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2nd best BIGMAN????

I think everyone agrees that Ayton is the best Big in the draft. But what I want to know is who does everyone like as the second best Bigman?

Bagley?

J Jackson?

Bamba?

each one has a different stregth and weakness about yheir game. each was has some very nice upside. So who do you guys lke as the 2nd best overall Bigman prospect??

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I'm going to go with Mo

I'm going to go with Mo Bamba
Hard working and smart kid, has already made huge improvements to his mechanics in the off-season
Add that to his measurables and you've got something special

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I love his upside, but with

I love his upside, but with Thon Maker having a similar build and not making much of an impact, I worry if Bamba will have some of the same struggles. Particularly rebounding. But damn Bamba on defense protecting the rim would be awesome.

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Call me crazy, im still not

Call me crazy, im still not sold on Ayton. I like Bambas defensive potential and i think hes the big man that can really transform a team. Id be taking Doncic if i won the lottery and Bamba would be my 5, even if that means you draft Ayton and trade, as Ainge did with Fultz and Tatum last year

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Hate to be that guy but I

Hate to be that guy but I think its all situational. Guys gotta be put in the right situation. Whoever goes to Dallas should have a great careeer. Whoever goes to Sacramento may struggle.

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A Dennis Smith Jr and Bagley

A Dennis Smith Jr and Bagley tandem would be pretty damn promising Dallas' future.

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It might actually be Wendell

It might actually be Wendell Carter. The knock on him was always that he lacked top-shelf mobility and athleticism but he has gotten himself into better shape in the past year and is actually more athletic than he gets credited for. He’s more developed offensively than Jackson or bamba and I think he has more defensive potential than Bagley due to his superior length. He has good passing instincts and a developing outside jumper with the potential to develop into a stretch five. There is a lot of similarities to Al Horford in his game.

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Yeah I had thought about

Yeah I had thought about including WC. I should have. Horford is a great comparison though.

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Bagley

I think Bagley will be the best of the group that you mentioned. It wouldn't even surprise me if became the best player in the draft. People are underrating him big time. He projects more as a power forward than a center with the ability to switch onto smaller or bigger guys defensively. Offensively he needs to sharpen up some of his skills instead of relying on his athelticsim. I see him being a 20-10 guy for many years at the level of a Bosh.

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Bagley is potentially the

Bagley is potentially the biggest upside. Carter could be the safest pick, Jackson is the youngest of the guys and Bamba has the defensive potential.

A lot depends which team is picking where, lets say the Cavs move up. You could think they may go for upside or defence but Carter doing a defined role could appeal to them more for example.

My order at the moment is:-

Bagley
Bamba
Carter
Jackson

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the question that should be

the question that should be asked is: what do you rather have?

1. do you want a player with the potential to be an all-star and average 20pts/10rb for many years, but that won't get you further than a 1st round in playoffs as your franchise player? that is, a player ala Chris Bosh.

2. do you want a player with the potential to be a perennial all defensive team and DPY candidate that will never be your franchise player, but might be the so needed piece to make your team a championship contender in the near future? that is, a player ala Mutombo, Capela or Gobert.

3. do you want a player with the potential to be a 2 way player that has a few chances to be your franchise player that could take you far in the playoffs, but that today looks pretty raw and would be a great risk to select him that high? because if you roll the dice, would you get a Shawn Kemp or an Stromile Swift?

Personally for me it's clear; i would not take option 3, because even though Jaren Jackson has all the tools needed to succeed in today's NBA, he's very raw and this draft has very unique players you don't want to miss; so if it was another year's draft may be i'd roll the dice but not in this one, as for every Shawn Kemp there are plenty of Stromile Swift, Tyrus Thomas, Marquese Chriss or Kwame Brown's out there...

I would not take the 1st option either, because if i was a general manager i'd try to be competitive as soon as possible so i'd want to save steps; if i know that Bagley is a very talented player that will be an all-star but won't get me further than 1st round in playoffs, why would i lose that much time selecting him? if i had a top3 pick i would not waste my time with a Chris Bosh, Kevin Love or Cousins type of franchise player, specially considering the amount of unique talent in this class.

so personally i'd take option 2, as it is clear that even though in today's NBA you need 3PT shooters in order to keep with the scoring pace, the most important thing to win in playoffs is defense; if you are a top10 defensive team it means you have 90% chances of making the playoffs; if you are a top5 defensive team you have many chances to advance at least to semifinals and if the team is well balanced, you might become a contender so by taking Mo Bamba, i would have the chance to be a contender if surrounded with the right pieces.

