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Again Dwight Howard is vastly OVERATED

I want to hear from all of the people who said last week that Dwight Howard isn't overated. What's you're excuse now?! HA HA HA.

He doesn't own a single post move. He dunks. That's all. And all of his blocked shots are on guards 5 feet 10 inches tall. And so much for being the defensive player of the year!! Boston scored all over him last night.

Until he comes up with ONE post up move Orlando will continue to lose to inferior teams (the Boston Celtics withough Kevin Garnett) and his teammates will never go to him in the clutch! He touched the ball 3 times in the fourth quarter. He's overated. Get him out of here.

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If im playing the Orlando

If im playing the Orlando Magic, i dont mind them throwing the ball into him. Make him score 40 on me. As long as you keep him out of paint....his offensive game isnt good enough yet to hurt you.

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Coaching Mistake?

I didn't watch the game at all, but I have to think it was a coaching mistake by Mr. Van Gundy not to throw the ball inside to Howard more than 3 times in the 4th quarter. Maybe if they had, they would not have blown a 14-point lead. If anything, that would seem to prove that Howard is more valuable than people realize.
Obviously, his offensive game still needs a lot of work, but it's hard for some young players to learn the finer points of the game when they can get by on pure speed, strength and athleticism 90% of the time. He also needs to learn to keep his focus on the defensive end when things are not going well on offense. That being said, he's only 23, and his game has already improved exponentially over the last 2-3 years.
Everyone knows his flaws pretty well, and he will still be the most dominant interior force in the game for the next several years, so with that in mind, I would say he is rated just fine at the moment.

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is this a joke? the guy is

is this a joke? the guy is basically a 20 and 15 machine. who cares if he blocks 5'10" guys. at least he is blocking them, not letting them score. get a grip man, the dude can play. best center in the league, easily.

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Dwight Howard Is Not Overrated

Yes it's true that his post game is seriously lacking, but he is a fantastic rebounder and shot blocker. Every coach in the league would take him in a heart beat. Just ask any championship coach why his team won and almost every one would answer that question with the same two words, defense and rebounding.

As for this series with the Celtics, Glen Davis and K. Perkins aren't playing defense, they're using NFL style body blocks to keep Howard away from the basket. I'm amazed how the referees allow that to happen play after play. Of course if Howard had better moves, he could possible maneuver around those cross body blocks. However, this is basketball, it isn't the NFL.

On a side note, Perkins and Davis use moving blocks virtually every time Boston is on offense. Both of them could make a fortune in the NFL as blocking backs. Watching them get away with that mayhem is a disgrace!

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rtbt? Are you serious.

rtbt? Are you serious. You're best explaination is Kendrick Perkins and Glen Davis cloging the lane. Dude. Reall? You making my exact point, if he can't get past those two ------- then he's overated.

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D Hamp, please read what I wrote

REBOUNDING and DEFENSE wins games! Dwight Howard is outstanding in both of those areas. Therefore, in my opinion, he is not overrated. I think every coach in the NBA would agree and love to have Howard as their center.

D Hamp, I agree wholeheartedly that his interior game is lacking. However, that doesn't mean the NBA should allow Perkins and Davis to use NFL tactics and body blocks on every possession. One has nothing to do with the other.

Even though Howard's interior game needs lots of work, he is potent enough to go to the foul line more than anyone else in the league. Or at least he's in the top three. And let's not forget that he's still only 24 years old and has lots of time to improve.

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Dwight Howard is somewhat overrated.

He's a terrific player... great rebounder. Excellent shot blocker.

His problem seems to be a mental one.

He doesn't have any go-to moves against good defenders... how hard would it be to develop a hook shot? a good drop step?

I think he's got a ton of talent, he clearly is a great player if he lead the league in rebounds and blocks. Perhaps he'll become a complete player with more experience.

Not going to howard in the clutch is likely a testament to his poor FT shooting.

