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30 number fives in 30 years

there are 30 teams so i ranked 30 number five picks from the last 30 years. my criteria was how i believe the careers will be ranked when it is all done if they are still active. if you missed any of the previous rankings and are interested, you can take a look at them here:http://www.nbadraft.net/forum/30-number-ones-30-years, http://www.nbadraft.net/forum/30-number-twos-30-years, http://www.nbadraft.net/forum/30-number-threes-30-years, http://www.nbadraft.net/forum/30-number-fours-30-years

kevin garnett
dwayne wade
charles barkley
scottie pippen
kevin love
mitch richmond
ray allen
vince carter
ricky rubio
demarcus cousins
steve smith
juwan howard
jason richardson
isaiah rider
kendall gill
devin harris
raymond felton
mike miller
jeff green
jonas valanciunas
laphonso ellis
j.r. reid
thomas robinson
sidney green
tony battie
kenny walker
jon koncak
jonathan bender
shelden williams
nikoloz tskitishvili

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Lots of really good #5's

Lots of really good #5's wow...
and as a raptors fan I hope JV isn't that low!!

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even if he is it's still a

even if he is it's still a solid career. laphonso ellis wasn't garnett but he still was nothing to sneeze about and he is ranked lower. the raptors are in the right direction now with rudy gay and the wings.

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Your first 4 players of

Your first 4 players of Wade,Barkley,Garnett & Pippen,you could have either 1 of them at number 1 and wont get many complaints......

But i'll go:

1.Barkley
2.Garnett
3.Wade
4.Pippen

When you look at a player's domininace once their careers are over..Wade playing with Lebron and Pippen being 2nd fiddle to Jordan might hurt their final rankings among the all-time greats......

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agree 100%

agree 100%

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I would give Ray Allen a

I would give Ray Allen a slight edge over Mitch Richmond....

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Barkley

Rudeboy how can you say that Barkley's at the top yet the man has no rings. I don't like holding that against guys in terms of validating their greatness but still KG, Wade, and Pippen all have 1 or more rings. They played with other great players but so did Charles e.g. Houston 96-97 when he played with Hakeem Olajuwon and Clyde Drexler. At the end of the day the one day the reason why Barkley was never able to attain at least one ring is because he did not stay in shape and take care of his body consistently throughout his career. No doubt he was a force to be reckoned with in his prime but to say he had a better career than Wade, Pippen and KG is, in my opinion, a bit much for the Round Mound of Rebound.

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@reeko.....Barkley was a

@reeko.....Barkley was a Unique talent,with great all around skills....You can make a case for him being 1 of the top 5 players at his position....Dude was All NBA 1st Team 5 Times and All NBA 2nd Team 5 Times....11 All Star Games and won MVP when the NBA was full of Future Hall of Fame Big Men.....

Winning a Ring helps Validate a player's career but it doesnt define it....Heck, Robert Horry has 7,Steve Kerr have 5....Nobody would ever say they were great players....If Lebron had never won a ring,where he rank when his career was done?

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I dunno if 30 number 6's is

I dunno if 30 number 6's is worth doing: Antoine Walker, Chris Kaman, Kenny Smith, Brandon Roy and Gallinari then the list gets real ugly real fast

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If it is done, I vote for an

If it is done, I vote for an expansion to 35 number 6's so my boy Larry Bird can be included

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Interesting article by the

Interesting article by the guys at 82games.com: http://www.82games.com/nbadraftpicks.htm

Although the time period is 1989 - 2008, they decided that 6th overall picks tend to be sh*t.

They put each player in a category (star, bust, dnp, etc) and gave each category a numerical value to arrive at an average rating for each pick.

Pick Rating
1 27.0
2 21.6
3 23.8
4 22.2
5 21.1
6 16.5
7 17.8
8 15.2
9 16.6
10 16.7

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Ray allen and vince above

Ray allen and vince above kevin love

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I like KG at 1...I'm not so

I like KG at 1...I'm not so sure Wade is ahead of Barkley and Pippen...Maybe above Barkley but Pippen was one of the best all around players ever and he has 6 rings...

I may swap Allen and Carter with Love and Richmond as well...

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Wade vs. Pippen

Wade vs. Pippen is an interesting argument. Wade carried a team to win the Finals. Pippen obviously was a key part to the Bulls championship success but he didn't carry a team, thanks Hugh Hollins. Both players do everything extremely well besides shooting, but I think Pip has a slight edge in every category- D, rebounding, passing, shooting, etc.

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