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- Posted on: Tue, 12/29/2015 - 10:09pm #62316
SlickBouncePassParticipantGoing strictly off college and tape, how would the "potential stars" in these drafts be drafted in a combo draft.
1. Embiid – if Healthy, two way 7′ with flashes of brillaince. I think he gets taken #1 overall if healthy.
2. Simmons – 6’10” ballhandler with great athleticism and comparisons to Lebron. Potential is too much.
3. Wiggins – too much explosiveness, with comparisons to Lebron, still has less offensive skill than Simmons.
4. Karl Towns – big musclebound kid that could shoot from the outside and do it all as a bigman. Had some motivation issues and maybe some size issues, but I think he’d go after these other guys since the size and athleticism isn’t otherwordly like with the guys above.
5. Parker – did have some fitness questions, but skill-wise the kid could do everything on the court with solid size. I think he gets taken because he was that swingman potential 20 point scoring swingman.
6. Brandon Ingram – his length would put him ahead of Parker since he can do a lot of similar stuff, but his body is too skinny. I think teams would have gone Parker just because Parker seems to have more size and Ingram hasn’t set himself apart from Parker on the defensive side of the ball.
7. D’Angelo Russell – unfortunatley I gotta list him here because he was actually taken before Jahlil Okafor. Obviously I don’t think he would be taken before Okafor or Porzingis if redone. But he did have some sick passing and his shot was real nice. Defense was very suspect.
8. Jahlil Okafor – in retrospect would be taken higher, but have to put him behind Russell and the rest of these guys.
9. Porzingis – its a tossup here between him and Bender, but Bender is 3 years away. Has otherwordly size and skill but tehre were questions about his strength and the Darko Scare.
10. Bender – 3 years out, defintiely with otherwordly size and skill.
11. Jamal Murray – I actually think D’Angelo Russell would be drafted higher right now based off of what we’ve seen in college.
12. Gordon
13. Randle
The 5 years from now looking back rankings I think will go:
1. Karl Towns
2. Porzingis – freakish size and skill for modern NBA.
3. Embiid (would rank him 1 but health concerns and out of the game for so long)
4. Simmons
5. Ingram – shooting and length, depends on his body but I think it’ll develop.
6. Wiggins – nice shot but I don’t think his skill will get much better in time.
7. Okafor – defensive questions.
8. Bender (still don’t know enough about this guy), but could be another Porzingis type.
9. Jamal Murray – think he will be an impact guard
10. Julius Randle – nice athlete.
11. Jabari Parker – i don’t really get his game so far in the NBA.
12. D’Angelo Russell – great passer just his defense and athleticism are of big concern.
13. Aaron Gordon – just a role player
if you’re going to neg, be a good guy and propose your own and where you disagree. Please don’t neg for the topic, its a good timely topic comparing the guys from the last 2 drafts and this year based on waht we’ve seen so far from them in college.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 12/29/2015 - 10:34pm #1034540
LA12ParticipantIf you "had" to put Russel over Okafor because he was drafted before him, then why isn’t Wiggins ahead of Embiid?
0 - Posted on: Tue, 12/29/2015 - 10:34pm #1034402
LA12ParticipantIf you "had" to put Russel over Okafor because he was drafted before him, then why isn’t Wiggins ahead of Embiid?
0- Posted on: Wed, 12/30/2015 - 6:12am #1034574
SlickBouncePassParticipantto the injury. I still wanted to compare their promise based off what we saw in college. He’d go #1.
If you take his injury into account, well whats the point…what does that really tell you? But yeah he’d be taken after Parker and probably after Okafor you can’t pass up on sure things.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/30/2015 - 6:12am #1034436
SlickBouncePassParticipantto the injury. I still wanted to compare their promise based off what we saw in college. He’d go #1.
If you take his injury into account, well whats the point…what does that really tell you? But yeah he’d be taken after Parker and probably after Okafor you can’t pass up on sure things.
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- Posted on: Tue, 12/29/2015 - 11:12pm #1034547
Hype MachineI’ll go…
Simmons
Towns
Wiggins
Porzingis
Exum
Little bit too much Brandon Ingram love on this forum. Dante Exum is legit. I also believe Thon Maker is going to go ahead of Porzingis in 2017. Word on the street is that he’s been tearing it up this year.
Wiggins and Towns and Simmons could all be on the same team. And the Twolves would be the future champs.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 12/29/2015 - 11:12pm #1034409
Hype MachineI’ll go…
Simmons
Towns
Wiggins
Porzingis
Exum
Little bit too much Brandon Ingram love on this forum. Dante Exum is legit. I also believe Thon Maker is going to go ahead of Porzingis in 2017. Word on the street is that he’s been tearing it up this year.
Wiggins and Towns and Simmons could all be on the same team. And the Twolves would be the future champs.
0- Posted on: Wed, 12/30/2015 - 8:44am #1034613
chall23ParticipantI also think Exum will be a fine player, but what made you go this high on him? I’m a little weary after the ACL tear which I know you can come back to full strength from. I just think this was a huge developmental year for him. What type of player do you believe he will be?
