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3 Questions - because I love to discuss the draft.

First, I'm generally a Bulls fan. I haven't liked their moves in going for the superstar, but it's hard to argue with their current success. This summer, I want them to trade Taj Gibson, their two late firsts and their conditional Charlotte pick to move into the mid to late lottery and an additional 2nd rounder. I want them to draft Alec Burks, David Lighty and Brad Wanamaker and then sign Josh McRoberts or the like to take Gibson's place. We'll see.

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1 - How awesome is Alec Burks? Seriously, I think he can be awesome. His biggest knocks are his shooting and defense. About his defense, I wonder if it's because he must exert so much energy and focus on the offensive side that he coasts on D. About his shooting, I'm convinced it won't be a long term probelm for a few reasons.
a) He has good form, although it's inconsistent
b) he shot decently last year and is a good free throw shooter
c) he has raised his 3-pt percentage over 30% in the last four or five games, despite an 0-4 game

2 - Can Lighty play SG and SF? Is he good enough on defense to be that ideal back-up SG/SF that can shoot 3's and defend?

3 - Can Chandler Parsons legitimately play SF and PF? Can he be a (for simplicity's sake) poor man's Luol Deng? Is there a different comparison you could make for him?

First time poster and pretty much just to ask these questions. What do you think?


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2. Lighty is a guy couple

2. Lighty is a guy couple months ago when I made thread about him people were saying he would be lucky to get drafted. If you look at the who helped/hurt their stock thread that will tell you what you need to know about him.

3.Chandler Parsons may be 1 of the most versatile players this year in the draft. I say at 6'10 he can play the 2/3, by all means he is no 4. Chandler is a wing player.....Best comparison I can give is taller less athletic Chase Budinger.

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Thanks

I hadn't seen enough of Parsons to know what all of his skills are. I was just thinking with his size he could probably play some PF. Guess not. I liked Chase Budinger a lot (even though a lot of others did not), so I'll take that comparison.

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I will add...

These are the three guys, plus Wanamaker, that I'd want the Bulls to draft. That is, if they could somehow get two top-5 2nd round draft picks, in addition to moving into the lottery to get Burks. The team, in... 3 years. (Name - age in 3 yrs)

Rose 25 - Wanamaker 24
Burks 22 - Lighty 25 - Wanamaker 24
Deng 28 - Parsons 24 - Lighty 25
Noah* 28 - McRoberts 28 - Parsons 24
Asik 27 - Noah 28 - some draft pick or veteran

*I should note that I realize that the vast majority of people would scoff at Noah and Asik on the court together. Personally, I believe in Noah's J juuuuust enough to get by on offense. But having Rose, Burks and Deng on offense would make them a pretty good offense, regardless, and that back-ups will all add something. Besides, who is going to score on that starting unit?

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1) I wish I had an answer to that but IDK shet about Burks.

2) Yes and Yes for Lighty. He should find a nice role in the NBA if he works at it.

3) Chandler Parsons looks like he is too slow to play the 3, but on the Bulls he might be able to thrive off of Pick and Pops with the MVP. And no, he is not anything like Loul Deng, but right now I can't think of a really good comparison. Right Handed Troy Murphy maybe?

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Troy Murphy/Parsons

Minus the rebounding and extra 1-2 inches. People, like me, forget that Murphy used to average a double-double.

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The Bulls have got various

The Bulls have got various draft options, combining their two draft picks this year is a decent idea and one I'd look at if they decided they wanted to trade up. I'd hang onto the Charlotte pick for as long as possible as that could yield a good player as the protection falls off that and combined with the Bulls own pick that year could push them right up the lottery.

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Why trade taj ( a legit

Why trade taj ( a legit starter who comes off the bench and produces who happens to be a big) for draft picks who are Gurunteed to be as good or better?

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Because there are tons of options at PF this summer.

UFA PFs or Cs.

Glen Davis
Nenad Kristic
Nazr Mohammed
Joel Przybilla
Tyson Chandler
Chris Wilcox
Chuck Hayes
Josh McRoberts
Craig Smith
Kris Humphries
Carly Landry
Reggie Evans

Most aren't as good as Taj. Some are better. Some will be too expensive, some won't. Point is, Gibson isn't irreplaceable.

