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21 yr old Lebron vs 21 yr old Durant

Gotta say KD no?

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Hmm.. I'd still say

Hmm.. I'd still say LeBron

LeBron, 31ppg, 7rpg, 6apg, 1.6spg

Durant, 30ppg, 7rpg, 2.8apg

LeBron's passing ability makes him better.

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LeBron was better then and

LeBron was better then and now. LeBron was putting up like 31-7-6 on a below average Cleveland team. Mind you, before this season LeBron never played with a #2.Also, LeBron hit several game winning baskets and shown he's solid late. Durant hasn't yet. He's hit a couple game winners but is not "clutch" at the level LeBron was.

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I'm going with Lebron.

I'm going with Lebron.

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Lebron

I will take lebron he just did more for his team and his numbers are better. And that team in cleveland didnt have as much talent as the thunder.

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I would've said LeBron then

I would've said LeBron then and now. At 21 Years Old he looked to have so much potential, not that KD doesn't, but LeBron to me just seemed like he could've learned and mastered so much more... His offensive game outside the paint is still streaky and questionable. J

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Surprisingly they have very

Surprisingly they have very similar stats at age 21 ..Lebron averaged 31 points-7 boards-6 assists-shot 48% from the field and 34% from 3 point range..Lebron's Cavs lost to the heavy favorite Pistons in the Conference Finals..

Durant averaged 30 points-7 boards-2 steals-46.7% from the field and 36% from 3 arc..Durant's OKC team lost to the mighty Lakers in the 1st round....

People may Dislike Lebron all they want, but he came into the league more hyped than any player in history and showed alot of maturity until his overhyped decision this past summer...

Everyone has jumped on Durant's bandwagon..Just like they jumped on Tracy McGrady's bandwagon a few years ago..Some folks were even saying T-Mac was better than Kobe..

But people who have followed and really understand the game of basketball knows Lebron is the more dominate player..

When both their careers are done Lebron will be considered 1 of the top 10 players of alltime..While Durant will be mentioned as 1 of the top 25 players of alltime...

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Neither

I choose a third option: 32 yr old Kobe Bryant

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LBJ

I'd take Lebron.

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at those ages I would take

at those ages I would take Lebron but I think in a few Years Durant will have us lending more his way.

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LeBron

Honestly, I think the fact that Durant scored more than LeBron did last year is the only reason people even have this conversation. LeBron had really 0 ability to rebuild in Cleveland, his team immediately went from being one of the leagues worst to a team that had the 10th pick in the following years draft (compared to OKC's 4th and 3rd pick during Durant's first couple years). Durant is a better shooter than LeBron, but LeBron does so many other things better than he does, and their court vision is not even comparable. Durant is difficult to guard due to his ridiculous length, but LeBron is so much more athletic and so much stronger than he is, and while his speed/athleticism might not last forever, his strength will. I think that people honestly want there to be a player coming up who will be better than LeBron, but I for the life of me do not see it. I do not see Kevin Durant averaging 35 points per game and sweeping up a huge line of MVP's. LeBron has yet to lose a first round play-off series, he led his team to the finals in his 4th season. Yes, they play in different scenario's and in different conferences, but LeBron can kill you in so many more different aspects than Durant (passing, scoring, defense, not as far as offensive skill set, whereas LeBron still shoots a higher percentage from the field due to the fact he is the best finisher at the basket in the NBA). These are all things you do not even say in hindsight, because he was doing it when he was 21 and is improving now. People may not like LeBron, you can even say you maybe think Kevin Durant will be the better player down the road (I do not agree, but I could see how it might be predicted), but at 21, LeBron James was a better player than Kevin Durant. There seasons at that age (both of there 3rd years in the league) were maybe somewhat similar, but look at the play-off numbers. Durant shot 35% in that Lakers series, averaged 25 per game and 7.7 boards, and that was definitely still considered not a complete breakdown, but obviously was well below his averages. LeBron averaged 30.8, 8 boards and 5.8 assists, on 47% shooting through 13 play-off games (even taking a much better Detroit game into a 7th game). What exactly makes Durant better at the same age? You can argue that he could progress more than LeBron has, that is your perogative, but what makes Durant better at the same age? LeBron also did really well in the World Championships, where the competition was a lot more fierce than this past summer, so, got ya there :)

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I'd say MikeyV pretty much

I'd say MikeyV pretty much summed up my thoughts exactly.

