3 teams in on Melo deal- chris broussard
Minny is trying to put together a team full of rejects.
- First considered bust, Michael Beasley
- Draft night trade, Kevin Love
- One of the biggest busts, Darko Milicic (even though he's doing well now)
- A guy who failed in the two easiest offensive systems, Anthony Randolph
- Pancake specialist, Eddy Curry
- College transfer, Wesley Johnson
- High School legend and NBA scrub, Sebastian Telfair
New York is 2 maybe 3 pieces away from contending out East.
Defensive Center- They have Turiaf but he is an energy guy like Birdman so he is better suited off the bench.
Player to get- Marcin Gortat or Robin Lopez PHX doesnt need them both. Trading Toney Douglas in the off season to PHX would be great. or Kelenna Azubuike's expiring contract this year would do wonders
Back up PG- I would use the 1st Rounder on Selby or Walker since 1 will probably fall to the mid to late 1st round.
Shooter/Defender- Mickael Pietrus is the perfect guy to put on this team as the energy man off the bench. He's fast as hell, can shoot, defend and jump. He knows the Magic, Heat and Celtics well and is a team player.
Possible rotation
Lopez-Stoudemire-Anthony-Fields-Felton
Gallinari(3/4)-Pietrus(2/3)-Walker(1/2)-Turiaf(5)-Williams(2/3)
This would be great
Sources: Three-team deal discussed
By Chris Broussard
ESPN The Magazine
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The Denver Nuggets and the New York Knicks are discussing a three-team trade that would make forward Carmelo Anthony a Knick before the Feb. 24 trade deadline, according to league sources.
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In the proposed trade, New York would send Anthony Randolph and Eddy Curry to Minnesota and the Timberwolves would send Corey Brewer and a first-round pick to Denver. Denver would also receive Wilson Chandler from New York.
The deal is not expected to happen until the middle of next week at the earliest, and one source said it could drag out until the trade deadline. Denver, which has been exchanging proposals with the Knicks for the past couple weeks, is weighing other options.
With teams aware of Anthony's desire to play in New York, the Nuggets' choices are limited. With little chance of signing Anthony long-term, few clubs are willing to send valuable assets to Denver.
If the trade with New York and Minnesota goes through, Anthony would be in line to receive a three-year, $65 million contract extension as part of the agreement in what is known as an extend-and-trade.
Since Anthony's preference to play for New York is known, there is some sentiment within the Knicks organization to hold off on trading for him and wait until he becomes a free agent this summer. Such a move would enable them to keep their young assets.
But owner James Dolan has been pressing team president Donnie Walsh to trade for Anthony before the deadline, according to sources.
"Dolan is really pressuring Walsh to get Melo, but Denver has been vacillating back and forth," one of the sources said.
A trade to New York would end the season-long saga that began last summer when Anthony refused to sign the contract extension with the Nuggets.
Late in the preseason, reports of a potential four-team deal with New Jersey, Utah and Charlotte that would make Anthony a Net surfaced.
But league sources say the deal was overblown and New Jersey was actually leaking the story in an effort to pressure Denver's new front office regime of Josh Kroenke and Masai Ujiri into making a deal.
Last month, reports of another potential trade of Anthony to New Jersey surfaced, this time involving the Detroit Pistons. That deal was close to being agreed upon, but Anthony was reluctant to sign the three-year, $65 million extension with New Jersey.
Anthony agreed to meet with the Nets but owner Mikhail Prokhorov called off his club's pursuit of Anthony in a news conference a day before the scheduled sit-down was to take place.
Chris Broussard covers the NBA for ESPN The Magazine.
