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Question.....

Are there any old heads in this forum debate? By old heads I mean anybody who was old enough to watch and UNDERSTAND basketball in the early to mid 80s. (youtube video and ESPN classic does not count) If so I am curious to know how you stand on this Howard debate. Is he one of the most dominant big men in the NBA period (like the stats say) or is he a product of the new Millennia where dominant big men are few and far between in the NBA nowadays.

In my opinion I say the latter.....but I still think he is a beast....and when or IF he ever becomes consistent enough on the offensive end to where his teammates will actually give him the ball more than 10 TIMES IN A PLAYOFF GAME then I dont think there will be any debate then.

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Possibly the most overrated stat ever. What can Howard do at the end of the game? Exactly, thanks for trying. He's a modern Bill Russell, except this league can overcome a great shot blocker. Dwight Howard has no fundamentals, he has no moves, stays out of position, can't defend, and just benefits from being guarded by guys like Okafor.

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Howard is a top 15 player in

Howard is a top 15 player in the NBA.

Today, for one game only, I would take, Yao Ming, Chis Paul, Deron Williams, Lebron James, Dwayne Wade, Tim Duncan, Kobe Bryant, Pau Gasol, Chris Bosh, Dirk Nowitzki, Chauncey Billups, Tony Parker, Amar'e Stoudmire, all before Howard.

D Hamp is the greatest basketball thinker in the world. Next to Hubie Brown anyway.

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I think that is a fair post

I think that is a fair post D Hamp. But what about if you needed one guy for 6 years? How many would you take over Howard? Would you take one year rookie wonders that are unproven? Or would your list be down to CP3, D Will, LBJ, CB4, amare Stoudemire, and Tony Parker. That is a top 7 player. I see why you feel he is overrated, but can't you see he is the dominant force in the NBA for the next 8 years. Even if center is falling off the map.

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Naw, six years from now,

Naw, six years from now, Howard should be one of the three best players in the NBA, providing Lebron doesn't fall off like Penny Hardaway. There's bound to be someone in the top three that we haven't even heard of yet.

D Hamp is the greatest basketball thinker in the world. Next to Hubie Brown anyway.

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Ok so your argument is that

Ok so your argument is that right NOW, D Howard is overrated. I can role with that, he progressed nicely every year until this year. If he starts progressing again, he should be top 3. He needs to get his free throws to atleast 68-70% though.

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Exactly.D Hamp is the

That's exactly what I'm saying trinjoe. He won't be overrated a few years from now.

D Hamp is the greatest basketball thinker in the world. Next to Hubie Brown anyway.

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what the hell does that mean? you cant say he will or wont be overrated in a few years because thats totally perception based, which is why he's not overrated in the first place. everyone perceives him as a defensive minded big man with exceptional athleticism and limited offensive game, which is exactly what he is.

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I know what your saying

I know what your saying alphamale. I can't speak for D Hamp, but I percieve Howard as the #1 option on that team. For him not to get 25ppg with his athleticism is unacceptable to me. So therefore I believe oward to be overrated offensively right now. I believe he will get better on the offensive end. I do think Howard is a great player, especially on the defensive end, I just wonder "what if" sometimes on the offensive end, what could he do? He has shown what he can be with the 45pts, 19 boards, and 8 blocks against Indiana this year. I just want his scoring and reliablilty to be improved.

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That's what we are here to

That's what we are here to do alpha...Guess what we think is going to happen. And being a " defensive minded big man with exceptional athleticism and limited offensive game" should not make you a top 5 talent in the NBA.

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i'm not sure where the top 5 talent thing came from. if someone says he's a no doubt top 5 player, then they are overrating him. for the record, he absolutely is a top 5 talent. a top 5 player he is not. also, how can you predict how someone will be perceived? that's crazy! lol

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It's scary that he hasn't

It's scary that he hasn't reached his full potential and he's still a top-5 player, isn't it?
21ppg on 57% fg...and that's his limited offensive game...scary stuff.
1. Lebron
2. D-Wade
3. D-Howard
4. C-Paul

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DWIGHT

http://www.hoopsdaily.com/vb-rankings-report
Good article...even D-Hamp will like it!

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Not overrated

20-20 like 7 times is not overrated and is pure talent.....blocking 5 footers thats still talent why doesn't yao do that ?? Yes he does not have a signature post move and needs to learn more about offence but him just grabbing offensive boards and slamming it right down proves him to be a hustler and a terrific rebounder

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I got the top 5 thing from

I got the top 5 thing from ch15 and everybody else. Ch15, you're the one losing all of you're credibility by saying Dwight Howard is better than Kobe Bryant. If you think that, there is no reason to debate with you anyways.

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Kobe

I just mentioned how they seem to be in the same position at the moment, yet somehow that makes Dwight overrated and Kobe the MVP. The Magic also swept the Lakers this year.
I think Dwight is a more valuable asset than Kobe right now, hands down...and I, personally, would take Dwight on my team any day.

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Top 5

He is a top-5 player right now. I stand by that.

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Orlando

From John Hollinger:
"Orlando's defense in the second half of Game 6 was unbelievable. Nobody takes me seriously when I say the Magic were the league's best defensive team in the regular season, because they don't scowl, preen, start fights or get on all fours to menace Jerryd Bayless, but watch the tape from last night and pay attention.

Boston had 44 possessions in the second half and scored 29 points. I counted four open shots -- four. During a stretch of nearly 18 minutes in the third and fourth quarters, they had one, a layup by Glen Davis."

Although, I'm pretty sure this has more to do with Hedo Turkoglu than Dwight Howard.

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We will see today, when he

We will see today, when he once again crumbles when his team needs him the most. He'll probably have 16 pts and 12 rebs...And he'll only score like 2 in the fourth quarter.

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He's in the top 15

He's in the top 15 ch15r36is. I did look at the link. It proves my point and the still rate his high for some reason sheesh.

D Hamp... the greatest basketball thinker in the world. Next to Hubie Brown anyway.

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PUBLIC SERVICE

PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT:

A NEW TOPIC FOURUM HAS BEEN CREATED FOR DWIGHT HOWARD FOR TONIGHT'S GAME WHERE. PLEASE RETURN TO THE HOME PAGE FOR THE DISCUSSION,

THANKS IN ADVANCE,

DHAMP

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PUBLIC SERVICE

PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT:

A NEW TOPIC FOURUM HAS BEEN CREATED FOR DWIGHT HOWARD FOR TONIGHT'S GAME WHERE. PLEASE RETURN TO THE HOME PAGE FOR THE DISCUSSION,

THANKS IN ADVANCE,

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