30 number fours in 30 years
there are 30 teams so i ranked 30 number four picks from the last 30 years. my criteria was how i believe the careers will be ranked when it is all done if they are still active. as in a projection of everyone once their career is done. in case you missed previous rankings and are interested you can look back here: http://www.nbadraft.net/forum/30-number-ones-30-years, http://www.nbadraft.net/forum/30-number-twos-30-years, http://www.nbadraft.net/forum/30-number-threes-30-years
hope you enjoy. feel free to express thoughts.
One of if not the greatest shot blockers in NBA history should be higher, damn Lamar Odom was a huge waste of talent, he had it all but never could put it together, nice list though
1. Why does Wesley Johnson suck so bad?
2. If DIon Waiters doesn't have a better career then Mike Conley, then he's a waste
3. S/O to Eddy Curry
In all that is hollow statistics, I urge you to reconsider that one. Antawn did not nearly have the impact of a Rasheed Wallace at their respective peaks of their careers. How Rasheed did not make at least one All-NBA team I do not know, plus he was at times volatile and more than likely never scatched the surface of his fully ability. That being said, he actually had a position, plus played defense, something that Jamison was never known for.
I know Jamison has a higher PER, scored more points per game and All-Time points. What he never did was play an integral role on a contending team that went anywhere. I loved Antawn at UNC, definitely remember the two straight 50's he dropped when he was on the W's. The guy could score in a variety of ways and was an All-Star level player. However, the only time he won was with other All-Star level players, some who might have been either better or equal to him.
Rasheed carried some of those Blazer teams, plus was the leading scorer on a Blazer team that was one quarter away from a shot at the NBA championship. He also pushed Detroit over the top, plus allowed them to be competitive for many years afterwards. He played in 177 play-off games to Jamison's 42. If you look at their head-to-head, you get sort of a portrait of how their careers have played out. Rasheed is 27-15, fairly similar statistics with Rasheed shooting quite a bit better from the field.
Plus, they played vastly different roles in that 2010 Cavs/Celtics play-off series. What I will not forget is Antawn Jamison getting eaten alive by Kevin Garnett. Now, KG may have gotten the better of Rasheed as well, just not to the extent that an old KG destroyed Jamison. Throw in Wallace's 4 All-Star games to Jamison's 2, I feel Jamison still is a nice "role player on a championship or near championship team" away from being in his class, even with statistics appearing to be on his side. So far, it looks like this is probably not going to happen.
Guess the choice is yours, but I know whose career I would rather have had, not to mention the player I would rather have had for a large portion of their career. Could not imagine Antawn playing Rasheed's role in Portland or Detroit, yet feel Washington would more than likely have been better with Rasheed Wallace during those Arenas/Hughes or Arenas/Butler years.
i understand what you are saying. i believe jamison was the best pure scorer in the league at one point of his career while rasheed could never get his head kept on the floor. i think it brings a good debate both ways.
I would have Mutombo ahead of Glen Rice..
Its Interesting that besides Mutombo,Tyrus Thomas,Conley,Wes Johnson and Tristan Thompson alot of these guys were so versatile offensively
Byron Scott might be among to most underrated players ever,if he was on any other team,besides those great Lakers teams,he could've played in a few all star teams.....I see alot of his game in Ben McLemore.......
And i remember alot of people saying how unselfish Rasheed Wallace was,i guess he sacrificed his game to fit into the team's plans.....
Thanks for reminding me, Marcus Fizer, Eddy Curry, and my least favorite player in the NBA, Tyrus Thomas.
Poor Livingston, was on his way to being a very solid player. I can still see that nasty knee injury he suffered. The guy gets a lot of props from me for being able to make it back in the league.
I also think Tyreke will rise up in this list, he just needs to go to a new team.
Shaun Livingston was going to be really good until that horrific knee injury which has nearly ended his career, its amazing that he is till playing today
I was a big fan of the "Monster Mash" in college. He averaged 19, 24 and 23 ppg in his first 3 years in the league before injuries set him back. He later scored a few 20 and 21 ppg seasons with Charlotte/New Orleans including a couple of 25ppg playoff series before retiring at just 31 years of age.
The 93 draft had 3 "can't miss" prospects in Webber, Penny and Mashburn. I used to love watching these guys play in college - if only they had remained healthy....