for him "IF" he recruited them.

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He has started changing the

He has started changing the past year and a half and it has helped which is why he has gotten Stogin and the kid from Bmore that is a top 30 player, and why he was in the running for Tobias harris and Maryland is on the list of a couple of big time recruits next year. It wont be a over night thing because you have to catch these kids when they are Freshmen/Soph

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He should have tried to lock

He should have tried to lock Quinn Cook up this year even though I don't see nothing that special about him. I would have loved to see him get Selby ala Steve Francis.

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Selby( lot of dark grey area

Selby( lot of dark grey area in order to get him plus Gary has bad relationship's with a couple of HS coach's in the Maryland/D.C area because he didn't kiss there AZZ or " hook them up" in the past)

I Think Quinn has had his heart set on Duke for a minute. another thing i forgot to add is alot of parents want there kids to get out of the area because its so bad( thats why i went to play ball out of state and that why many of the top players leave) Thats a major reason i forgot to add as to why alot of the top players in the state don't go to G'Town or MD. ( Who ever lives/grew up in the area knows what im talking about. Especially in Bmore,D.C, and my home base P.G county)

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"I don't want to sound

"I don't want to sound redundant"-Charles Barkley

That can't be the case if John Thompson III is getting in-state prospects.

The biggest Maryland disappointment has to be Rudy Gay. They booed the sh*t out of him in the Jordan Classic.

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I know Lance was an out of

I know Lance was an out of state prospect & a headache Gary was not willing to take on, but he would have been his biggest 5-Star recruit since..........???????????? Can't think of one SMH

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He's getting instate recruits

He's getting instate recruits and so is Gary if we are talking top 30 guys. And getting one top player doesn't mean the team will be very good. Gary as recruited non top recruits but he stays getting in the tournament and even has 2 final fours and a national title to show for it. It would be nice for him to get the top players but its not something he needs to be successful since he gets the most out of the recruits that he does get. Maryland used to get the top players in the nation back in the day and yet they had zero titles to show for it

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I believe he would have been

I believe he would have been Final Four bound with at least 1 or 2 players every other year from the list I posted.

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I can see that because he is

I can see that because he is one of the best Coach's out there ( only coach to win a title with no McDonalds All-American's) but i'm realistic. Kentucky is gonna get at least 4 AllAmercians every year and rightfully so. Duke is gonna get Three, UNC is gonna get two. Thats the first and Second team All Americans right there.

Another thing about G'Town is most of the Familys of the DMV area that have good Kids are Black and would love for there kids to play for a Black Coach and John Uses that every time he goes into a recruits home( used it when he tried to rectuit my nephew)

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"Another thing about G'Town

"Another thing about G'Town is most of the Familys of the DMV area that have good Kids are Black and would love for there kids to play for a Black Coach and John Uses that every time he goes into a recruits home( used it when he tried to rectuit my nephew)"

Does not surprise me 1 bit.

Still Gary should be able to lock at least 1 Mickey D's prospect every year or 2 since Maryland produces a lot of them via Oak Hill Academy.

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I do know Selby wanted to get

I do know Selby wanted to get out of the state so thats one down. And its almost a no win sistuation to recruit against Coach K so thats two down ( Quinn Cook) Then theres the fact that recruits just don't wanna stay home anymore

Ty Lawson

Durant

B-Easy

Reynolds

etc. They all wanna leave

And the players he has gotten, Gravis Vasquez was better then a couple McDonalds All Americans

And i actually changed my mind because one AllAmerican isn't gonna get you to the finals four. How many of Gary's players have turned out to be better then the AllAmericans ranked ahead of them. And if they are top players Chances are they will be one and done

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If he was not stuck in his

If he was not stuck in his ways he probably would be able to reload every year although they would be 1 & Done. I would gamble on those prospects as long as it means I'm almost a lock for the Final Four just about every year.

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He does recruit those

He does recruit those prospects. Its not like he just decides not too. He cruited all the guys you listed they just decided to go somewhere else

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