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D Hamp... the most intelligent basketball thinker compared to

D Hamp... the most intelligent basketball thinker compared to isiah thomas!! haha

i'm sorry but anyone that thinks d. howard is overrated doesn't know too much about basketball. the first problem with the orlando magic (yes... that's right the ORLANDO MAGIC not d. howard) is that they constantly pass up the entry pass for a long three and anyone that knows basketball or is the GREATEST BASKETBALL THINKER should know that u don't win titles by settling for three pointers. the only reason that orlando is in the second round of the playoffs is the fact that d. howard cleans up so many of those terrible 3pts that his teammates take. D hamp u tell me what real contender would be giving the ball to h. turkogulu in the final minutes of a playoff game and that's not on howard thats on the coach. i live in toronto and know to well about a jump shooting team but he don't have a d. howard to clean up the mess and u know where the raptors are.

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HAHA

How bout them winning that game against the 76ers with ease when Howard was out. He has all the potential in the world but they are messing up in Orlando not teaching him any moves. He won't be able to rely on athelticism forever.

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Well, D Howard may have room

Well, D Howard may have room to grow, but until then, he's overated. And yes he lead the NBA in rebounding. He should. he's bigger and or stronger than everyone else. Where's his jump shot? And yeah he blocks small guards from the weak side of the lane. But he hardly blocks shots man to man. And what about his foot work. Yeah, make sure you watch next game. All of this is why he is overated. Had he not let the league in rebounding and blocks with his NATURAL size and speed, he would be Emaka Okaford... decent, but far from dangerous.

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D Howard Still Has Flaws

D Hamp, you're right. There are obviously a number of flaws in Howard's game. In fact, I agree with most of your criticism above, however, I think you are underrating his other attributes. Doesn't he lead the league in rebounding? Doesn't he make players change the arc of their shots when driving to the hoop?

Once again, most people would agree that rebounding and defense wins games and those are his two strongest attributes. If he had the kind of offensive skills you are describing, he would be the best player in the league, but that's not the case. However, he is the best rebounding and shot blocking center in the NBA, that in itself is a pretty nifty accomplishment at the age of 24.

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Dwight

Dwight is a very good player and an all-star, but I agree that he is overatted in the sense that many people but him in the category of players that can be the best player on a championship team right now. (lebron, kobe, wade etc) Personally I'd rather have a chris paul, melo, pierce, or dirk for a playoff series, but I see that this matter is debatable. Two things to note: better D is played in the playoffs, and the dunks that howard relies on for points are more available in the reg season than the playoffs. 1 on 1 scoring is often the only option in late playoff game situations and howard cant do this unless he gets the ball 2 feet from the rim. Also, Dwight plays on a team with absolutely no big men (probably more so than any other league in the team, ur pf plays like a sg, and gortat has a vertical of 10) other than himself which contributes to why his rebound totals are so high. (not to say he isnt a monster rebounder, but it def contributes) Dwight has a ton of potential though and could end up being a champion type player. but hiis devel has been slow and he is at min 2 years away from becoming a dominate offensive player, if he ever does. i guess he wont lead his team to champions. sad tho that he blamed van gundy for game 5, when its him that hasnt developed an offense move in 5 years in the league.

and the whole defense wins championships thing sounds better in cliche than in reality. and for football. Defense is important and great teams always play great D. But D is so team-based that individuals cant have the same effect on defense as some players have do on offense. the top players who lead teams to championships are offensive players First (jordan,james, magic, bird,shaq, kobe). you will never hear someone say dikembe mutumbo or ben wallace or shane battier are taking over a playoff series.

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"Had he not let the league

"Had he not let the league in rebounding and blocks with his NATURAL size and speed, he would be Emaka Okaford... decent, but far from dangerous."
So, if he wasn't a super athlete who had NATURAL size and speed, and he didn't lead the league in rebounding and blocks, he would just be Emeka Okafor? I guess if Lebron didn't have NATURAL size and speed and didn't win the MVP, he would just be Joe Johnson?

