With the 9th Pick in the 2010 NBA Draft the Utah Jazz select Cole Aldrich from the University of Kansas.
I really hope this guy is available at #9 when the Jazz pick. If he is available I am pretty sure that the Jazz will draft him. He would be a great young center next to a point guard like Deron Williams. He could start from day one or he could be a productive player of the bench and then take over the starting job. For people who say that he is too short for an NBA Center look at this:
Dwight Howard's Height w/o Shoes is 6-9, while Cole Aldrich's Height w/o Shoes is 6-9. Howard's Height w/ Shoes is 6-10.25 while Aldrich's is 6-11.25. Howard's weight is 240 lbs and Aldrich's is 236. Last but not least Howard's Wingspan is 7-4.5 and Aldrich's is 7-4.75.
So if Aldrich's measurements are practically identical to the best center in the NBA(Dwight Howard) then I think he is tall enough, weigh's enough, and has a big enough wingspan to make it as a center in the NBA. The Jazz's starting line-up would look like this:
PG Deron Williams
SG Wesley Matthews
SF C.J. Miles/Andrei Kirilenko
PF Paul Millsap
C Cole Aldrich
I just hope that if Aldrich is available at #9 that the Jazz would be smart enough to draft him which I think they would.
lol u cant compare him to dwight howard come on..dwight howard is a BEASTTTT, he is a flippin tank..thats why even tho he isnt too tall...he is still veryyy powerful which is why he is successful, and he's so athletic, he's a freak..cole aldrich is nothing compared to d12 in physicality so please do not compare with d12 lol..
i think he's going to have a good chance of falling to #9. i think the top 5 are pretty set and i don't think golden state picks aldrich because he's not a real good fit for an offensive, running team that isn't really focused on defense. reports are detroit aren't intereseted in aldrich and i doubt the clippers go after a center with kaman and jordan on their roster.
i think comparing aldrich to howard in terms of size is ok, but rafael araujo and robert swift had the size to play. what they lacked was offensive skills and athleticism. those are the 2 real question marks about aldrich.
He didnt compare him to D12 he compared his measurements b/c ppl are questioning Aldrich's ability to make it as a C in the League but he has the size and length to play Center in the League thats the point he was makin
he not comparing him he's comparing size and lenth " pause' and if the jazz did draft him i think okur would start at the four with him
he not comparing him he's comparing size and lenth " pause' and if the jazz did draft him i think okur would start at the four with him
Aldrich will be successful. He's got real nice length, body strength, and he has a good body frame. I feel that Cole Aldrich will be one of the smartest and best post defenders in the NBA. He's not a shot-blocker that gives up space in order to redirect shots, he will pin your shot on the glass while he's bodying you up too. He's physical and his length makes him a huge presence on that end. He's also a smart player that knows how to use his fouls for the most part, and he knows who he's playing and their tendencies. He's not very talented offensively, but he finishes well in pick-and-roll and has a hook shot in his arsenal he can go to. I think he'll be a successful C for some team, he's going to be a role player but a top notch one. Utah should definitely take him if available.
yeah but its a dumb comparison because if you just judge Howard on his size and length he would be a little short for a center in the NBA...However the reason Dwight Howard is able to be so successful is because of his amazing jaw dropping athleticism which Aldrich does not have at all.....So what is your point that because Aldrich is as tall as Howard he is going to be a successfull center....Here is the question you should be asking yourself...Does Aldrich have what it takes to guard the likes of Howard and Bynum much more athletic players then himself...To me the answer is absoultely not
yeah i think i didnt make myself to clear, i was trying to say that u cant really compare how succesful d12 is and how cole aldrich will be becuase of the measurments, like juves4873 said its more about athleticsm and offensive skill, if d12 wasnt as athletic he probably wouldnt be a C in the league i would consider him more of a PF, but becuase of his strength and athletiscm u can pass him as a C, so yeah i think aldrich is too small for a C unless he can get stronger
I think this would be a good pick up for the Jazz. He is more of a Center than Okur that is for sure and he has the length to be a pretty good shot blocker. Needs to get stronger though.
i think its a very good pick for the jazz. whats the thing that the jazz has problems with?..scoring?..no...defense?..a lil but more specifically is big man defense and i think he can provide that while also being about to score a lil which they wont need him to do much of. he might not have the potential of some other big men but utah isnt a team that needs a big man who can score or jump they need a big who can defend while being tough and cole fits that perfectly. he could be a prizbilla type with more offense which fits into the jazz needs. so he fits a need while also being a good player and possibly the best player avaliable if he falls to 9. i dont think you have to wait a couple of years for him to produce either liek you do some of the other big men
i think hassan whiteside would be a better pick for them...hopefully he drops to 13th and raptors can take him:P
Whiteside will drop farther than 13.
