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  • #55047
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    Grandmama
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     Was looking at the season the Bulls had in 95-96 just to see how dominant it was.  Here are a few notes.

     

    –  24 times they defeated their opponent by 20 or more points.

     

    –  They lost 2 games at home.  The first coming in the 75th game of the season.

     

    –  Their final 3 losses were all by 1 point.  That close to 75-7.

     

    –  On February 2nd, they were 41-3.

     

    –  Finished the playoffs 15-3, so they were a combined 87-13.

     

    –  Longest win streak, 18

     

    –  Jordan, Pippen, and Rodman all made the NBA All-Defensive 1st team.  First time ever

     

    –  Jordan won regular season MVP, all-star game MVP, and finals MVP

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  • #892799
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    lopatata
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    WOW – That’s absolutely unbelievable. It seems totaly impossible right now in the NBA. I was probably most impressed by that all three players (MJ, Pippen and Rodman) all-nba defensive 1st team selections in the same year. That team was one of a kind…

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  • #892909
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    lopatata
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    WOW – That’s absolutely unbelievable. It seems totaly impossible right now in the NBA. I was probably most impressed by that all three players (MJ, Pippen and Rodman) all-nba defensive 1st team selections in the same year. That team was one of a kind…

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  • #892931
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     Don’t forget Kukoc won 6th man of the year, and Phil won coach of the year. I watched probably 90% of their games that season. They were an amazing team.

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  • #892821
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    JoeWolf1

     Don’t forget Kukoc won 6th man of the year, and Phil won coach of the year. I watched probably 90% of their games that season. They were an amazing team.

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    • #892933
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      juves4783
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      +1. was about to post that too.

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    • #892823
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      juves4783
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      +1. was about to post that too.

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  • #892957
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    CameronCrazy11
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    I’m sure Celtics and Lakers fans would disagree, but it’s hard to argue against this team for the greatest of all-time

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  • #892846
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    CameronCrazy11
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    I’m sure Celtics and Lakers fans would disagree, but it’s hard to argue against this team for the greatest of all-time

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    • #892979
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      ItsVictorOladipo
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      Yeah, they’re without a doubt the greatest team I’ve ever seen and I’ve been watching the NBA for almost 30 years. Keep in mind that I didn’t watch the 1983 Philadelphia 76ers and I was born well after the 1972 Lakers title. The second best team I’ve ever see would probably be the Bulls 1997 version which went 69-13 in the regular season.

      After that I would probably go with the 1986 Celtics. Larry Bird as MVP, Bill Walton as 6th man of the year, two other Hall Of Famers in the prime of their career in the front court with Robert Parrish and Kevin McHale. And a very underrated backcourt of Dennis Johnson and Danny Ainge. They went a staggering 40-1 at home during the regular season.

      Then the 1987 Showtime Lakers. Magic Johnson in the prime of his career, running the point for an offensive juggernaut. They had 4 players average at least 17 PPG during the regular season (Magic, James Worthy, Byron Scott and Kareem) as well as reliable AC Green at PF and defensive ace Michael Cooper coming off the bench. They went 65-17 and 15-3 in the playoffs with 2 of their losses coming against a great Celtics team in the finals.

      After that I’d go with the 1992 Bulls who had MJ, Pippen, and Horace Grant and went 67-15. Then either the 2000 Lakers with Shaq, Kobe and Glen Rice who went 67-15 in the regular season but were tested in the playoffs against the Kings and Blazers, or last years Heat who went 66-16 with LBJ, Wade, Bosh, and a supporting cast of Ray Allen, Shane Battier and a host of three point shooters.

      As consistently great as the Spurs have been over the last 15 years, I’m not sure if there is one particular team that stands out from the rest. It seems like whenever they’ve had their best regular seasons they lose in the playoffs, the 2007 version I remember being pretty dominant. They were the top defensive teams in the league and formidable on offense as well with Duncan, Parker, Ginobli and defensive stopper Bruce Bowen leading the way to 58 wins in the regular season. In the playoffs their closest series was a 4-2 win over the Suns. That being said I don’t really think their competition in ’07 was quite as tough as what some of the other teams on this list had to go through.

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    • #892869
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      ItsVictorOladipo
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      Yeah, they’re without a doubt the greatest team I’ve ever seen and I’ve been watching the NBA for almost 30 years. Keep in mind that I didn’t watch the 1983 Philadelphia 76ers and I was born well after the 1972 Lakers title. The second best team I’ve ever see would probably be the Bulls 1997 version which went 69-13 in the regular season.

      After that I would probably go with the 1986 Celtics. Larry Bird as MVP, Bill Walton as 6th man of the year, two other Hall Of Famers in the prime of their career in the front court with Robert Parrish and Kevin McHale. And a very underrated backcourt of Dennis Johnson and Danny Ainge. They went a staggering 40-1 at home during the regular season.

      Then the 1987 Showtime Lakers. Magic Johnson in the prime of his career, running the point for an offensive juggernaut. They had 4 players average at least 17 PPG during the regular season (Magic, James Worthy, Byron Scott and Kareem) as well as reliable AC Green at PF and defensive ace Michael Cooper coming off the bench. They went 65-17 and 15-3 in the playoffs with 2 of their losses coming against a great Celtics team in the finals.

