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- Posted on: Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:41am #24059
mikeyvthedonParticipantJust wanted to know how people feel about prospects by position right now. I guess I will just do a top 10 by position (By likely position they play in the NBA) and who I see as being the best prospect down the line. Also, I will try to separate by players I feel will enter this years draft, as opposed to down the line. Feel free to make your own list or berate mine with players I left out (I am sure I will). I can also take a good old fashioned debate on who should go where. Here it goes:
PG
1. Kyrie Irving: Still think he leaves, still think he is the best.
2. Brandon Knight
3. Kemba Walker
4. Josh Selby
5. Malik Wayns
6. Jimmer Freddette
7. Demetri McCamey
8. Shelvin Mack
9. Kalin Lucas
10. Corey Fisher
SG
1. Tyler Honeycutt
2. Alec Burks
3. Jordan Hamilton
4. Travis Leslie
5. William Buford
6. Klay Thompson
7. Durrell Summers
8. Nolan Smith
9. LaceDarius Dunn
10. Austin Freeman
SF
1. Harrison Barnes
2. Terrence Jones
3. Jan Vesely
4. Tobias Harris
5. Kyle Singler
6. Chris Singleton
7. Kris Joseph
8. Elias Harris
9. Kawhi Leonard
10. Wesley Witherspoon
PF
1. Perry Jones
2. Jared Sullinger
3. Donatas Motiejunas
4. Derrick Williams
5. John Henson
6. Renardo Sidney
7. Trey Thompkins
8. Tristan Thompson
9. Marcus Morris
10. Kenneth Faried
C
1. Enes Kanter
2. Jonas Valanciunas
3. Keith Benson
4. Mason Plumlee
5. Jeremy Tyler
6. Alex Oriakhi
7. Tyler Zeller
8. Aaric Murray
9. Dejan Musli
10. Festus Ezeli
Again, I more than likely left somebody out due to the fact that I did not feel they were going to enter the draft (Will Barton, Jereme Richmond, Jeff Taylor, Fab Melo, John Jenkins, Cory Joseph, Josh Smith, Malcolm Lee, Rodney Williams all fall in this category). I am not at all concrete in my list at this point, so criticize away and let the fun begin.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/15/2010 - 7:04pm #459172
Mike23456Participanti like your list only problem is honeycutts not to SG but a really good SF
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/15/2010 - 7:04pm #459189
Mike23456Participanti like your list only problem is honeycutts not to SG but a really good SF
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/15/2010 - 9:14pm #459232
RUDEBOY_ParticipantLove your List..
1.I think Honeycut is a little overrated..He isnt a very good ball handler,needs to get stronger and he cant create his own shot..Some say he’s lottery..I say early 2nd round…
2.Chandler Parsons should be among the 10 top small forwards prospects..
3.Singleton’s stock is raising..Dont be surprised to see him go in the top 10…
4.If Tristan Thompson had a post game and better shooting skills,to add to his shot blocking and rebounding are off the charts..He’ll be a top 5 pick..But i think he should return for 1 more year to work on his offense..But if he came out he’s going in the mid to late 1st round…
5 Saturday will be a big day..Becuz Renaldo Sidney & Josh Selby make their debuts..If they play well this year they could move into the top 10…
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/15/2010 - 9:14pm #459249
RUDEBOY_ParticipantLove your List..
1.I think Honeycut is a little overrated..He isnt a very good ball handler,needs to get stronger and he cant create his own shot..Some say he’s lottery..I say early 2nd round…
2.Chandler Parsons should be among the 10 top small forwards prospects..
3.Singleton’s stock is raising..Dont be surprised to see him go in the top 10…
4.If Tristan Thompson had a post game and better shooting skills,to add to his shot blocking and rebounding are off the charts..He’ll be a top 5 pick..But i think he should return for 1 more year to work on his offense..But if he came out he’s going in the mid to late 1st round…
5 Saturday will be a big day..Becuz Renaldo Sidney & Josh Selby make their debuts..If they play well this year they could move into the top 10…
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/15/2010 - 9:33pm #459238
llperezwow, you think honeycutt is a second rounder? Hes got the length, athleticism, tthe jumper, the passing the rebounding, the defense and he does create his own shot very well. His ball handling has improved significantly form last year. Obviously like all young guys he needs to continue to put it all together, but theres not one thing about his game that worries me on whether or not it translates to the NBA.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/15/2010 - 9:33pm #459255
llperezwow, you think honeycutt is a second rounder? Hes got the length, athleticism, tthe jumper, the passing the rebounding, the defense and he does create his own shot very well. His ball handling has improved significantly form last year. Obviously like all young guys he needs to continue to put it all together, but theres not one thing about his game that worries me on whether or not it translates to the NBA.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/15/2010 - 9:35pm #459240
RUDEBOY_ParticipantYeah Honeycut is a little overrated..I think Travis Leslie will surprise some people….
