Draft Day: Draft Buzz
Three Team Trade Shaking Up Lottery
The Kings, Bucks and Bobcats completed a 3 team deal according to multiple reports.
Sacramento has moved back from 7 to 10 and are targeting Jimmer Fredette. (The Kings also receive John Salmons).
Charlotte received Corey Maggette and the 7th pick and now has the 7th and 9th picks and are likely targeting Tristan Thompson. They are also high on Bismack Biyombo who might go to Detroit at 8.
Milwaukee receive Stephen Jackson, Shawn Livingston, Beno Udrih and picked up the 19th pick where they could target wither Marshon Brooks or Donatas Motiejunas.
Utah Targeting Derrick Williams in 3 Team Deal
We're hearing that there is a 3 team deal in the works between Utah, Washington and Minnesota.
The deal would send the 6th pick and players (and/or cap relief) to Minnesota.
Utah would get the 2nd pick and is targeting Derrick Williams.
Washington would get the 3rd pick and is targeting Enes Kanter.
And Minnesota would move back and dump salary or add veterans such as Paul Millsap.
Minnesota might not be done at that as there is speculation that they would trade 6 to either move down again or add more established veterans.
The deal would likley involve established players. Some names that have been mentioned: Jonny Flynn and Devin Harris.
Bismack Biyombo Back/Knee/Buyout Concerns?
I got word from a GM last night that there are some concerns over Bismack Biyombo's medical reports. He supposedly has a herniated disk which could cause some teams to pause.
Despite that, teams in the lottery don't seem to be too concerned as he has been extremely impressive working out.
Biyombo had a very impressive workout yesterday with Charlotte, who could take him at 9.
There is some thought that he could go as high as 5 to Toronto as he would be the perfect complement to skilled bigman Andrea Bargnani and fit into their international gameplan. Biyombo could also go 8 to Detroit or 11 to Golden State.
Biyombo was a late invite to the green room and cancelled a workout with the Knicks today adding speculation that he will be a likely lottery pick.
Biyombo also has some issues related to a knee surgery he had, according to Marc Spears of Yahoo. He's also got a buyout situation, though that's not considered to be as big of an issue as Jonas Valanciunas'.
Cavs Like Tristan, Will Take Jonas
The Cavs apparently have Tristan Thompson high on their board after watching him work out impressively against Enes Kanter and inviting him back for a second workout. But look for them to end up taking Jonas Valanciunas at 4.
Toronto Should Consider Tristan Thompson at 5
Thompson has not gotten much traction at 5 to Toronto and that's likely due to the fact that the team added a similar player in last year's draft with Ed Davis.
But when you consider that basically every American player they've drafted that has become a star (Damon Stoudemire, Vince Carter, Tracy McGrady, Chris Bosh) has eventually left, taking a Toronto kid like Tristan makes a lot of sense long term.
They could deal Ed Davis as he's got a lot of trade value and hope that Tristan can be as good or better.
Then again, it's difficult to know if GM Bryan Colangelo can afford to think so long term.
Spurs Promise to Davis Bertans?
There's been a lot of speculation that Latvian sharpshooter Davis Bertans has a promise at the end of the first round. We're hearing that San Antonio could be the team.
The Spurs have long had success drafting European players and stashing them in Europe and Bertans appears to be a perfect option to do that with.
Despite not playing much this season, he could be the top shooter in the entire draft and develop into something along the lines of a Peja Stojakovic over time.
Iman Shumpert to Phoneix at 13?
We're hearing that Georgia Tech junior combo guard Iman Shumpert could possibly land in the late lottery.
He's a player that we don't project as highly, but NBA team sources insist that he's likely a top 20 pick and could go as high as 13 to the Suns.
A team like Phoenix looking for athleticism and defense could be targeting him. If Jimmer Fredette is gone as expected, would they actually take Shumpert over Kemba Walker? It's possible.
Minny should try and get Mcgee and Young from Wiz instead of Millsap.
I don't get why Tristan Thompson is getting so much buzz. I think we all saw Texas play enough this year to know he is not a top 5 talent, even in this weak draft.
If any of this happens the Raptors are laughing as Brandin Knight falls to 5. I wonder who will go at #6 now? I doubt the T-wolves would have much use for Jan Vesely. That trade will shatter everyone's mock drafts as teams see guys go in front of them that they never thought would previously.
To be honest, I think Thompson will be a bust. He is just so raw and really doesn't have any post skills or a jumpshot. He may be a good rebounder and shotblocker, but I definitely think he isn't worthy of a top 5 pick. I would rather have Markieff Morris or Biyombo if I'm Detroit and I would definitely take Valnciunas if I'm Cleveland.
I like the idea of getting Young from Wash but I don't see them giving up McGee. Milsap is another PF in an already crowded group, unless they are planning on trading him it wouldn't make any sense.
Trade Davis for a pick in the 10-15 region and maybe get Bismack or if there lucky get Kemba who might fall in the draft
It seems like they are in a no win situation here. No matter what they do they just get more help and the same positions they are already deep in. Derrick Williams doesn't work because they already have Beasley. A trade for Millsap doesn't work because that would mean pushing Love to centre which is not what they want. Who would have ever thought that getting the second overall pick in the NBA draft would lead to such headaches. If only there were a SG anywhere near the top of the draft board.