Statistically, Dwight was the best C in the league this year, and he DID lead the league in rebounding and blocks. His team won 59 games. He's not the best player in the league, but he's top-5.
I just don't get the claim that he is overrated. He is what he is. At 23, he's the best interior player in the league with room for improvement. A top-10 player in the league who has yet to reach his peak. Not an all-time great just quite yet, but he's a presence on both ends of the floor who will only get better.
And, just so I can stop hearing this made-up argument (maybe), I would argue that less than 1% of his blocks come on 5'10" guards.

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Hes not overrated. What

Hes not overrated. What makes him great is his defense and rebounding. His limited offensive game has nothing to do with his defense and rebounding

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Like I said before, he is a

Like I said before, he is a taller Ben Wallace who can shoot a little better lol. Then what made it funny is that he was trying to blame his coach. He is definitely not top 5 nba talent, he barely makes it in my top 10.

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D-Hamp is overrated.

D-Howard is now officially underrated.
Although, I love the argument that he is only good because of his size, speed, athleticism, accomplishments and statistics. I suppose if you take all those away from him, he's really not that good.

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Dont worry...before the NBA

Dont worry...before the NBA season started everyone got together and said Give the Celtics every call they need. Moving screens, flopping...that team does it all. They really shouldnt even be in the second round right now. Its funny how not 1 of the Boston Celtics has even got a fine of some sort. But Kenyon Martin pushes Weak Stick Dirk down and gets 25G's! League is a joke.

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ch15r36is..... Here you go

ch15r36is..... Here you go again calling me out. Howard isn't that good. Face it. He teammates don't even respect his cluth play. THREE touches in the FOURTH QURATER. Say all you want about coaching, he's on the bench. Do you think that would have happened to Shaq? Nope, he would have demanded the ball. AND WHERE WAS IS DEFENSE LAST NIGHT??? they blew a 14 point fourth quarter lead.

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Blake Griffin = Dwight

Blake Griffin = Dwight Howard, athletic big with no post moves

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Superman is no damn Ben

Superman is no Ben Wallace, that's a bad insult...

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Superman is at least Sir

Superman is at least Sir Patrick Ewing, if not Hakeem Olajuwon

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It is crazy how Howard

It is crazy how Howard doesnt get the ball. People said the same thing about a young Shaq and not having moves but he was dominant because he got the ball. Shaq dominance help out his teammates. Dwight is right regardless if he scored or not he needs to get touches. They other teams need to have to respect him on offense or else they will just continue to go man to man and treat him like his a scrub player because right now Van Gundy is turning his dominant player into just any old big man. Even with limited post moves Howard is still dominant enough to shoot a good percentage inside. He will not make all of his shot. I mean who does. Basketball is all about tactics and forcing the defense to adjust and the Magics can not do that when they deny touches to their best inside player. Also they need to trade one of their small forwards for a big man to put beside Howard. Maybe trade Hedo to Sac for Jason Thompson who can shoot perimeter shots and rebound only if Sac gets Griffin. That would give both teams a good starting 5 and put Lewis back at the 3 where he should be more comfortable.

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Dwight had a better year statistically than Kobe did. His team also swept the Lakers 2-0 in the regular season. Kobe's clutch play was not enough to overcome Dwight Howard.

Dwight was defensive player of the year, 4th in MVP voting, will be first team All-NBA for the 2nd straight year, and I am supposed to believe that he is not one of the top 5 players in the NBA?

Either everyone else in the world is wrong or some guy named D_Hamp who can't spell Hubie Brown half the time, and thinks Eric Devendorf is the best player ever is wrong. That's all this comes down to, my friend.

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Howard

He is not overrated in my mind because we all know he doesn't have low posts moves, beside spinning off his man and catching lobs.

Look, he is a stellar defensive player, and great rebounder. he is just the 5th person eve to lead the NBA in blocks in rebounds in the same year. All the other players were mentioned among some the best ever. Just respect him for what he is at this point.