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/30/2015 - 8:44am #1034475
chall23ParticipantI also think Exum will be a fine player, but what made you go this high on him? I’m a little weary after the ACL tear which I know you can come back to full strength from. I just think this was a huge developmental year for him. What type of player do you believe he will be?
0- Posted on: Wed, 12/30/2015 - 8:54am #1034615
BallerScriptParticipantWhat made him go so high on Exum is that he is Australian
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/30/2015 - 8:54am #1034477
BallerScriptParticipantWhat made him go so high on Exum is that he is Australian
0- Posted on: Wed, 12/30/2015 - 11:41am #1034628
Hype MachineThanks for answering on my behalf Mr Swaggimal.
I’m not afraid to be wrong, I just liked what I saw from my compatriot in his Rookie Season. Advanced Stats will back up the positive impact he had on the Jazz.
There isn’t really any other guards from those 3 classes that I could definitively say will be better than him.
As for what type of player he’ll be…..
I think he will be the best defender at the Point Guard position, and provide steady offense that relies on Ball Movement, Postups against smaller players, and low turnovers.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/30/2015 - 11:41am #1034491
Hype MachineThanks for answering on my behalf Mr Swaggimal.
I’m not afraid to be wrong, I just liked what I saw from my compatriot in his Rookie Season. Advanced Stats will back up the positive impact he had on the Jazz.
There isn’t really any other guards from those 3 classes that I could definitively say will be better than him.
As for what type of player he’ll be…..
I think he will be the best defender at the Point Guard position, and provide steady offense that relies on Ball Movement, Postups against smaller players, and low turnovers.
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- Posted on: Tue, 12/29/2015 - 11:33pm #1034548
TravelinTravParticipant1 KAT
2 KP
3 Wiggins
4 Simmons
5 Okafor
6 Jabari
I can’t count Embiid because he has never played a game.
I think KAT and KP have the most potential, after them it’s a toss up.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 12/29/2015 - 11:33pm #1034411
TravelinTravParticipant1 KAT
2 KP
3 Wiggins
4 Simmons
5 Okafor
6 Jabari
I can’t count Embiid because he has never played a game.
I think KAT and KP have the most potential, after them it’s a toss up.
0- Posted on: Wed, 12/30/2015 - 5:02am #1034572
CobraParticipantWhat you said: "I can’t count Embiid becuase he has never played a game."
What the OP said: "Going strictly off college and tape"
For me…
1. Embiid / 2. Towns / 3. Ingram / 4. Simmons / 5. Wiggins / 6. Russell / 7. Okafor / 8. Parker
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/30/2015 - 5:02am #1034434
CobraParticipantWhat you said: "I can’t count Embiid becuase he has never played a game."
What the OP said: "Going strictly off college and tape"
For me…
1. Embiid / 2. Towns / 3. Ingram / 4. Simmons / 5. Wiggins / 6. Russell / 7. Okafor / 8. Parker
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- Posted on: Wed, 12/30/2015 - 1:21am #1034556
123BballMasterParticipantYou all are sleeping on Andrew Wiggins. He’s averaging 20ppg as the number 1 option on his team in his 2nd year in the NBA, and he will only get better. He, along w/ Ingram, are the best 2way wing players in this "Draft". It’s scary how much better he’s gotten as the season goes along the past 3 years. In the beginning at Kansas, he struggled, at the end of the season he was having 35+ scoring nights. The beginning of his rookie season he also struggled, but as the season went along he got better and had a couple of games where he went toe-to-toe w/ Lebron. I’ll take Wiggins #1 and you guys can have whoever else.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/30/2015 - 1:21am #1034419
123BballMasterParticipantYou all are sleeping on Andrew Wiggins. He’s averaging 20ppg as the number 1 option on his team in his 2nd year in the NBA, and he will only get better. He, along w/ Ingram, are the best 2way wing players in this "Draft". It’s scary how much better he’s gotten as the season goes along the past 3 years. In the beginning at Kansas, he struggled, at the end of the season he was having 35+ scoring nights. The beginning of his rookie season he also struggled, but as the season went along he got better and had a couple of games where he went toe-to-toe w/ Lebron. I’ll take Wiggins #1 and you guys can have whoever else.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/30/2015 - 4:50am #1034566
NBAjunkie81Participantbut I don’t believe any of them will be over the top Super Stars at the Level of a Kobe or a Jordan or a Lebron or a Shaq…..
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/30/2015 - 4:50am #1034429
NBAjunkie81Participantbut I don’t believe any of them will be over the top Super Stars at the Level of a Kobe or a Jordan or a Lebron or a Shaq…..
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/30/2015 - 7:26am #1034594
TRC1991ParticipantOkafor behind Russell again!? Haven’t you learned!?
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/30/2015 - 7:26am #1034456
TRC1991ParticipantOkafor behind Russell again!? Haven’t you learned!?
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/30/2015 - 8:19am #1034602
Snatalini247ParticipantThis is what I saw though, I’m not expert we’ll just have to see how it all turns out.