Why would Wash do that? Wall+McGee+Kanter is a pretty good team
I have Tristan going to the Warriors at 11. If you are projecting him as your first or second option then you are in trouble. But on the Warriors you have Ellis and Curry as prime scoring threats, Wright can shoot, and David Lee is a great primary rebounder. Thompson will help fill out the front court along with Udoh (who looks like a perfect backup defensive big man).
I think Tristan Thompson fits in great as a good inside scorer, a third option on offense, and the Warriors' second rebounder.
Enes Kanter has more polish and more upside, Vesely in an elite athlete with a very high ceiling, and Biyombo also has a high ceiling. I would put Tristan behind those guys and somewhat ahead of the Morris twins due to him having slightly more upside. The Morris twins and Singleton could also be the option at 11.
I love that 3 team deal for Utah. I've always secretly wanted the next Dwill to come to Utah. Now I won't have to sell my Deron Williams jersey. Now all Derrick Williams needs to do is change his jersey # from 23 to 8. But even if he doesn't it won't matter. At least the last name is the same. (And so is the firsy initial, coincidence, I think not.)
i really dont understand why Minny doesnt just take the best player in the draft...
but of course id love to see DC end up with Kanter, a true big man who will bang with the best of em!
The 3 team deal doesn't sound bad but I have questions about it though. Derrick Williams would give the Jazz some athleticism and scoring. If Devin Harris is in the deal who would be their starting point guard ? The Wizards taking Enes Kanter at 3? What has Enes Kanter really proven to be the number 3 pick? Was it the 34 points he scored in the all star game ? In an all star game there;s usually no defense played. The Wizards are the ones that need a player like a Paul Millsap and get rid of Andre Blatche.
Chill_dude, the Jazz could use thier 12th pick as a way to replace the veteran they lose. If its Devin Harris, then Kemba Walker or Jimmer Fredette is a possibility. If its Millsap, than Tristan Thompson or Marcus Morris is a possibility.
Minnesota has to trade the number 2 pick so this trade makes major sense for them, think about it, its a relatively weak draft and the top 2 prospects are replicas of players Minnys already has stockpiled (kahn cant draft derrick williams unless he has another trade in place to dump b-easy or AR-15 and that seems unlikely and he cant draft Kyrie if he somehow slips to number 2 because the media will kill him for drafting another pg). Washington badly wants Kanter from what I understand and Kanter really wants to play in Washington, I dont know how him and McGee would fit playing together but its an intrigueing frontcourt combo. Utah being a partipicant in this trade kinda suprised me because I didn't know that they were targeted Derrick Williams and I think him and Big Al in the same frontcourt might challenge to be one of the worst defensive frontcourts in the league, but lets see how it plays out.
@MemphisMadness I think its very unlikely the dubs draft tristan at 11, they have gone down the route of drafting super athletic 4's with limited offensive games and defensive awareness before and it didn't work out (brandon wright and anthony randolph) and both those guys were superior players to tristan.
@Chill_Dude03 your right the Wizards really want/need a player like Paul Milsap, but they drafted their version last year in Trevor Booker and BTW no one wants Andray Blatche and his terrible ass attitude, contract and even worse defense. He is the least interested in playing defense outta anyone in the entire league.
D-Will is the same type of high motor tweener that Milsap is.Almost exact in measurements,rebs and scoring.Milsap has no plays run for him and still gets 16/8 per game.plus he's always the one trying to cover for big Al's lack of defense . So why make the trade,just draft Kanter to plug the hole.
Milsap is listed @ 6'7", but he's really 6'6"ish (in shoes). DWill is 6'9" in shoes. That's a huge difference. Plus, DWill is long -- his standing reach is 2" higher than Blake Griffin's. It's clear DWill has a much better shot @ being a legit NBA PF than Milsap ever had.
That said, if the Jazz saw DWill as a PF, they wouldn't draft him. They are stocked @ PF. Favors will likely be an elite 4 w/in 2 years & Jefferson mixes between 4 & 5. The Jazz must consider DWill to be a legitimate 3 (or easily converted to a 3) or they wouldn't work so hard to get him.
Shoot, all these rumors do is make me doubt my mock. Smh. Oh well, I'll just roll wit w/e and see whatever and see what happens...
Nice to see Davis Bertans get a promise....I have a feeling he will be one of the best shooters in the league a few years down the road. Whoever gets him at the end of the 1st round is getting steal. He has good size, lenghth, and athleticism, a decent ball handler with room to grow and is an outstanding three point shooter. To me he's the best pure shooter in the draft and seems to be underrated and for the most part unknown going into the draft.
Also, where is Biyombo going? Now I've heard anywhere from 5-20. Right now I have him 14th but I'm getting a feeling some team may snag him earlier. He's gonna jack my mock up I can sense it.
"But when you consider that basically every American player they've drafted that has become a star (Damon Stoudemire, Vince Carter, Tracy McGrady, Chris Bosh) has eventually left, taking a Toronto kid like Tristan makes a lot of sense long term."
Cmon Aran, that's the most ridiculous reasoning for a team drafting a guy I've ever heard. Wow. I hope you're joking.
If Suns want Shumpert that bad I'm sure they can trade for another pick and get in in the 20 range. With the recent trade, someone is going to be slipping, and they might want to take BPA at 13 and look to trade into the 20s.