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Actually come to think about

Actually come to think about it, I'd like to elaborate on one of his points. Part of Lebron's problem in Cleveland was that he is capable of making a team a contender by himself. They had one lottery pick after his rookie year, and used it on Luke Jackson, passing up Al Jefferson, Josh Smith, Jr. Smith, etc. Cleveland probably would have been better off if he hadn't improved them so much so early, and they had gotten a few more years to really build through the draft.

All the hate Lebron is getting is making a lot of people forget what a special, unique talent he is.

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If Durant can do that w/out

If Durant can do that w/out Westbrook I'd take him but a top 10 or 15 PG really helps.

I'll go with Lebron.

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LeBron

I think a lot guys are letting your hatred of LeBron get to you. I don't like LeBron, but I am still not biased. LeBron was te better player at the age of 21. These are there stats in their 3rd seasons.

LeBron - 31.4 ppg, 7 rpg, 6.6 apg, 1.6 spg, 0.7 bpg

Durant - 30.1 ppg, 7.6 rpg, 2.8 apg, 1.4 spg, 1 bpg

LeBron was the better all-around player, wich makes him better in my books.

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As long as Durant handles his free agency decision

better in 5 years from now. then Durantula all day.

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I think in a few years Howard

I think in a few years Howard and Durant will battle it out for the 2nd best player in the league spot both them guys being able to dominate in different ways but neither having the complete skill set of Bron

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This question needs to be changed

Who will be better at 30 yrs old? Durantula or "The Mistake"?

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Durant is a great player and

Durant is a great player and possible future MVP, but lets face it Lebron is a whole other animal. Without Durant just leading the USA to gold and seaming more humble and likeable, while Lebron made a bad "decision" and can't stop acting like a dick lately we wouldn't even have this post.

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LeBron... Too much ball

LeBron... Too much ball handling and playmaking ability.

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lebron for sure. Durant is an

lebron for sure. Durant is an animal on the offensive end but lebron is alot more versatile, and his defense is far more superior to durants, Not Knocking Durant but 'Bron has to be the choice every time

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It's worth noting though,

It's worth noting though, that Lebron's defense wasn't near as good as it is now when he was 21. So it's unfair to compare Durant's d to Lebron's d right now.

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How do you go from averaging

How do you go from averaging 31 at 21 yrs old to averaging 20.7 at 25 yrs old.

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How do you go from averaging

How do you go from averaging 31 at 21 yrs old to averaging 20.7 at 25 yrs old.

Hmmm...better teammates? Just a thought.

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Yeah key word better.

Yeah key word better.

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This is a unfair compairison

This is a unfair compairison to me because Lebron has played more and no matter what folks say that affects their opinion. I will try my best to be objective on the question myself though.

LBJ at 21

pros- physically superior,better handle,better passer, good scorer

cons- poor shooting(3pt, and free throw),lazy on ball defense,high turnover-assit ratio, at times played smaller than his size

KD at 21

pros- Great scorer, unlimited range, good athelet, good on ball defender, plays within team

cons- Has questionable shot selection at times, doesn't create for others as much as he could, underacheiving on ball defender, too many turnovers to not be a primary ball handler

For his physical ability alone who wouldnt take Lebron, how the game is structured for offensive players. Now,does KD at 21 have skills that could make him just as valuable,yes. But if im coaching LBJ is my pick.

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i hate lebron james

Give me Durant and go back in history to see what wins you championships: Solid team with a pure scorer. Larry Bird, MJ, Kobe are my prime examples. And I just hate geebron (at least I admit it)

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Give me Durant and go back in

Give me Durant and go back in history to see what wins you championships: Solid team with a pure scorer. Larry Bird, MJ, Kobe are my prime examples. And I just hate geebron (at least I admit it)

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Actually Bird was no more of a pure scorer than Lebron. Yes they both could score at will but Bird also consistantly averaged more than six and a half assists per game in his prime. Bird actually put up numbers very similiar to LBJ during his career; 28.1 PPG, 7.6 APG and 9.2 RPG in 1987, 28.7 PPG, 6.6 APG and 10.5 RPG in 1985 and 24.3 PPG, 7.5 APG 9.5 RPG in 1990 when he was 33 years old!