Bamba is such a unique player, he has same Rudy Gobert's standing reach and defensive potential but with more intriguing potential, as it seems he could stretch the floor and he also is faster and more mobile than Gobert which makes him an even better P&R defender.

sure he could finally end up being a bust, but if i have to roll the dice i rather do it with a player like Bamba, which can give you something very few players on the planet can.

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Jackson is already a good

Jackson is already a good shooter and defender. He didn't produce like he could have in East Lansing but he still showed flashes of big time ability.

The playoffs this season have shown how important it is to have versatile defenders. I would say Jackson could be the safest and also have one of the highest upsides.

Bagley will be the best scorer. Bamba should be the best shot blocker. But I think Jaren Jackson Jr. will give you enough of both to make him more valuable long term.

Carter will be a solid pro but I don't know if he has the ceiling of the other 3.

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Bagley. The guy is going to

Bagley. The guy is going to have Bosh/Aldridge type impact early. Both of those guys were putting up 17 & 7 by their 2nd year, I think he's going to do so right out of the gate. As stated above, I'd love to see him with DSJ under Carlisle in Dallas. He could also be good in Memphis if they're going to keep Conley and Gasol around.

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See him as a 4 more than a 5,

See him as a 4 more than a 5, but feel he's as close to a can't miss as there is in this draft.

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Bagley is kind of a hard

Bagley is kind of a hard player to project for me. On one hand, I love his motor and energy. He has excellent natural athleticism and ability to run the floor. He gets off the floor faster than almost any player I’ve seen his size. On the other hand, he dominated almost strictly off his athleticism in college and his overall skillset leaves a lot to be desired. I don’t really know what he does particularly well at this stage besides being taller and an a superior athlete to the majority of defenders who guarded him. To his credit, he didn’t over complicate things and took advantage of his athleticism as he should have in college, but he will not be nearly as successful playing that way in the nba.

I get the comparisons to bosh due to his physical profile and being left-handed and all but I see him as more comparable to guys like Shawn kemp or amare stoudemire that came into the nba strictly as raw athletes and developed their skill sets as their careers progressed. He could certainly develop into a big time scorer at the next level but I think it will require a good deal of patience. The other issue I have is I’m not sure he has the defensive versatility of someone like Jackson and he definitely doesn’t project as the type of difference maker bamba could be on that end. He may be a guy that you kind of have to work around defensively.

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Bamba is my number one big

Bamba is my number one big man and my top overall pick.

I keep going back and forth on who my 2nd best big man is, right now though I have Ayton ahead of Bagley at the moment. The other day I had Bagley ahead of Ayton.

Here is my updated mock lotto big board:

1. Bamba

2. Porter, Jr.

3. Ayton

4. Bagley

5. Mikal Bridges

6. Collin Sexton

7. Trae Young

8. Jaren Jackson, Jr.

9. Luka Doncic

10. Kevin Knox

11. Mitchell Robinson

12. Wendell Carter, Jr.

13. Robert Williams III

14. Donte Inferno

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Memphis, i commend you for

Memphis, i commend you for mixing it up. Very ballsy to call Doncic at 9, i think you got carried away there. I wouldnt be majorly shocked to see Mikal Bridges, Shai Gilgeous-Alexander or Zhaire Smith sneak in the top 8. I am updating my mock after the lotto, so you can compare, and although i dont think there are many on your wavelength and i dont agree with some picks, i see your point so well done on throwing it up there

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Anyone changing eir minds on

Anyone changing thr minds on this list yet?

I must admitt I am growing more and more fond of what I am hearing about M Bamba.

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I agree. I think the NBA is

I agree. I think the NBA is leaning towards Bamba. Seems like a good fit with the Hawks as well as a true C to nround out thier frontcourt with Prince, Collins and Bamba. Gives them 3 players up front that can all play 2 positions in theory.

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