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Was tryna say it like a

Was tryna say it like a Southerner " i guruntee"

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Teams will be willing to

Teams will be willing to trade down, especially if Taj is included in the deal. Alec Burks thou has a chance to be very good, but like the old saying says if it aint broke dont fix it. They traded James Johnson so they could have that 1st round pick late in the draft. They wanted that pick so they can fill a roster spot for X amount of years at X amount of cheap dollars. Think of when the Dallas Mavericks drafted Harris and Howard. They are trying to DRAFT role players who can fill their team needs and not costmuch money. Lighty would be a nice player to draft with that l;ate 1st, along with Buford, maybe a guy like Leuer to stretch out the floor, Klay Thompson, Marshon Brooks. Honestly I think Lighty would be a great fit.

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I think Lighty would be a great fit, too.

And he doesn't have starting potential on the Bulls in this defined role. If the Bulls go that route, I'm not against it. I've just seen enough of Burks this year that I think he could make the back-court with Rose something truly special.

I think keeping the picks and taking guys like Lighty are the safer picks with the higher floor. I think trading them and taking a chance, is the riskier move that could make them a truly special dynasty.

I don't think they got the Miami pick strictly to get a player. I think it is to "have an asset." If it's something they can throw in in a trade. Great. If they have to use it, great.

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This makes no sense. You

This makes no sense. You wanna trade Taj Gibson, who is more efficient than Boozer, for a mid first rounder, and draft Alec Burks. Lets just say, for the sake of conversation, Burks isnt that great as a rookie. Now we have 4 shooting guards, none of whom are actually any good. When people talk about improving the Bulls, they talk about drafting a SG. No. That would be dumb. Theres no good SGs in this draft, and a mid to late rounder would just add to the Bogans/Brewer/Korver mix of mediocrity. If they are going to upgrade SG, then sign a legitimate one through free agency.

David Lighty is like 24, and hes a college role player. No, i dont see him doing anything in the NBA. Parsons is interesting, but i dont know if he has any standout quality that will keep him in the league.

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A couple of problems.

First, I should have mentioned that my number one choice would be to try trade Brewer/Korver/Taj picks for either Iggy or Kevin Martin if they were available. That's unlikely, though.

Second, Gibson is not more efficient than Boozer, and there is absolutely no single fact would back that claim up.

Third, Bogans is only signed for this year. Korver, Brewer and Watson are only guaranteed through next year. Burks could sit on the bench and learn for a year, and if he's ready, they can let those other guys go. No glut at guard. If he's not, then they keep those guys around another year, and since Burks isn't good enough yet, still no glut.

Fourth, the Bulls won't have enough money to sign a "legitimate" SG free agency.

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Point is, Alec Burks isnt

Point is, Alec Burks isnt worth it. Especially combining the Charlotte-sure fire lottery pick.

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You're guaranteeing me that Charlotte doesn't make the playoffs?

They might not get that pick for five years.

And sorry, this wasn't supposed to be about the Bulls. I should have left that out. I was more interested in what the general feeling of Burks, Lighty and Parsons was.

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parsons to me is a poor mans

parsons to me is a poor mans hedo

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Parsons - Mike Miller?

Parsons - Mike Miller?

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i say hedo becuz parsons can

i say hedo becuz parsons can handle the rock really well, rebound, shoot, and score...and hes a good passer

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i say hedo becuz parsons can

i say hedo becuz parsons can handle the rock really well, rebound, shoot, and score...and hes a good passer

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i say hedo becuz parsons can

i say hedo becuz parsons can handle the rock really well, rebound, shoot, and score...and hes a good passer

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Look at the Bulls defensive

Look at the Bulls defensive numbers with and without Boozer.

Alec Burks wont be anything special...he couldnt even get his team into the tourney. And theres no doubt in my mind as a rookie he would bring nothing to the table more than getting spot minutes behind Brewer and Korver. The Bulls dont need a player for the future. And also, at the MLE they could get a player way better than Burks. And the fact you put Burks in the same argument as "Dynasty" is a joke too, you have no clue if this guy has any potential to be an impact guy let alone effect a dynasty. The Bulls need to draft another forward, hopefully a 3/4 guy who can give Deng some rest and provide insurance for the bigs since Thomas is on his last legs.

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