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  • #59064
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    casey38ray
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     1) Do Kentucky develop their players? – If you look at it you can make a case that they don’t develop their players. Look at John Wall, DeMarcus Cousins, Eric Bledsoe, and Brandon Knight they didn’t develop to the players they were supposed to be until their 3rd/4th years in the league. They were the player that they were in high school. John Wall still played ran at one speed, DeMarcus Cousins was still settling for ineffective shots, and so on. You can make a case in Anthony Davis and Derrick Rose (Memphis), but you can make a case that playing in Chicago help prepare them for the NBA. So they are outliers. And some recent players haven’t develop yet either in Alex Poythris ( projected top 10 pick 2 years ago ), MKG, Harrison Twins ( projected as lottery picks, Andrew top 5 ), and Marquis Teague. I’m not saying Kentucky is a bad program, I’m saying they don’t develop players as advertised. 

    2) 2014 NBA Draft – Some people have called this draft a bust because everyone not putting up LeBron James, Kevin Durant, and Derrick Rose type numbers/impact in rookie year. But people need to look at the injuries that happened. Joel Embiid, Jabari Parker, and  Julius Randle are out for the season. Marcus Smart, Aaron Gordon, abd Doug McDermott missed significant amount of time. And also, Dario Saric is currently playing overseas. And when Jabari Parker was playing he was looking like by far the rookie of the year. He was shooting about 70% from the field in his final 6-7 games before he got injured and his numbers was going up. Jason Kidd was playing him more and giving him the ball.

    3) Positional Rankings –

    PG:                                     SG:                             SF:

    1) Stephen Curry.            1) James Harden.    1) LeBron James

    2) Russell Westbrook.    2) Klay Thompson.  2) Kevin Durant

    3) John Wall.                   3) Jimmy Butler.      3) Carmelo Anthony

    4) Chris Paul.                   4) Dwyane Wade.    4) Kawhi Leonard

    5) Damien Lillard.           5) Monte Ellis.          5) Chandler Parson

    6) Kyle Lowry                  6) DeMar DeRozan  6) Rudy Gay

    7) Kyrie Irving.                7) Gordon Hayward  7) Tobias Harris         

    8) Jeff Teague.               8) Wesley Matthews 8) Giannis 

    9) Mike Conley.              9) Bradley Beal.         9) Wilson Chandler

    10) Brandon Knight.     10) Tyreke Evans.    10) Jeff Green

    PF:                                   C:                                      Snubs:

    1) Anthony Davis.         1) DeMarcus Cousins.   1) Ty Lawson 

    2) LaMarcus Aldrich.   2) Marc Gasol.                2) Tony Parker

    3) Blake Griffin.             3) Al Horford.                  3) Kemba Walker

    4) Pau Gasol                 4) DeAndre Jordan.        4) Nene

    5) Chris Bosh.               5) Andrew Bogut.            5) Greg Monroe

    6) Tim Duncan.            6) Nikola Vucevic

    7) Paul Millsap.            7) Marcin Gortat

    8) Zach Randolph.       8) Hassan Whiteside 

    9) Dirk Nowitzki.           9) Andre Drummond

    10) Draymon Greene. 10) Tyson Chandler

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #965683
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    zcnumerouno
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    Keep in mind that all those Kentucky players were one-and-done players. 18/19-year-old kids aren’t going to develop like kids at Wisconsin who stay all four years,

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    • #965687
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      casey38ray
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       I gave you an example of a Kentucky player that stayed 3 years ( Alex Poythris ). All I hear is Coach Cal " develops " the best players to the NBA. I don’t see it when there’s places like UCLA, Michigan, etc…. that develop players that unheralded college players to NBA players. It’s easy when you have 6 players that’s been ranked in top 20 in the recruiting class. I don’t see Kentucky develop guys as other programs do.

       

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    • #965835
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       I gave you an example of a Kentucky player that stayed 3 years ( Alex Poythris ). All I hear is Coach Cal " develops " the best players to the NBA. I don’t see it when there’s places like UCLA, Michigan, etc…. that develop players that unheralded college players to NBA players. It’s easy when you have 6 players that’s been ranked in top 20 in the recruiting class. I don’t see Kentucky develop guys as other programs do.

       

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  • #965831
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    zcnumerouno
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    Keep in mind that all those Kentucky players were one-and-done players. 18/19-year-old kids aren’t going to develop like kids at Wisconsin who stay all four years,

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    TWILL123
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    Kentucky definitely does not develop players into great NBA players. They’ve just had 20+ mcdonalds all americans over the past 5 years. Some are bound to turn into superstars (Davis, Cousins, Wall), while some will end up as flame outs who never make it in the NBA (Lamb, Teague, Orton).

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    • #965739
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       It bound to happen when you get the number one recruit every year and backing that up with a minimal of 4 other top 20 recruits a year.

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       It bound to happen when you get the number one recruit every year and backing that up with a minimal of 4 other top 20 recruits a year.

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  • #965857
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    TWILL123
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    Kentucky definitely does not develop players into great NBA players. They’ve just had 20+ mcdonalds all americans over the past 5 years. Some are bound to turn into superstars (Davis, Cousins, Wall), while some will end up as flame outs who never make it in the NBA (Lamb, Teague, Orton).

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  • #965935
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    I don’t think that Calipari is the only coach that does not fully develop his players. Bill Self is just as guilty as i haven’t seen any development in the last couple waves of players he’s had. My god just look at Wayne Selden, what the heck is Self doing down there?

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  • #965788
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    I don’t think that Calipari is the only coach that does not fully develop his players. Bill Self is just as guilty as i haven’t seen any development in the last couple waves of players he’s had. My god just look at Wayne Selden, what the heck is Self doing down there?

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    • #965955
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      casey38ray
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       That what happens when players want to play with players that’s highly recruited.

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    • #965808
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       That what happens when players want to play with players that’s highly recruited.

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  • #966015
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    tuck243
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    Every player there has almost flamed out…  Luckily Harrison Barnes stepped up because it was Ray Felton, Ty Lawson, and a player no one thought would be good, Danny Green…  Yet, none of them are All-Stars or score over 20 points a game…  

    The truth is, almost every college team has it’s "busts", but rarely do you see teams with good – great players…  Duke is a school that had it’s recent busts (Austin Rivers, yes I’m calling it now, smh) but Coach K has also produced Kyrie and Parker recently…  

    I think it’s more luck than anything else unless players go to their school and their stock drop…IE: Cuse, Texas, and UNC…

     

      

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  • #965868
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    Every player there has almost flamed out…  Luckily Harrison Barnes stepped up because it was Ray Felton, Ty Lawson, and a player no one thought would be good, Danny Green…  Yet, none of them are All-Stars or score over 20 points a game…  

    The truth is, almost every college team has it’s "busts", but rarely do you see teams with good – great players…  Duke is a school that had it’s recent busts (Austin Rivers, yes I’m calling it now, smh) but Coach K has also produced Kyrie and Parker recently…  

    I think it’s more luck than anything else unless players go to their school and their stock drop…IE: Cuse, Texas, and UNC…

     

      

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