1. Wiggins
2. Embiid
3. Parker
4. Simmons
5. Exum
6. KAT
7. Okafor
8. Porzingis
9. Randle
10. Brandon Ingram
Everyone believed 2014 was a stronger draft than anything before for a while and up coming after that yet somehow was once 2015 rolled around we all had amnesia and thought KAT and Okafor were better prospects than Embiid and I’m sure something like that will happen in 2016, regardless thats why I have so many 2014 players high on my list.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/30/2015 - 8:19am #1034464
Snatalini247ParticipantThis is what I saw though, I’m not expert we’ll just have to see how it all turns out.
1. Wiggins
2. Embiid
3. Parker
4. Simmons
5. Exum
6. KAT
7. Okafor
8. Porzingis
9. Randle
10. Brandon Ingram
Everyone believed 2014 was a stronger draft than anything before for a while and up coming after that yet somehow was once 2015 rolled around we all had amnesia and thought KAT and Okafor were better prospects than Embiid and I’m sure something like that will happen in 2016, regardless thats why I have so many 2014 players high on my list.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/30/2015 - 8:21am #1034604
Snatalini247ParticipantI wouldnt mind seeing a list like this from basically maybe the 03′ draft or 07′ on to now might be pretty interesting just prospect wise. See where guys like Chris Paul and Derrick Rose would fall in the bracket of prospects over the last 15 or so years
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/30/2015 - 8:21am #1034466
Snatalini247ParticipantI wouldnt mind seeing a list like this from basically maybe the 03′ draft or 07′ on to now might be pretty interesting just prospect wise. See where guys like Chris Paul and Derrick Rose would fall in the bracket of prospects over the last 15 or so years
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0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/30/2015 - 12:25pm #1034501
bdiddy5115ParticipantIt’s funny how few people can separate NBA success and Pre-Draft Evaluations. Revisionist history is useless.
Porzingis, even if you were high on him before the Draft, wouldn’t be in the top group of the 3 Drafts combined — as a prospect. There were too many doubts (most of which have been silenced since), at the time. NY taking him was a risk, even if his upside was obvious.
Embiid was the top prospect if you take out injuries, but the fact is that injuries did hurt his stock, as it was the primary reason he fell to #3 that year.
Towns was pretty unspectacular compared to some top picks, but he checked more boxes than nearly any 19 year old prospect did, and that pushes him near the top, even if he wasn’t a standout athlete/specimen.
So simply as Prospects:
1. ’14 Embiid (the injuries make this very close)
2. ’15 Towns
3. ’16 Simmons
4. ’14 Parker
5. ’14 Wiggins
0 - Posted on: Wed, 12/30/2015 - 12:25pm #1034638
bdiddy5115ParticipantIt’s funny how few people can separate NBA success and Pre-Draft Evaluations. Revisionist history is useless.
Porzingis, even if you were high on him before the Draft, wouldn’t be in the top group of the 3 Drafts combined — as a prospect. There were too many doubts (most of which have been silenced since), at the time. NY taking him was a risk, even if his upside was obvious.
Embiid was the top prospect if you take out injuries, but the fact is that injuries did hurt his stock, as it was the primary reason he fell to #3 that year.
Towns was pretty unspectacular compared to some top picks, but he checked more boxes than nearly any 19 year old prospect did, and that pushes him near the top, even if he wasn’t a standout athlete/specimen.
So simply as Prospects:
1. ’14 Embiid (the injuries make this very close)
2. ’15 Towns
3. ’16 Simmons
4. ’14 Parker
5. ’14 Wiggins
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/31/2015 - 10:36am #1034603
BiggaveliiiParticipantIts either Wiggins or Towns right now if i had the top pick. Wiggins has shown he can play with the best, and Towns i see a similar growth in comparison to Anthony Davis. Timberwolvess fans rejoicee. Porzingis has the skills, and Simmons also has the talent as an overall player to be great, but i truly believe based on talent and potential Wiggins would be my number 1, If he was on the knicks or Lakers i guarantee he would have way more recognition just like Porzingis and Russell have had. So my projection would be.
1. Wiggins
2. Towns
3. Simmons
4. Embiid
5. Parker
6. Porzingis
7. Okafor
8. Ingram
9. Russell
10. Randle
0 - Posted on: Thu, 12/31/2015 - 10:36am #1034740
BiggaveliiiParticipantIts either Wiggins or Towns right now if i had the top pick. Wiggins has shown he can play with the best, and Towns i see a similar growth in comparison to Anthony Davis. Timberwolvess fans rejoicee. Porzingis has the skills, and Simmons also has the talent as an overall player to be great, but i truly believe based on talent and potential Wiggins would be my number 1, If he was on the knicks or Lakers i guarantee he would have way more recognition just like Porzingis and Russell have had. So my projection would be.
1. Wiggins
2. Towns
3. Simmons
4. Embiid
5. Parker
6. Porzingis
7. Okafor
8. Ingram
9. Russell
10. Randle
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