Hassan Whiteside is no better than that Kyrso (spelling lol) C that they have right now, and Whiteside is a poor man-to-man post defender. They need Aldrich, or Udoh if Aldrich is gone.
Williamsfan11.....Dude Get a Grip!! You must've been Inhaling Frank Layton's Underwear!!! Or did Karl Malone have you in a Headlock and force you to write that?? Comparing Cole To Dwight....Cole has a chance to be a nice role player...But Howard is more dominant...On the real though..What does a player's measurement to another player has to do with how successful they can become?
His point was that if Dwight Howard can play C in the NBA than Aldrich can too because he has very similar physical tools. He wasn't comparing Aldrich and Howard as players. I agree with what he was saying. Dwight Howard/Cole Aldrich have more than enough tools to play C in the NBA, but Howard's athleticism just makes him stand out alot more. Two totally different players, but with similar physical attributes.
I think if Aldrich doesn't go to Detroit at 7 he'd be a great pick for Utah. They have Okur to spread the floor and they'd have Aldrich to play defense and add a tougher element to center than they've had. PLUS Aldrich is 6'11.25'' in shoes, last time I checked no one in the NBA plays basketball barefoot.
I fear Cole Aldrich is Ostertag 2.0. Do not want another Ostertag. If he is available but Udoh is not then we should draft Aldrich.
Here is my draft board in order. (favors and cousins are not on here because they will be gone by the time the Jazz are on the clock)
Udoh has value at that pick and I think that is a valid option for Utah at #9 however in regards to Aldrich being the next 00...
I've seen both Ostertag and Aldrich play at a college level and they are very different. I see where people get that comparison, tall white guy from KU with a flat top who is a defensive specialist. That being said, Aldrich is much more active and relies more on timing than Ostertag to block shots, Ostertag was a massive 7'2'' and pushed 300 pounds, he also played in the NBA when there was no defensive 3 seconds...he was a lane clogger with nothing more than a drop step for offensive moves. Aldrich, for his size, has good open court speed and hustles to run the floor, he has a quiet demenor, but yells when he swats shots out of the air. He also has a few basic hook shots and turn around moves that make him a guy who if he got the minutes could average 8-11 ppg in the NBA and Aldrich is a much better rebounder as well because of his better mobility.
I think everyone knows what Aldrich can and can't do, he's not a surprise player in this draft, just very solid, but he's no Ostertag either
now Dwight is like 6'11 275 monster..when he came there with those 6'10 240 some people even thought he could play SF lol.
Aldrich is only 6-10 in shoes and unathletic.
His max vertical is 28 inches which is laughable.
He averaged just 11 points in college.
He averages more turnovers than assists.
He'll be nothing more than a backup in the NBA.
Worse than Ostertag because he doesn't have Ostertag's size.
He's what they call BUST material.
The Jazz are too smart to waste their pick on him.
Cole Aldrich is 6'11.25'' in shoes, every measurement released has stated so
Brooke Lopez only had a 30'' vert
Joakim Noah averaged 12 ppg in college
a defensive centers' ability shouldn't be judged on their assist/TO ratio
Even if he doesn't reach his full potential, there are a ton of teams who would love a shot blocking defensive minded player off their bench
Dwight Howard is smaller than Ostertag too
He may not reach his full potential, but he's a safer pick than Whiteside
He would fit in very well with the Jazz from day 1 as a backup to Okur who would provide a different element and provide tough post defense.
He averaged 15 and 11 as a sophomore though, and had 3 blocks for good measure. And 99.95% of centers in college average more TO's than assists. And he only averaged 1.6 TO per game in both his Soph and Jr years, which is very good actually. He's not a big talent offensively, but he's not at all a liability. He's no worse an athlete than a good deal of C's in the NBA, and he's got great length and strength. He has little downside, and at worse would be a Joel Pryzbilia, who is one of the 2 or 3 best backup C's in the game.