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/15/2010 - 9:35pm #459257
RUDEBOY_ParticipantYeah Honeycut is a little overrated..I think Travis Leslie will surprise some people….
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/15/2010 - 9:38pm #459242
llperezwe’ll see. I think hes gonna go top 10. Game comes real easy to him and you never see him pressing to get his shot off. He just glides around on the court and stuffs the stats. Dont blame uclas tough start on him. Hes the best pro prosepct in the pac 10 and better then derrick williams in my book.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/15/2010 - 9:38pm #459259
llperezwe’ll see. I think hes gonna go top 10. Game comes real easy to him and you never see him pressing to get his shot off. He just glides around on the court and stuffs the stats. Dont blame uclas tough start on him. Hes the best pro prosepct in the pac 10 and better then derrick williams in my book.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/15/2010 - 9:45pm #459267
HaleParticipantBetter then Derrick Williams? IDK. What do you think Honeycutt will put up as a pro?
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/15/2010 - 9:45pm #459250
HaleParticipantBetter then Derrick Williams? IDK. What do you think Honeycutt will put up as a pro?
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/15/2010 - 9:46pm #459269
RUDEBOY_Participanthoneycutt seems timid at times…
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/15/2010 - 9:46pm #459252
RUDEBOY_Participanthoneycutt seems timid at times…
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/15/2010 - 9:52pm #459273
llperezas ive said all along, i think derrick williams will win the pac 10 player of the year. I have a ton of respect for williams and he has improven quite a bit from last year. But tyler can be something special. Some people say hes soft or not physical, but he is averaging 8.4 rebounds 2 blocks and you never see him getting pushed around out there. Hes the best interior defensive presenc eon the bruins. And he really aint all that skinny anymore. As for his timidness, he has gotten more aggressive. He just took 16 shots in his last game although he didnt shoot well. He was demanding the ball down the stretch against kansas when he dropped 33 on them. Hes still getting better too. Last season nobody was talking about him in the draft. If he came back for his junior year, he could potentially have an evan turner type season where he does it all.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/15/2010 - 9:52pm #459256
llperezas ive said all along, i think derrick williams will win the pac 10 player of the year. I have a ton of respect for williams and he has improven quite a bit from last year. But tyler can be something special. Some people say hes soft or not physical, but he is averaging 8.4 rebounds 2 blocks and you never see him getting pushed around out there. Hes the best interior defensive presenc eon the bruins. And he really aint all that skinny anymore. As for his timidness, he has gotten more aggressive. He just took 16 shots in his last game although he didnt shoot well. He was demanding the ball down the stretch against kansas when he dropped 33 on them. Hes still getting better too. Last season nobody was talking about him in the draft. If he came back for his junior year, he could potentially have an evan turner type season where he does it all.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/15/2010 - 10:45pm #459266
GrandmamaParticipantAlec Burks will be better than Tyler Honeycutt, you can take that to the bank.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/15/2010 - 10:45pm #459283
GrandmamaParticipantAlec Burks will be better than Tyler Honeycutt, you can take that to the bank.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:34pm #459272
llperezi havent seen burks play, but he must be pretty good.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:34pm #459289
llperezi havent seen burks play, but he must be pretty good.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/16/2010 - 7:01am #459350
JNixonParticipantI wouldn’t be surprised if Honeycutt went in the 2nd round either. He’s overrated to me to. Especially if you’re saying he’s a top 10 pick. Nothing about him is worthy of him being picked that high. I really don’t understand what makes him so much better than alot of other prospects. He seems like a prospect, but not one that’s worth lottery mention at all.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/16/2010 - 7:01am #459367
JNixonParticipantI wouldn’t be surprised if Honeycutt went in the 2nd round either. He’s overrated to me to. Especially if you’re saying he’s a top 10 pick. Nothing about him is worthy of him being picked that high. I really don’t understand what makes him so much better than alot of other prospects. He seems like a prospect, but not one that’s worth lottery mention at all.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/16/2010 - 7:09am #459358
midwestbbscoutParticipantdid anyone watch Kemba Walker go heads up against Brandon Knight??? B/c if so they would know this list has lost credibility….
