76ers Raptors Trade Idea
Its a simple one. Powell for Noel.
76ers get a young solid Avery Bradley type player. Raptors get an active shot blocker and rebounder.
Toronto really misses Biyambo. They have no toughness in the middle, Valanciunas is a good player but he doesnt protect the rime or get you hustle rebounds. In the Bulls comeback victory against Toronto they had 21 second chance points off of offensive rebounds in the 4th qaurter. In the Rockets comeback victory Harrell scored more than 30-points and only missed I think one shot. Thats really bad and Toronto will struggle to get past the 1st round with that kind of production from thier bigs.Powell is unrestricted next year and Philly would love him.
The Raptors offered Delon Wright for Noel in the past.
I didnt like this trade the first time I read it...but second time around it started to grow on me.
They could take a look at Bogut who is obtainable. I think the Raptors could be a decent chance to re-sign him at a low rate in the future.
He really dislikes America so Canada might be more to his tastes.
They should try to get at least Wright and Powell for Noel. Nerlens has been starting to show his value the last 5 games as he returns from injury and adjusts to coming off the bench.
I know it is a small sample size but Noel appears to have worked on his mid range game as well making an impressive 5 out of 7 shots from 16+ feet so far this season.
He is still only 22 and can give you 15 points 9 boards and 2 blocks a night...there are not many players like that in the league especially those that are available for trade. The Sixers situation is a tricky one with their log jam inside but they still can't just give him away.
I don't think any trade offer should be corroborate by a previous laughable one like the Raptors offered Delon Wright for Noel... I have also offered a half cheese burger for a Lamborghini... should the cardealer calculate that in his next offer?
Norman Powell is not going to have a bigger role that what Noel has in Philly, at the very best he is going to be a rotation player above Luwawu that in 2-3 years is not bery useful. Backup center like Noel is right now in Philly since Okafor is dnping, with Embiid's minutes restrictions and durability concerns is way more valuable to the 76ers. I think this reasonning is also why Colangelo is saying his big are untradable right now. Everyobody tries to have them for players that are not talented enough to even be considered "assets".
You also want Noel for a thinner role than what he has in Philly. Valanciunas is not playing less than Embiid, especially with Embiid's restrictions probably still in the picture for several years at the least (body takes time to fully adjust, would not be shocked if he is still preserved next year). Noel should not desire staying in Toronto more than in Philly, and you would be less likely to resign him. If you want Noel to replace Valanciunas completely (which imo is defensible), then you just know your offer is ridiculous also.
Not enough for Noel. I don't care if he is a rental. You want first rights to sign him, it'll cost you. I'm hoping the Sixers will go the other way and bundle Noel with high draft picks to land a core player. Kevin O'Conner of the Ringer wrote about packaging Noel with several picks including multiple first rounders for CJ McCollum. Sixers have assets so they might as well use them. Powell is a throw in player you get when you absorb a huge contract from another team thru trade.
Would not and could not be a GM in the NBA with his trade proposal! That type of move is the move that gets teams in the hole. He suggested Noel, our unprotected first round pick , Sac's 2019 first round pick and second rounders!! Stop right there!! Noel and Sac's pick alone is fair compensation being the financial bide there in and the defensive struggles CJ and Dame has, ok lakers pick too! But to give our pick this year which will still be top seven with CJ which will get you a player similar or better to CJ on a rookie deal, and a player that can grow with your young core plus NOEL are those SILLY BILLY( King) deals. Not to mention the Sac's 2019, the year after Boogie leaves, will be very high itself. I like CJ but he is not worth a player just like hi younger with potentially more upside for cheaper, NOEL who still has immense potential and potentially another top five pick just to win an additional 10-15 games( MAYBE) and pay 121 million dollars for him and you still will have to pay embed, Simmons eventually! Like CJ can't help the blazers who have a respectable team and talent hold on to the eighth seed, what in the world will he do for us but cost us money and highly valuable assets.
I think trading lots of assets into a player should not happen unless you are in a situation like the cavs with K-Love and all GMs know that.
With Embiid and Simmons being your duo of the future you certainly don't want to throw a guy into the mix who is going to act like he is the franchise player over them despite below all star talent. You want to grow with your two cornerstones, even if they might not end up as good as you wish.
Recent games to me hughlight Noel's value for the sixers and I believe he would eventually stay. These Okafor dnps, whether that's because of an okafor trade or not are showing a lot. Noel/Embiid works well imo, Embiid should still be preserved because of injury concerns and Noel seems to be an off-the-court friend to both your cornerstones according to social media. Noel won't command a max deal this summer it seems with all the debate and probably something more around the Mahinmi contract, which I would sign in a heartbeat for him. Better to spend money on him than Ilyasova imo.
Lol. Noel and the Sac pick for CJ? Blazers laugh, then hang up.... And call back only to laugh and hang up again. If the 76ers front office is in any way like their fans. Noel and Okafor will be on the roster forever.
And it's a shame. CJ would be the ideal fit on the 76ers roster. Can't double Embiid off of his man... nooooo way. But hey, who needs practical fit when you can have 3 centers split time!
Don't worry though. I get it. Fans always overvalue their players. There are Laker fans out there that won't part with Nick Young and Lou Williams because they have some misconceived notion of their value.
A team / front office that traded Batum for Noah Vonleh?
Hmmm... Portland seems like a team willing to let go good players for very little to me.
Portland Didn't want to pay him the $125m or whatever it was deal that it got. Henderson was also a serviable SG that Portland should have kept at his price. And not got Turner.
Hey internet thug, read again I said and lakers pick....and yes he is an ideal fit, but not for all that.....peace internet thug!
If Noel had any value Philly would have cashed in by now.
If Noel had no value Philly would have cashed even moreso.
The very reason why he has not been traded is because they think he is worth much more than the market there is for him.
Among team with a real need for a rim protector, and Toronto is not part of them (you have Valanciunas and decided to let go Biyombo: let's be real), none of them has any trade chip to give for Noel. That's the whole issue.
I personally think this is nearing an end with an impending Okafor trade (these DNPs are too sudden, the guy seems not to care at all of being benched). Noel is probably no longer in the market anyway.
I have made my own version of this trade:
Philly gets Norman Powell and Taurean Prince (and future Toronto 2nd rounder)
Atl gets Jonas Valanciunas, Jacob Poeltl & Jared Sullinger
Tor gets Paul Millsap and Nerlens Noel
actually really god deal for ATL and TOR, just wonder how much the sixers value Noel. If they really value him then its a no go on our end. After watching these last couple games and the potential of simmons playing soon im actually opening up to keeping him, and this is from someone who hates noel LOL.
But a bit overambitious and involving too many players. Why not simplify a bit and make it Millsap to Toronto, Valanciunas and Noel to Atlanta, Powell and Bembry to Philly. Toronto can throw in a low first round pick if they need to.
If Raptors are looking for a PF/C why don't they try WCS from the Kings. He doesn't look like he gets much run from them these days.....