Hes A Kendrick Perkins clone. I think hell have a pretty good career, id consider taking him at 5 strongly if im the Kings(unless Cousins still there) because hes a player who can be a solid starting center for you for 10 years.
Career averages of around 10 7 2.
Mr. 6000, JoeWolf and Quincey are the voices of reason here.
Lulz @ teh n00bs who try to tell them what's what.
I cant wait for cole aldrich to get to the league because it is going to be funny watching him cause a lane violation every time he shoots a free throw lol
That makes him 6-10 w/ real shoes. Not the fake ones.
He's shorter than Mehmet Okur.
He's shorter than Kosta Koufos.
He's shorter than Kyrylo Fesenko.
He's 3 inches shorter than Greg Ostertag.
He weighs only 236 lbs.
He's fairly weak for a post player. Just 10 reps on the bench press.
He's unathletic. His max vertical is just 28 inches.
Career averages at Kansas: 9.4 points 7.7 rebounds.
Final year at Kansas: 11.3 points 9.8 rebounds.
At best, Aldrich is a slower, less athletic version of Chris Anderson.
That's not worth a lottery pick!!!
The Jazz are too smart to waste their lottery pick on a 6-10 role player who can't score and will be a career backup.
Did Cole Aldrich do something to you once upon a time or something? You keep pulling all these things about what he can't do and not about what he does.
I'm a Kansas State fan, and I can still vouch for Aldrich. He's a good player and if you have to find all the negatives (that aren't really negatives) about him without saying anything good, when there obviously is some good, you just sound like a pessimist.
Aldrich will be offensively-challenged in the NBA.
I pity the team that drafts him.
This site has it right: Eric Montross/Joel Pryzbilla.
Just a shorter version. Yikes!
I'd rather have others than udoh though. Like I've posted previosly, udoh is a power forward, he is too small to play center in the NBA. So if he is a power forward, why not take a more talented power forward like patterson. Patterson and udoh have similar size and athleticism but Patterson is a better all round player.
If others are gone then udoh would help us and I wouldn't be dissapoited. Let's face it, most of these guys (except whiteside right now) would bean immediate upgrade for the jazz at the backup c/pf positions. Fesenko and koufos are lost causes IMO. Whiteside has potential to be better than those two but I don't see it right now. So if they are looking for potential, maybe go whiteside but I really doubt that will happen since they could just keep 7'1" Fes for their token "potential" center on the team.
Here is my order of realistic picks
Like I said all would be upgrades. If we go the 3 route, we obviously need a better center through free.agency or trade.
The dude wants to play hard, that alone separates him from tag.
Tag had great moments but then he would disappear for months.
Aldrich has at least a signature move that will get him points in games. Tag had nothing.
He wont be the go to man but at least they won't abandon him.
Cole Aldrich 6-10
NBA comparison: shorter Eric Montross/Joel Pryzbilla
Career averages at Kansas: 9.4 points 7.7 rebounds
Final year at Kansas: 11.3 points 9.8 rebounds
Eric Montross and Joel Pryzbilla were similar offensive players in college.
Aldrich is the shorter version. Yikes!
The offensively-challenged one.
cyclo, I've notice a trend with your arguements. You only site stats, averages and comparisons from other websites. I have a feeling from your arguement that you haven't seen him play or if you have maybe once or twice. It's irrelevant that his career averages at KU are 9.4 ppg and 7.7 rpg because he was buried behind 3 players who were drafted in 2008 on a national championship team and he played very little. He is the Big 12 defensive player of the year two consecutive years and is pretty strong. Bench press isn't that effective a way to measure a guy who's wingspan is 7'4'' strength. Watch the KU/Missouri game at Missouri and tell me Cole Aldrich isn't strong.
I'll admit he has some weaknesses in his game and doesn't have great upside, but he's a solid pick, especially for a team who needs interior defense at the center position. I get the feeling a lot of people who aren't familiar look at him, see a big white guy with a flat top and a missing front tooth and then look at his measurements and averages and come to the conclusion he is a bust, but the dude is nasty inside playing defense and can add a lot to a team who needs that.