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/16/2010 - 7:09am #459375
midwestbbscoutParticipantdid anyone watch Kemba Walker go heads up against Brandon Knight??? B/c if so they would know this list has lost credibility….
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/16/2010 - 7:16am #459366
SwatLakeCityParticipantAnd did anyone notice whatever happened to Travis Leslie in the mock draft. I looked all over but could not find him, even looked in 2012 draft still could not find him. I’m pulling for him to go to Utah either him or Jordan Hamilton. Utah could really using a 2 guard of that type of caliber.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/16/2010 - 7:16am #459383
SwatLakeCityParticipantAnd did anyone notice whatever happened to Travis Leslie in the mock draft. I looked all over but could not find him, even looked in 2012 draft still could not find him. I’m pulling for him to go to Utah either him or Jordan Hamilton. Utah could really using a 2 guard of that type of caliber.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/16/2010 - 7:23am #459372
SwatLakeCityParticipantNever mind Leslie is in the 2012 draft as #37, though why so low? He should come out this year, and his potential and the year he is having couldn’t have dropped him that low even if the 2012 class is really talented. He is a first round talent, so why does this site have him so low? I mean he gets around 8 boards a game and he’s undersized at 6’4!!! That should bump him up a bunch.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/16/2010 - 7:23am #459389
SwatLakeCityParticipantNever mind Leslie is in the 2012 draft as #37, though why so low? He should come out this year, and his potential and the year he is having couldn’t have dropped him that low even if the 2012 class is really talented. He is a first round talent, so why does this site have him so low? I mean he gets around 8 boards a game and he’s undersized at 6’4!!! That should bump him up a bunch.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/16/2010 - 7:31am #459384
mikeyvthedonParticipantMidwest, dude, these are prospect rankings. Kemba Walker has played fantastically well thus far, but I have a feeling Brandon Knight might project to being a higher pick in the draft. You obviously disagree, but Walker is under 6 feet and Knight is a big PG, might make a difference. Especially when you throw in concerns about either of them being legit PG’s to begin with. Nonetheless, while I do like you as a poster, you are always the guy who has that one negative sentence about what anyone has posted, lol. Also, with regards to Honeycutt, I would not say he is top 10, but he is not a second rounder in my opinion. I think this draft is very weak at SG, and Burks may indeed turn out to be a better prospect. But, has either of them thrilled you to the point where you say they are lotto locks? Still, Honeycutt is intriguing, he has a lot of length and that could make him a tough match-up as an SG. Yes, he needs to add strength and he is not a finished product, and maybe he is more of an SF, but to me in a class this weak at 2, he has a strong case as maybe being the first one off of the board. He has a nice shooting stroke andhis athleticism is pretty solid, plus he can handle the rock quite well.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/16/2010 - 7:31am #459401
mikeyvthedonParticipantMidwest, dude, these are prospect rankings. Kemba Walker has played fantastically well thus far, but I have a feeling Brandon Knight might project to being a higher pick in the draft. You obviously disagree, but Walker is under 6 feet and Knight is a big PG, might make a difference. Especially when you throw in concerns about either of them being legit PG’s to begin with. Nonetheless, while I do like you as a poster, you are always the guy who has that one negative sentence about what anyone has posted, lol. Also, with regards to Honeycutt, I would not say he is top 10, but he is not a second rounder in my opinion. I think this draft is very weak at SG, and Burks may indeed turn out to be a better prospect. But, has either of them thrilled you to the point where you say they are lotto locks? Still, Honeycutt is intriguing, he has a lot of length and that could make him a tough match-up as an SG. Yes, he needs to add strength and he is not a finished product, and maybe he is more of an SF, but to me in a class this weak at 2, he has a strong case as maybe being the first one off of the board. He has a nice shooting stroke andhis athleticism is pretty solid, plus he can handle the rock quite well.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/16/2010 - 9:04am #459424
Mr. 19134ParticipantI like the list and the only real problem I have with it is where I project some players to play in the pros.
And when you watch Knight and Walker go head to head don’t forget that Knight is still 18 and Walker is 21 they are huge years in development.
PG:
Irving
Selby
Walker
Knight
Waynes
SG:
Barnes (really think he could be most effective at shooting guard in the pro’s rolling off screens and using his length to shoot over people.)
Burcs (A year younger then the rest of the sophomores and despite JayNixon’s protest is developing at a nice rate)
Hamilton
Leslie
Honeycutt (his ceiling is Ariza is my book I’m not that high on him but he is def a 10-20 prospect for the draft.)