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howard may be top 5 for an

howard may be top 5 for an 82 game season. in a playoff series not even close. id rather have bron, wade, kobe, duncan, kg, paul, melo, dirk leading my team. probably pierce. maybe yao. maybe manu. maybe roy. do u think its accident that the magic have blown so many huge leads these playoffs late in games?

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I could care less about

I could care less about Kobe! I only said IN ANOTHER POST that he deserved the MVP. And you didn't answer my question, where was his defense last night. Nuff said. Read the posts. Many people agree with me.

And stop bringing up Devendorf. You're only trying to deflect how overated Howard is.

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The most overrated player in

The most overrated player in the past decade is Steve Nash.

No wayyy he deserves 2 MVPs.
He is gonna get dunked in the face hard when I play him

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Overrated

Howard is a little overrated. When you think of great low post scorers like McHale, Olajuwon, and even Gasol, they are all able to make 2 or 3 moves depending on how the defender reacts. Howard is stiff and seems to commit to what he is gonna do regardless of how the defense reacts. That is why he ends up taking contested jump-hooks from 10 feet out. He needs a lot of work on his low post game.

And to Al Farouq Aminu, I agree that Nash should'nt have won either of those MVP's. The funny thing is I do think he should have won the year they gave it to Dirk, but there was no way Nash was gonna get 3 straight MVP's. The way I see it, he should have one MVP, and it was'nt either of the two he actually won.

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1 game

1 game (12pts/17reb) doesn't make a player overrated. Him dunking too much and being too strong and athletic doesn't make him overrated either.

Come back when you have a legitimiate argument to show that his Defensive Player of the Year, All-NBA first team, top-5 MVP voting, top-5 PER, league-leading blocks and rebounding, 2 consecutive years with playoff series wins, and 59 regular season wins at age 23 are all flukes.

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I agree with that about Nash

I agree with that about Nash and the MVP's. he did deserve one but it was at a time when he didn't get it. The NBA is about trends and they wanted people to crave playmaking guards over me first ones so they hype up Steve Nash over some pretty deserving people.

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I'm not hating on Dwight. All his accomplishments and awards are well deserved. However, when you think of the best players and MVP's in the history of this league, they are able to put a team on their back and take over in the playoffs. Right now, I'm not seeing that from Dwight. That is why stats can be misleading, there is no column in the box score for making critical plays when they are needed most.

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Those boys are physical and playing D

Kendrick Perkins guards him the best in the league. I have noticed it since last season. He has a lot of problems with Perk. Perk is a good defender who has long arms and is as tough as anyone in the league. He is very strong. Dwight struggles against him, it happens. Big baby is heavy, and strong with a lower base therfore he is tough to move. They have guys who give him problems. Dwight is still a beast, just struggles with the Celtics do to those two players.

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Maybe if Howard went to

Maybe if Howard went to college he would have developed some post moves.... Aminu, PLEASE DO NOT COMPARE Howard to Ewing or The Dream. I agree with scout4real about Perkins and Davis they are just bodying up Howard and their physical defense is giving him fits. Howard isnt overrated, but I would take a healthy Yao over him...

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I hope the Magic loose the

I hope the Magic loose the series and he demands a trade. I would love to see him in Utah or Miami. He would slay in a pick and roll offence and he and D-Wade would be be great. Howard at the center with Haslem, Beasly, Wade, and Chalmers?? OR Howard at center with Okur ( or Milsap ), maybe AK-47 or Brewer, Korver, and D-Williams. Nasty anyone??

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jaredpaul?

So you think they would trade DHoward to Miami without the Heat having to give up any starters?