      After that I’d go with the 1992 Bulls who had MJ, Pippen, and Horace Grant and went 67-15. Then either the 2000 Lakers with Shaq, Kobe and Glen Rice who went 67-15 in the regular season but were tested in the playoffs against the Kings and Blazers, or last years Heat who went 66-16 with LBJ, Wade, Bosh, and a supporting cast of Ray Allen, Shane Battier and a host of three point shooters.

      As consistently great as the Spurs have been over the last 15 years, I’m not sure if there is one particular team that stands out from the rest. It seems like whenever they’ve had their best regular seasons they lose in the playoffs, the 2007 version I remember being pretty dominant. They were the top defensive teams in the league and formidable on offense as well with Duncan, Parker, Ginobli and defensive stopper Bruce Bowen leading the way to 58 wins in the regular season. In the playoffs their closest series was a 4-2 win over the Suns. That being said I don’t really think their competition in ’07 was quite as tough as what some of the other teams on this list had to go through.

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      • #892981
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        ItsVictorOladipo
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        Edit: I completely forgot about the 1989 Pistons; Isiah Thomas, Joe Dumars, Bill Laimbeer, Dennis Rodman, Mark Aguirre, Vinnie Johnson, John Salley and Rick Mahorn. They went 63-19 in the regular season and only had 2 losses in the playoffs both to the MJ led Bulls. In the finals they swept the Lakers in 4 games. I should probably have had the 1989 Pistons just after the 1992 Bulls.

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      • #892871
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        ItsVictorOladipo
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        Edit: I completely forgot about the 1989 Pistons; Isiah Thomas, Joe Dumars, Bill Laimbeer, Dennis Rodman, Mark Aguirre, Vinnie Johnson, John Salley and Rick Mahorn. They went 63-19 in the regular season and only had 2 losses in the playoffs both to the MJ led Bulls. In the finals they swept the Lakers in 4 games. I should probably have had the 1989 Pistons just after the 1992 Bulls.

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      • #892991
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        omphalos
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        Last year’s Heat team just barely won a championship and were VERY close to losing to an old Spurs team, I think that disqualifies them from a greatest team ever discussion.

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      • #893103
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        Last year’s Heat team just barely won a championship and were VERY close to losing to an old Spurs team, I think that disqualifies them from a greatest team ever discussion.

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  • #892961
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     Also went an UNREAL 49-2 at home during the regular season and playoffs combined. Can’t imagine what it was like for the home fans to only see 2 losses in an entire season

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  • #892850
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     Also went an UNREAL 49-2 at home during the regular season and playoffs combined. Can’t imagine what it was like for the home fans to only see 2 losses in an entire season

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  • #892996
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    A comparable team today to the Jordan, Pippen, and Rodman Bulls would be a team with a front line of LeBron James (best player in the league), Kevin Durant (Mr. 1a of the wing position), and Tony Allen as a maniacal defender, bad shooter, and solid rebounder.  Durant is the best scorer since Jordan with LeBron being the best OVERALL player since Mike, with a skill set close to a bigger, prime Scottie Pippen.  Tony Allen can dominate a game without scoring, can lock down and defend multiple positions on the floor, and just brings  a lot of energy to the game. 

    Defensively, a core of LeBron, Tony Allen, and Durant would be incomparable with their length, strength, athleticism, and basketball intelligence. 

    At center you have some solid all-around guys who can either defend or shoot like Kosta Koufos and Jon Leuer.  Plus an extra big as an enforcer in the John Salley/Dickie Simpkins/Jason Caffey role.  Then at point guard you have tough, heady, veteran guys who can make shots, as well as a pure shooter for good measure.   Mario Chalmers, Derek Fisher, and Jimmer Fredette as the new Ron Harper, Randy Brown, and Steve Kerr.

    Then add a crafty, versatile Euro off the bench who can shoot, score, and pass.  Put Manu Ginobili in at Toni Kukoc’ role and your team is set.

    Starters:

    PG Mario Chalmers

    SG Tony Allen

    SF  Kevin Durant

    PF  LeBron James

    C    Kosta Koufos

    Bench:

    PG  Derek Fisher

    PG  Jimmer Fredette

    SG  Manu Ginobili

    PF Jon Leuer

    C   Kendrick Perkins 

     

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  • #892884
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    A comparable team today to the Jordan, Pippen, and Rodman Bulls would be a team with a front line of LeBron James (best player in the league), Kevin Durant (Mr. 1a of the wing position), and Tony Allen as a maniacal defender, bad shooter, and solid rebounder.  Durant is the best scorer since Jordan with LeBron being the best OVERALL player since Mike, with a skill set close to a bigger, prime Scottie Pippen.  Tony Allen can dominate a game without scoring, can lock down and defend multiple positions on the floor, and just brings  a lot of energy to the game. 

    Defensively, a core of LeBron, Tony Allen, and Durant would be incomparable with their length, strength, athleticism, and basketball intelligence. 