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I like how you didnt mention

I like how you didnt mention magic or isiah guys who werent pure scorers that won championships. And MJ, Bird and Kobe do more than just score

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Also, Lebron has scored a

Also, Lebron has scored a lot. Even more than several players who people classify as "better scorers." Lebron may not be a "pure scorer," but he has averaged 27ppg over his career while shooting very efficiently and that's pure enough for me.

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Had no idea those dudes did more than score, thanks for that update. And of course I didn't mention Magic, Isaih, Tim Duncan etc. cuz they weren't examples of what I was talking about. There is more than one way to win a championship, but having a pure scoring superstar on a solid team is clearly the way to go these days. Unless if you have 3 superstars, which is the exception.

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pure scorer

LeBron is great at scoring the basketball but he is more of a do-it-all players versus a pure scorer like melo, KD, kobe

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apb did you put kobe as just

apb did you put kobe as just a scorer? do you watch basketball?

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Is there even one thing that

Is there even one thing that durant can do better than lebron? because i see a couple that lebron can do better than durant( overall defense, court vision, ballhandling, clutch, strength, quickness, etc)

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Durant is more comparable to

Durant is more comparable to carmelo, not lebron

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How is KD more a pure scorer

How is KD more a pure scorer than Lebron when Lebron averages more points? Yeah KD shoots better, but Lebron scores more and more efficiently

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Pure scorer means that the

Pure scorer means that the player scores with less effort than most. They are good at shooting, driving, spot up shooting, posting up, and getting to the free throw line. Lebron is better at doing most of those things than KD, but KD is more efficent at doing those things. To me that makes him a better scorer. And i wish everyone would stop saying Lebron is a good defender, he is not, he has not been a good defender. He plays lazy on ball defense, takes many unecessary risks, and because he got a few blocks running guys down he became a all league defender??? The all NBA defense list has turned into the equivilant of the golden glove for baseball. But im gonna save this opinion for another discussion

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Lebron has become a much

Lebron has become a much better defender, he is much more focused than he used to be. He has been playing very good D from what I've seen this year, and he locked down Pierce in the playoffs.

Also, explain how Durant is more efficient at doing those things when he shoots a worse percentage from the floor. Just because he looks prettier scoring doesn't make him more efficient.

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He is more effiecent because

He is more effiecent because without having the ball in his hands every play he can and will have the opportunity to score. Off cuts, coming off picks to shoot. I personally would take his effiency, its tough to win with the ball in one guys hands most of the time. How does a team get involved when everything is based on one player dominating the ball. And, I have yet to see LBJ in a structured offense, so that is taking into consideration as well. No, he isnt a good defender, doing it a few times when you play the lakers, OKC, or boston doesn't make you a good defender. It takes a great mental effort to be dominate on D. Can he be, yes. But he isn't. He hasn't be consistant. The fact that you are naming instances that he did play defense proves my point.

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That's crap. No star

That's crap. No star offensive player in this day and age puts forth their maximum effort on D all the time. Kobe doesn't do it, Lebron doesn't do it. Their teams rely on them too much on offense for them to expend all their energy on D.

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So you awknoledge my point

So you awknoledge my point that i made then. It wasnt just about LBJ, all nba defense is a joke,just like the gold glove award.

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Well no I don't, I think you

Well no I don't, I think you have unfair standards. It's not like everyone is capable of playing balls to the wall defense for 82 straight games plus playoffs. That's just unrealistic for any star player.

By current NBA standards, Lebron is a very good defender.

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Durant is a better 3 pt

Durant is a better 3 pt shooter and free throw shooter than Lebron. Also Durant is a lil better at getting to the free throw line. If Lebron shot free throws at 88% he'd have the scoring title last year. I wonder what Lebron would be like if he played off the ball and let a pure passing PG set him up.

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durant

yes i take durant cause i cant stand bron durant is the type of player i wanna bulit my team around because of his characther as much as his ability on the court while the bnoat was having his days of our lebron durant quietly signed his extension showin his loyalty and respect of his team and thats the type of player i want as my franchise player

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Durant!!!! look at the

Durant

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