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dwight

i really hate the term overrated in this sense because its strictly a media thing. but thats what you get when you have a fun personality, win dunk contests, and play to the crowd. basketball insiders know exactly what he is. a super athlete with limited offensive skills. did he deserve DPOY? i think so. did he deserve all NBA? yes. so in that sense he is not overrated. i dont think anyone considers him an offensive force at this point (except maybe himself) so he's not overrated at all. al-farouq aminu, please quit with The Dream comparison because its flat terrible. do us all a favor and dont ever repeat that. i will say that "The Master of Panic" is a joke as a coach. i cant help but laugh when he's mic'ed up in timeouts and he says things like "Lets Go" and "Rebound". Really Coach?!!! Ron Jeremy's NBA coaching career ends after these playoffs.

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Howard may not have polish

Howard may not have polish post moves but you still have to give it to him to establish the inside outside game. I said it before what post moves where people saying shaq had coming out of LSU huh. Also Howard is still young and I have noticed improvements in his inside game but he rarely gets the ball. If he was getting the ball and shooting less than 50 percent on 20 shots then there would be a problem but he isnt. He may struggle to go against bigger players but it isnt like it has neutralized him. He can still get decent numbers and put pressure on Boston's defense. Not passing the ball to Howard is working in Boston favor. Orlando needs to live and die by their star. I know they can win by doing this.

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Even if superman improves

Even if superman improves his offensive skills, they will not sure much in his game cuz he will still utilize his athleticism 90% of the time.

The only difference will be during clutch time in which Ron Jeremy could then tell superman to have the ball...

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Let's imagine superman

Let's imagine superman masters all that hook shot skills and all the post moves that Olajuwon possessed, superman will still prefer tryig to dunk on every possession and play like he is doing right now 90% of time...

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if he had The Dreams moves, which he wont because he cant, he would average 40ppg. he would try to dunk, and if he couldnt he would have a bottomless bag of post tricks that would make him unguardable. and then once you triple teamed him, which would be absolutely necessary, he would throw it out to shooters. so he would probably average 10+ assists. lol. in summation, Dwight Howard with Hakeem Olajuwons skills equals a walking triple double and the greatest player of all time. Let's just give Shaq in his prime Larry Bird's shot and really have some fun.

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That means he is a dummy.

That means he is a dummy. Amar'e has that athleticism but he still utilizes his other skills. If Dwight had anything that resembles a decent jump-shot he could have terrorized big baby and Perkins, because if they played up on him to stop it he could then use his athleticism to blow right past them.

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THANK YOU

D12, SUPERMAN or whatever you wanna call him is OVERATED beyond belief. It is unreal sure he averaged 20 a clip but that off cheapies like dunks and easy lay-ins. He dont got a post move he can put to memory. All Hype not much game!!!

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The Lakers got Gasol without

The Lakers got Gasol without giving up anything.

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That's cuz the Grizzilies

That's cuz the Grizzilies wanted to relieve salary issue and made that dumb trade that even the owner regretted for getting Kawme Brown.
Also, superman is not white and unatheletic like Gasol.

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And hes not the second best

And hes not the second best player on the number one team in the league.

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overrated fo'so...when people speaks about "the dream", guys are you 15 YO ?.
D-hamp i agree.... overrated, the guy have no hands, no touch, no moves, it's simple in the last 3 games, he mades 3 or 4 FG on 18 attempts over perk', airballs, TO, blocks he just tastes all....perk is at the defensive end what big AL is on the offensive end, best post player, he just can't go through or over him...so his game is" ala noah", putbacks, tips, open dunks, or baskets on scalabrine, house....what a beast.
On the defensive end i agree too, great athleticism, and plays along outside playaz, guys who takes 5 boards a game, who makes a block every ten games, he boost his stats, logic.
DPOY if u want, he's not a half dikembe, big ben or ZO in that area when they were...D is not only numbers, come on, he lost his head regularly for a DPOY.
Superman ?, the original have a better season in his rookie year than him in his 5th season, pliz, in a century with big mens, legit size, real bigs, great bigs, skilled bigs ala pat-dream-the admiral-zo-dikembe and co... some true PF too, not combo's like 2 day.
i don't speak about the muscles, too strong 4 TV, but can only move perk by an inch...pistons were right last season that's all.