    At center you have some solid all-around guys who can either defend or shoot like Kosta Koufos and Jon Leuer.  Plus an extra big as an enforcer in the John Salley/Dickie Simpkins/Jason Caffey role.  Then at point guard you have tough, heady, veteran guys who can make shots, as well as a pure shooter for good measure.   Mario Chalmers, Derek Fisher, and Jimmer Fredette as the new Ron Harper, Randy Brown, and Steve Kerr.

    Then add a crafty, versatile Euro off the bench who can shoot, score, and pass.  Put Manu Ginobili in at Toni Kukoc’ role and your team is set.

    Starters:

    PG Mario Chalmers

    SG Tony Allen

    SF  Kevin Durant

    PF  LeBron James

    C    Kosta Koufos

    Bench:

    PG  Derek Fisher

    PG  Jimmer Fredette

    SG  Manu Ginobili

    PF Jon Leuer

    C   Kendrick Perkins 

     

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    • #892936
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      ItsVictorOladipo
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      Interesting. If I was going to try to replicate the 1996 Bulls team with modern day players this would be my 7 man rotation.

      PG Kirk Hinrich
      SG Paul George
      SF Lebron James
      PF Brandon Bass
      C Joakim Noah

      Bench
      G Gary Neal
      F Chandler Parsons

      Lebron James would replace MJ, the best player in the world today and dominant on both ends of the court

      Paul George would replace Scottie Pippen as a terrific all-around wing and ideal #2 star

      Joakim Noah would replace Dennis Rodman as the best interior player, a lockdown defender with relentless energy

      A 33 year old Kirk Hinrich would take the place of a 32 year old Ron Harper. Good players past their prime but still valuable role players with strong defensive ability.

      A 28 year old Brandon Bass would fill in at the last frontcourt spot for a 27 year old Longley. Both are limited players, but play within their limitations and know their respective roles. They also play about the same amount of minutes, score and rebound at similar rates and both hit their free throws consistently.

      29 year old Gary Neal would sub in for 30 year old Steve Kerr as a combo guard off the bench who can drain the three.

      Chandler Parsons would be a good fill in for Kukoc as 6th Man. He can pass, shoot, rebound, defend and play multiple positions. He can’t handle the ball like Kukoc but not too many forwards right now can.

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    • #893048
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      ItsVictorOladipo
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      Interesting. If I was going to try to replicate the 1996 Bulls team with modern day players this would be my 7 man rotation.

      PG Kirk Hinrich
      SG Paul George
      SF Lebron James
      PF Brandon Bass
      C Joakim Noah

      Bench
      G Gary Neal
      F Chandler Parsons

      Lebron James would replace MJ, the best player in the world today and dominant on both ends of the court

      Paul George would replace Scottie Pippen as a terrific all-around wing and ideal #2 star

      Joakim Noah would replace Dennis Rodman as the best interior player, a lockdown defender with relentless energy

      A 33 year old Kirk Hinrich would take the place of a 32 year old Ron Harper. Good players past their prime but still valuable role players with strong defensive ability.

      A 28 year old Brandon Bass would fill in at the last frontcourt spot for a 27 year old Longley. Both are limited players, but play within their limitations and know their respective roles. They also play about the same amount of minutes, score and rebound at similar rates and both hit their free throws consistently.

      29 year old Gary Neal would sub in for 30 year old Steve Kerr as a combo guard off the bench who can drain the three.

      Chandler Parsons would be a good fill in for Kukoc as 6th Man. He can pass, shoot, rebound, defend and play multiple positions. He can’t handle the ball like Kukoc but not too many forwards right now can.

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  • #893006
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     Alot of people fail to bring up how they shortended the 3 point line from 1994-1997 from 23 ft 9 inches to a round 22 feet. Michael jordan already a deadly scorer but a poor three point shooter shot career high attempts and made 3s and highest percentage in his career. His highest up to that point was 37% on only 98 attempts and during this season he shot 42% on 260 shots. Pippen also shot a career high from there as well.Up untill that point hes never made over 63 threes and then he ups it to 150 on 37%.I know it doesnt sound like to much but when you give two of the most talented players the ability to strech the defense even more it make an already great team posssible the best team ever.

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  • #892894
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    Champzilla21
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     Alot of people fail to bring up how they shortended the 3 point line from 1994-1997 from 23 ft 9 inches to a round 22 feet. Michael jordan already a deadly scorer but a poor three point shooter shot career high attempts and made 3s and highest percentage in his career. His highest up to that point was 37% on only 98 attempts and during this season he shot 42% on 260 shots. Pippen also shot a career high from there as well.Up untill that point hes never made over 63 threes and then he ups it to 150 on 37%.I know it doesnt sound like to much but when you give two of the most talented players the ability to strech the defense even more it make an already great team posssible the best team ever.

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  • #893014
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     It’s funny, after a road win over the Clippers in December, the Pacers were sitting at 16-1 (on pace to go 77-5) and I was wondering if they dared make a run at the Bulls’ record season…

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  • #892902
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     It’s funny, after a road win over the Clippers in December, the Pacers were sitting at 16-1 (on pace to go 77-5) and I was wondering if they dared make a run at the Bulls’ record season…

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