Ever since the Melo drama leaked out, I knew that Denver was gonna get the short end of the stick. In every report I heard about the Melo rumors, there was always that one line that basically said the knicks were his preffered destination. Yeah, there was NJ, but in the end the ball was in Melo's court, so if he wanted NY, he was gonna get it. I feel sorry for Denver, cause they would either have to trade for whatever NY had to offer , and Donnie Walsh is in no rush to trade for Melo, or risk losing Melo in free agency for one last playoff push, like the Cavs last year. Seeing what the Cavs have become (24 straight losses for a team that was a Number 1 seed last year), I think they had to trade. But I'll be sure to fill in Nuggets fans what they missing out on next year
Honestly at this point if I were the Nuggets I wouldn't do the sign and trade, but just trade him or let him go in FA. His openness about only signing for New York has hurt that team so much that if I was the owner I'd gladly screw him over millions, and pray the new CBA lowers salaries.
he has no plan to keep curry , currys contract is one of the largest expiring ones in the league. one of the teams paying luxury tax is going to get him. OR hmm lets think about this a sec at one time curry was a very productive player- min has actually done wonders at turning players careers around. they dont have a lot of depth at center and im sure curry will be paid a lot less. he might have just gotten a major bargain.
how a player can have more leverage than a team......but as i heard chris webber say on nba.....he has a right to choose where he wants to go to work i guess.....he compared it to fed ex like if they wanted you to relocate and you wanted to work where your family was....
"but as i heard chris webber say on nba.....he has a right to choose where he wants to go to work i guess.....he compared it to fed ex like if they wanted you to relocate and you wanted to work where your family was...."
Just one of the small pleasantries these people have to give up to become instant millionairs, and live a life every one of us would kill to have. I show no pity for that excuse; these guys seem to forget how easy they have it sometimes.
The Wolves don't need Randolph...it'd just create a logjam at the forward position. Love and Beasley need all the PT they can get, and that'd get screwed up with Randolph. Plus, the draft pick we'd give up would likely be a top 3 pick...Please, Kahn. Don't do this.
this deal isn't going to happen. makes no sense for minnesota.
also carmelo holds all the cards he wants and is going to play for new york. The more knicks have to trade away, the worse they will be next season.
The knicks can virtually give nothing and melo can sign as a free agent at end of the season, they really don't need to give away multiple draft picks and lots of good players like new jersey had to do
Minnesota's looking for a spark out of Randolph? Cap Space from Curry because... you know... they want to be cheap, especially with a lockout possible. I just think Minny's gonna ride the Love Train like the did the KG Express.. We've seen this before.
Anyone who thinks that the pick is going to be MN's own first round pick which is likely to be top 3, then you're crazy. Remember that they have Utah's pick and Charlotte's pick (top 14 protected), I think it will be one of the other two and probably Utah's because Denver is going to want picks ASAP. I would like to see some more players involved and somehow get Chandler to MN where he would play the 2 guard
Minnesota Timberwolves Basketball... building a contender... elsewhere.
Here you go Miami, we'll help take Michael Beasley off your hands to sign three superstars, Mike Miller, and UD. Enjoy basketball in June.
Here you go Utah, I know you just lost Carlos Boozer and Kyle Korver in free agency, but we have this guy Al Jefferson for you to help ease the pain. Picks... sure.
Here you go NY, just when you start to resembled the middling team you are, have Carmelo Anthony. You know that pick we just got from Utah, you can have that so long as we can get that guy who can't beat out Shawne Williams for minutes. You know what, we'll also throw in our best defender on a team with loads of guys with no interest in guarding anyone just to make sure it happens.
Seriously, this cannot be real. In as much as everyone knows my unending love of the potential of Anthony Randolph to frustrate the likes Don Nelson and Mike D'Antoni, a team cannot be that dysfunctional. This would trump the KG and Pau deals three-fold.
It doesn't help Denver at all. Wilson Chandler will be a restricted free agent after this year, and all he has showed is that he can put up a reasonable line in the D'Antoni system. The problem is inflated numbers get guys more money than they are worth, so getting him in a FA year does them little good. The pick will probably be that of the Jazz, which is not without value but is not going to net the superstar talent they need when losing Melo. Brewer isn't awful, but he is another restricted free agent after the year. The Nuggets would still be carrying four years and $28 million for Al Harrington and three years and $14 million for the Birdman. Then again, for all we know the Wolves will throw in another first for the Free Bird. What happens with Nene and Billups after the year? Nene can opt out and there would be little reason to keep Billups on a team without Melo and Nene. Also, they are only 3 1/2 up on Memphis, 5 on Phoenix, and 6 on Houston. It isn't crazy to think even with the lead built up that they could miss the playoffs and lose out on the playoff gate. Considering how little they get back, they might as well wait on Melo for the next CBA to come out and see if that plays to their favor. They aren't getting more than Toronto or Cleveland got in the Bosh and LeBron sign-and-trades.