We need to take Whiteside. He has the length and shotblocking we need. Aldirch is NOT our guy. He isnt big enough or athletic enough. Whiteside is a freshmen with potentail threw the roof! Theres a chance he could be a bust but i doubt it. I think he's gonna be a tyson chandler with more shot blocking. He wont be a huge contributer right away just be a back up for Okur and will bring energy and blocks shots and hustles. But by the time Okur is gone i think he will be ready to take over and be that true defensive Center that we have been waiting for.
"will bring energy and blocks shots and hustles."
Have you ever watched Whiteside play? He is not energetic, and does not hustle.
No i havent seen him play at all. I've just seen his numbers, highlights, and read stuff about him. It just seems to me if he can live up to the hype i think he could be just want the jazz need inside. I think Aldrich could be a solid backup. But hes not huge for a center and doesnt have big upside either. It wouldnt surprise me to see us take Aldirch, but i'd like to see us take a chance on Whiteside. I dont see why jazz fans arent high on him hes true 7 footer who got over 5 blocks a game as a freshman.
I wouldn't mind taking Aldrich in the late 1st.
But I don't think he's worth #9 in the lottery.
Let's compare Cole Aldrich to Channing Frye who was a better C prospect coming out of college.
PPG in college:
Height w/o shoes:
Frye 6-9 1/2
Aldrich 236 lbs.
Frye 244 lbs.
Aldrich 10 reps
Frye 19 reps
No step vert:
Aldrich 23 inches
Frye 27 inches
Aldrich 28 inches
Frye 31 inches
Doesn't have the height.
Doesn't have the strength.
Doesn't have the athleticism.
Doesn't have the offensive capability.
6-10 centers who can't score have to be either very strong, very athletic or both... and Aldrich is neither. That's why Aldrich doesn't project well as a starting C in the NBA. Could be a good backup C, though. At best, a less athletic Chris Anderson.
I think Udoh and Aldrich are Utah's best bets at #9
Whitside is extremely raw and a major gamble, Utah very rarely finds themselves in the lottery and Aldrich and Udoh seem like safer picks.
I'll admit, I'm not very high on Whiteside, I've seen many players like him over the years who have immense physical upside, but need to be groomed in order to contribute, and more often than not they don't develop into much more than guys who come off the bench and block a shot and a half per game or play a little defense EX. Stephen Hunter, Jamal Sampson, Hilton Armstrong, Darko and Julian Wright are a few just right off the top of my head.
Aldrich, if he doesn't improve anymore throught his career is good enough, right now to be a reliable backup and part time starter who can give you 6 points 6 rebounds and 1.5 blocks in 20 minutes off the bench. However, he is a very hard worker and a self stated people pleaser in regards to working with coaches so although his athletic limitations I see improvement in his future. I think his ceiling is a 12 point 12 rebound 3 blocks per game starter, who can distrupt just about anything coming into the lane.
Udoh, Is a very similar size to Aldrich, which is a little on the small side for a C, but Udoh has the speed and ball handling to face up a little more and play PF and occasionally give releif at the center position. He too is a great shot blocker, and can provide good defense on the inside, although he isn't as tough or aggressive as Aldrich is still more than capable of getting the job done. Udoh can also give you more offense than Aldrich, but he isn't anything more than a 4th or 5th option in the NBA.
I just think Udoh and Aldrich who have winning college experience and are more NBA ready can add more to a playoff team and help a good Jazz team improve from day 1. A guy like Whiteside will have to sit for a couple years and is still a major gamble. Aldrich and Udoh put up major shot blocking numbers in the tough Big 12, not do discredit Whiteside's shot blocking ability, but he if too were in the Big 12, they would still be good, but not at a 5 per game clip like they were in the MAC.
I was high on him too...
Until I watched him play.
He is not a good fit for the Jazz. You're just gonna have to trust me.
Who were you talking about, udoh?
I see two things that Cole Aldrich did in college that will translate to the NBA, rebounding and shotblocking. IMO he has enough size to match up with NBA centers and hold his own. I see him as a very poor mans Marcus Camby...
I was talking about Whiteside.
cyclo is just one of those guys who looks at stats and combine numbers and judges his opinion from that. The best thing to do is give him some space, and let him learn. A couple of years of experience will teach him that you need to scout and study before you can judge prospects. That's what I went through anyway.