SF:
Terrence Jones
Perry Jones (think he will be most effective on the wing.)
Vessely
Tobias Harris
Singler
PF:
Sullinger
Montiejunas
Jeremy Tyler (how quickly we forgot who was the real number one prospect of this freshman class)
Derrick Williams
Marcus Morris
C:
Kanter
Valanciunus (has top 5 pick potential and might be the best pure post in the draft on both sides)
Plumlee
Aaric Murray (very underrated)
Keith Benson
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/16/2010 - 9:04am #459441
Mr. 19134ParticipantI like the list and the only real problem I have with it is where I project some players to play in the pros.
And when you watch Knight and Walker go head to head don’t forget that Knight is still 18 and Walker is 21 they are huge years in development.
PG:
Irving
Selby
Walker
Knight
Waynes
SG:
Barnes (really think he could be most effective at shooting guard in the pro’s rolling off screens and using his length to shoot over people.)
Burcs (A year younger then the rest of the sophomores and despite JayNixon’s protest is developing at a nice rate)
Hamilton
Leslie
Honeycutt (his ceiling is Ariza is my book I’m not that high on him but he is def a 10-20 prospect for the draft.)
SF:
Terrence Jones
Perry Jones (think he will be most effective on the wing.)
Vessely
Tobias Harris
Singler
PF:
Sullinger
Montiejunas
Jeremy Tyler (how quickly we forgot who was the real number one prospect of this freshman class)
Derrick Williams
Marcus Morris
C:
Kanter
Valanciunus (has top 5 pick potential and might be the best pure post in the draft on both sides)
Plumlee
Aaric Murray (very underrated)
Keith Benson
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/16/2010 - 8:24pm #459892
llperezhoneycutts cieling is ariza? A coule people dont htink hes a first rounder even? SMH, i guess we will have to wait and see. As for the ariza comparison, it doesnt fit. Honeycutts capable of being better in every faze of the game except maybe defense and honeycutts not bad in that aspect either. Hes a better shooter, passer and interior presence right now.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/16/2010 - 8:24pm #459909
llperezhoneycutts cieling is ariza? A coule people dont htink hes a first rounder even? SMH, i guess we will have to wait and see. As for the ariza comparison, it doesnt fit. Honeycutts capable of being better in every faze of the game except maybe defense and honeycutts not bad in that aspect either. Hes a better shooter, passer and interior presence right now.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/16/2010 - 8:29pm #459896
JNixonParticipantI would compare Honeycutt to a less scrappy/aggressive Landry Fields.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/16/2010 - 8:29pm #459913
JNixonParticipantI would compare Honeycutt to a less scrappy/aggressive Landry Fields.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/16/2010 - 8:32pm #459898
llpereztheres some comparioson there. BUt tyler has much more potential as a shooter. He has a very solid release with NBA range right now and should only get better from long range. Fields has quicker feet and is much more active moving around the court but was never a big deep threat in 4 years of college.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/16/2010 - 8:32pm #459915
llpereztheres some comparioson there. BUt tyler has much more potential as a shooter. He has a very solid release with NBA range right now and should only get better from long range. Fields has quicker feet and is much more active moving around the court but was never a big deep threat in 4 years of college.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/16/2010 - 8:34pm #459900
llperezyou planning on watching ucla/byu on saturday iggy?
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/16/2010 - 8:34pm #459917
llperezyou planning on watching ucla/byu on saturday iggy?
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/16/2010 - 8:35pm #459902
JNixonParticipantYES. I haven’t seen Jimmer Fredette play live yet this year. I’m looking forward to that game actually.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/16/2010 - 8:35pm #459919
JNixonParticipantYES. I haven’t seen Jimmer Fredette play live yet this year. I’m looking forward to that game actually.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/16/2010 - 8:37pm #459904
llperezyeah, i havent seen byu yet this year but they handled arizona and arizona is a solid team. Jimmer is a lot of fun to watch.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/16/2010 - 8:37pm #459921
llperezyeah, i havent seen byu yet this year but they handled arizona and arizona is a solid team. Jimmer is a lot of fun to watch.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/16/2010 - 8:39pm #459906
JNixonParticipantYeah I saw the highlights against Arizona last weekend. He has their number. Last year he hung up 49 on them smh
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/16/2010 - 8:39pm #459923
JNixonParticipantYeah I saw the highlights against Arizona last weekend. He has their number. Last year he hung up 49 on them smh
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