My opinion on all 3 teams
Minnesota: Eddy Curry's 12 million dollar deal and Anthony Randolph's potential are for them? I think the T-Wolves are slowly becoming the island of misfit toys (besides K-Love). Like a poster said above, they will keep that top 3 pick and probably grab Harrison Barnes and you add that to Beasley, Love, Flynn and Randolph...you can only hope they improve. I also think people are sleeping on Rubio's value, the man is still worth 2 1st round picks I believe. Remember: One correct draft pick and we could be talking about Minnesota as a up and coming team.
Denver: Chandler, Brewer and a 1st? WOW. If I'm Denver, you know what time it is? TANKING TIME! If I'm Denver, I'm moving Billups, Nene and Birdman. Let me get 60 cents for a dollar on most of those players. Like I said, Denver failed to me because now instead of a potential top 7 pick, your gonna get a 10-14 pick if you tank now. I also believe you test Arron Affalo's trade value, but I would keep him. I will say this: A Chandler-Affalo combo would be good, not as good as Carmelo, but good in the sense.
Here's the 2 deals for Denver if you do this deal
Billups, Ely for Thompson, Landry and Dalembert
Nene for Green, Peterson and maybe see about Aldrich?
Right now, these trades are tough but once FA comes around and you see who's leaving, I think you can move all the incoming pieces around. Make the team young and exciting knowing moving Melo means your losing 50 games next season.
New York: The Knicks get Carmelo Anthony for the 2nd half playoff run. What else you want me to say?
On Espn they just said the deal is close to being done
That's incorrect because everyone else is saying the deal is being talked about and even Broussard said yesterday the deal could be drawn out to the deadline in hope Den can get more.
IMO the best option is to just wait for the summer. You pay Melo wayyy less then you would next year and prob have money left over. The Knicks are a playoff team without him and with him they dont win the title this year. If the deal gets done he gets the big extension and with the New cba chances are very high they won't be able to add anymore players because they wont have the money
I agree. I want to do this: Move Randolph for a 1st round pick and then sign Carmelo in the offseason
I know that's a little bit greedy, but man...imagine the Knicks getting Carmelo with Jordan Hamilton and Kenneth Faried in a offseason? Man, I'd be super happy.
Than makes perfect sense. Before the season started i would say make this trade but the Knicks have shown to be a playoff team without him so why not wait till the off season. Once the season gets close to the end start playing Randolph more to show case him for a off season trade. Force feed him to make him look better then he is and hope a team decides to give up something big for him
I think both Portland and Indiana are ready to give up 1st rounders for him. Portland more then Indy because they have New Orleans' 1st, which could be late.
I'm still contending that NY is a playoff team, but man do we need to open up the rotation. Randolph has lost all confidence on offense, but he's still a good rebounder and not a bad defender on the perimeter. Mozgov has been a breath of fresh air and could actually start for NY now that he's been practicing against the Stoudemire's and Turiaf's every day.
If I was Denver I'd ask for Landry Fields instead of Wilson Chandler as Fields has shown he a high IQ player and not a product of a system like Chandler. Denver could then send JR Smith to Minny they need a 2Guard and he might get some of what Beasley got in Minny.
Lawson-Fields-Afflalo-Brewer and 2 1st rounders this year is a good way at starting fresh they also have more tradable assets to get more talent
Nene to OKC for Green/Peterson/Krstic
Billups and Andersen to Orlando for Nelson and Bass
Martin's deal will expire giving them a lot of cap room to go along with this young core
Nelson-Afflalo-Green-Bass-Fields-Brewer-Lawson-2 1st-CAP Room
Just tweeted this-
Chris_Broussard Chris Broussard
Knicks, Nuggets, Twolves discussing 3-team trade. Melo to NYK; Chandler, Corey Brewer, Minny 1st rnd pick to Den; ECurry, ARandolph to Minny
Love this deal for the KNICKS!