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stop bashing d hamp

since nobody has ur back plz believe i do. I been telling ppl that dwight is overrated for sum time now and nobody has seemed 2 listen. now i got friends tellin me dam u were right he is trash. there is no need 4 dwight 2 complain about gettin the ball when he aint doin s*** when he does have it. again dwight has no moves. he is the owner of droping his shoulder and tryin 2 throw up a weak hook or a dunk and that is it. yes he plays D and rebounds but dont hype him up 2 be the best big man in the game when he cant even hit a hook shot. throw him alleys all day but dont say he is the best big man bcuz he isnt. dwight has run into another center who is strong like him and cant do a thing. this jus shows the mediocrity of centers in the league 2day

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Hamp You are an idiot

And for anyone else who thinks Howard is Overrated then you are an idiot too... I wouldn't say Howard has great post moves but EVERYONE I repeat EVERYONE knew that since his rookie year... And he's not Dream but he has the same impact on the defensive end of the floor... He's averaging 2.2 blocks a game this series and lord knows how many he altered, not to mention rebounding...

Now the Celtics, Im not the one to make excuses but the C's play a style of defense that is outlawed (so I thought) from the NBA... Number 1.. Perk and Davis can't put their fore arm on the back of a player to keep them from backing down... Number 2... Perk can't use his off arm on a player then block their shot... Number 3... This team reach in too much not to be called for fouls... Eddie House is not a defensive player and by far not a smart defensive player and for him to reach in ALL the time and nothing gets called, its become a problem... Ref's never call hand checking on the Celtics and they ALWAYS ride players... Not to mention the illegal screens (KG was the King of this) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbB731KpKuw
... If I see Perk get mad at a call again and not get a Tech for that sheesh, Ima go mad... And the Rondo foul on Miller will never die!!!!

But Dwight Howard isn't Overrated, the Magic players have to go to him... He's your best player REGARDLESS of his post game or lack there of, they still have to go to him... They can only go as far as he takes them... And for your best player to only get 10 shots is terrible...

D Hamp=== He was 5 for 10... Thats 50 percent... I'll rather take 50 percent from a player shooting 3 feet away from the bucket than taking 30 percent from 25 feet... Its common basketball sense... Well I guess not for Hubie Brown... HA HA HA HA....

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tuck243. Why the disrespect?

tuck243. Why the disrespect? Not that it matters! I'll just kill you with kindness!

Anyway, I've said everything I have to say on this topic. If Orlando, with Howard as it's leader, can't beat the Celtics without Garnett then there's no more to this debate. And if bloggers best argument is against me is that Kendrick Perkins and Glen Davis are cloging the lane, then I really feel the need to laugh! Howard is a bully with no skills. He not even close be being a top 10 player. Maybe top 15; he's just bigger than everyone.

D Hamp... the most intelligent basketball thinker in the world...Next to Hubie Brown anyway.

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The argument for Dwight

The argument for Dwight Howard being overrated:
- He is too strong and athletic
- He might not win a 2nd round playoff series against the defending champs at age 23 with his PG out for the season

The facts (sorry, this is the best argument I can come up with):
- 21 & 14 with 3 blocks and 57% from the field.
- Defensive Player of the Year
- 2-Time All-NBA First Team
- 2 Straight Years top 5 in MVP voting.
- 52 and 59 regular season wins in 2008 and 2009 seasons
- 2 Straight years with a playoff series victory
- Starting C on the 2008 Gold-Medal US Olympic team.
- Chris Paul, Dwyane Wade, Tim Duncan, Amare Stoudemire, Steve Nash and Dirk Nowitzki are now all out of the playoffs before Dwight.

You can't name 5 players in the NBA that you would trade straight up for Dwight Howard right now.
1. Lebron
2. Maybe D-Wade.
3. No one else.

But, since Dwight doesn't have that killer drop-step, jump shot or sky hook that Shaq obviously had, none of the facts really matter, do they?

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